And of course this is coming from a serial draft dodger.

the last refuge of a scoundrel.

-- Samuel Johnson

repubs can't debate issues (at least without lying through their ass) so the old fallback is always "we're the patriotic party".

Berthe: "Sometimes I think men raise flags when they can't get anything else up."

Too true in the case of the Pukes.

by kneeling during the national anthem should ask themselves exactly what kind of protest they would find acceptable. Please tell us what would be OK with you.

And take a pic and tweet it to the piece of shit.

...in my living room during the anthem. Couldn't take a pic, tho.

TRUMP has no standing to criticize anyone's patriotism. He literally doesn't know what the word means.

has a lot of nerve calling for patriotism when he shames our country through his talk and actions every single day.

I will only watch the national anthem and I will kneel just because Colonel Wilhelm von Bonespurs has stuck his nose in again

And I bet we'll see a few resistors tweeting pics from one knee

That and the Marseillaise are contenders for great anthems.

If that’s where he ends up he should.
Oh, who am I kidding? He will care as much for that as he cares for ours.

Fuck him.

Welcome to DU!

Fuck off.

Respect the Constitution!

The National Anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance are subservient to our Constitution. They both articulate respect for our Republic. When have you done the same?

By your actions, behavior and words, it is clear that you have no respect for our founding documents or our history, so fuck off! Don't you dare challenge our patriotism.

You are a coward.

You are an idiot.

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as per Martha Radisch this morning on George Stephanopoulis...

so I'm neither standing not watching...

editing in the transcript ...

STEPHANOPOULOS: And that brings up something that John McCain -- John McCain also responded to this. I want to show that to everybody right now. He said the latest attacks on the FBI and the Department of Justice serve no American interest, no parties, no presidents, only Putin's. Our nation's elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the warped lens of politics and manufacturing bipartisan sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin's job for him.

When you think about the investment that Vladimir Putin made in interfering in our elections, it is paying off every day in spades.

RADDATZ: He won the Super Bowl, he really -- Putin has won the Super Bowl here, exactly what he wanted to happen in this country -- this discord, this mistrust of institutions, is exactly why they operate this way.

Sure as heck wasn't Trump.

Miller, maybe?

the way paul ryan and mcconnell do.

I have no respect for trump. I don't believe a thing he says. He lies all the time. He uses his con job by bringing up divisive issues to whip up the country. Unbelievable times.

what a hyped up multimedia bazzilion dollar sporting event has
to do with the military or patriotism? Just doesn't connect for me...

a fucking GAME

Superbowl is just the same as bombing North Korea to DT

From watching a bunch of people gathered for a game singing to a flag. I'm not that flag. My 20 years of service are not represented by that Chinese made, piece of material that undercut American made products, or by people getting excited over football.

The person who has the courage of their convictions and remembers
their lost friends, family and citizens by kneeling when a fat, too scared to join the military, illegitimate president threatens them for it. Now that is a something that represents me. That is a person I'm proud of.

To DROP DEAD.

and half the damn bar jumped up put their hand over their hearts, I just sat in my seat and sang along with Pink. I know, the American Legion.......and, never doing that again.

and the horse he rode in on...

I just ask them where that is in The Constitution. It's funny, not it is not funny how many Americans don't know what is in The Constitution.

The man who has conspired with a foreign hostile entity to subvert our democracy has no right to say anything to us about standing or not standing for the national anthem.

But I really am considering avoiding them completely. Not because of protesting players, but because I'm getting sick of the 30 minute police and military worship services before the game. Also tired of being told to stand for God Bless America during the seventh inning stretch. And in progressive San Francisco, of all places.

We put you on the watch list...

he can go FUCK HIMSELF

racial inequality .
Protesting for equality is being against the military that's a creepy dystopian thinking

Members of the armed forces swear or affirm to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. That Constitution affirms the right of all citizens "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances". Any member of the armed forces who takes their oath seriously will have no problem with anyone "taking a knee" or any other form of peaceful protest.

Moron, coward that he is, is just hiding behind the troops and he violates his oath every day.

They are standing because of Trump's stable ingenious leadership.

Pretty obvious this is all about Trump trying to puff himself up. It will be the largest group of people standing for the anthem EVER (because of Trump) and he will tweet about it and it will be the latest stupid distraction.

I wonder who the freak will pick on for that.

It's coming. Thousands of videos from Trump's supporters. You know it.

not standing for the anthem. More people than you think don't get into Nuremberg rally stuff.

Kneeling for the anthem is one of the most passive forms of protest possible. This is pathetic.

hysterical coming from the Draft Dodger-in-Chief who doesn't even know the words to our own National Anthem! During his last appearance at a major sporting event (College National Championship game), I think the cameras caught him mouthing the words to what possibly could have been the National Anthem of Russian Federation. Just saying....

