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highplainsdem

(49,051 posts)
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:33 PM Feb 2018

Theresa May responds to Trump's NHS attack: 'I'm proud of free health service'

Source: Independent

Theresa May has defended the NHS against Donald Trump’s attack that it is “broke and not working”, in the latest spat between the two leaders.

The Prime Minister’s spokesman pointed put that the NHS was recently named as the best, safest and most affordable system in the world for a second time by an influential US-based think tank.

Earlier in the day Health Secretary also rebuffed billionaire Mr Trump’s claims saying that the UK’s was a system in which people can receive care “no matter the size of their bank balance”.

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Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-nhs-claims-theresa-amy-jeremy-hunt-twitter-uk-healthcare-broke-president-universal-healthcare-a8195556.html



Trump's stupid tweet:


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Theresa May responds to Trump's NHS attack: 'I'm proud of free health service' (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2018 OP
Dolt 45 will never get to ride in the Queen's gilded carriage at the rate he's going. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #1
Kick dalton99a Feb 2018 #2
Truth to ignorance. ffr Feb 2018 #3
He's just playing to his base Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 #22
Yes, This Will Become Truth RobinA Feb 2018 #25
Trump does not know what he is talking about. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #4
Thanks for sharing your important