I will not stand, period. Then again, I've not watched a super bowl since Broncos / Redskins in '87 and don't plan to break my streak. Sorry, just don't care.

fuck him

arranging my sweet spot to watch the game, or getting a brewski. I suppose I may be standing for it at least.

Would if I was there ...

Couldn't really do it at your seat or the stairs so you'd need a flat aisle/walkway area.

A film where good people facing long odds stand up to fascists.

If they play "God Save the King", I'll consider standing.

up your fat orange rump, dotart.

he crawls his fat ass out the bed. stand and with his hand over his heart every time the National Anthem plays on TV????????

just ordinary stand and cross your heart flag folks, here are the facts about the US flag and the Star Spangled Banner.

On June 14, 1777, the Continental Congress passed an act establishing an official flag for the new nation. The resolution stated: “Resolved, that the flag of the United States be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation." On Aug. 3, 1949, President Harry S. Truman officially declared June 14 as Flag Day.

. . . .
Between 1777 and 1960 Congress passed several acts that changed the shape, design and arrangement of the flag and allowed stars and stripes to be added to reflect the admission of each new state.

. . . .

After a British bombardment, amateur poet Francis Scott Key was so inspired by the sight of the American flag still flying over Baltimore's Fort McHenry that he wrote "The Star-Spangled Banner" on Sept. 14, 1814. It officially became our national anthem in 1931.

http://www.pbs.org/a-capitol-fourth/history/old-glory/

Think of it. We managed as a country without an anthem until 1931.

And our flag has evolved as have we over time.

I remember when Alaska and Hawaii became states in 1959.

https://www.google.com/search?q=When+did+alaska+become+a+state&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&ei=84x3Wq3DN4qH0wLnxavIBg&q=when+did+hawaii+become+a+state&oq=When+did+hawaii+become+a+state&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l2j0i20i263k1j0l3j0i7i10i30k1l2j0l2.49557.50935.0.53270.6.6.0.0.0.0.123.609.2j4.6.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.6.608...0i7i30k1j0i13k1j0i13i30k1j0i10k1.0.QMX2s_Igc2Y

I was in high school at the time.

America is always changing. Our flag has changed. Our anthem has changed.

As for the pledge of allegiance?

The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an expression of allegiance to the Flag of the United States and the republic of the United States of America, originally composed by Rear Admiral George Balch in 1887, later revised by Francis Bellamy in 1892 and formally adopted by Congress as the pledge in 1942.

when did the us adopt the pledge of allegiance

The phrase "under God" was added on June 14, 1954 during the Eisenhower era. I remember that well because we always said the pledge before starting our school day and one day we came in and were told we had to add words.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-man-who-wrote-the-pledge-of-allegiance-93907224/

The flag, the pledge and the national anthem were written by human beings. They were not given to us directly by God. We honor them, but we govern ourselves. We are not governed by these symbols of our nation. We govern them and ourselves.

or wherever they watch the game on TV?

Because I think that would be a new tradition.

Usually people only stand or put their hand over their heart if they are in a public place. Or am I wrong?

And isn't it a personal choice? It isn't required by law, is it? Because if it is, what do people do when they are driving and the anthem is played on the radio?

I would usually stand for the national anthem, but I will not stand when the president or any of his cult members demand I do so. It's missing the point of our freedoms that we supposedly stand for.

To tell us what to do. Piece of fucking shit.

Trump FORGETS TO SALUTE THE FLAG During Easter National Anthem

Wife has to remind him

The thing in the Whitehouse wants more attention. As always.

I usually mute the tv when the NFL puts on the national anthem because it's almost always some celeb milking the spotlight and mangling the song. Crowd can't even follow along, it's so distorted. It's become as much marketing as the barrage of ads in every game.

It's rare -- and almost always a college game -- when a military choir or band performs the anthem. They do it right.

In any case, standing for the anthem doesn't honor veterans nearly as much as providing them with health care and a home.

of the military? Or have the RW
zealots completely substituted the military for what was once the democracy known as the USA?

Non-citizens do not have to honor the flag.

Melania not salute flag

You despicable orange piece of shit.

has spoken ....

With a chain-saw.

Eff you, donnyfascist.

Forced patriotic displays are meaningless.

when the military became the owner of the flag and the anthem. Every time someone fails to be properly reverential of either, the first reaction is, But the military...

kneeled during the national anthem?

when he's sitting on it.

The two veterans in my family are sick and tired of being used as political pawns. They also disagree with him.

And patriotism.

I don't have to stand for the National Anthem or the Pledge of Allegiance if I don't want to. And I served in the Army for 38 years, 21 of those on Active Duty and yes in a Combat Zone. So Trump, go pound sand. I will stand or sit, my choice.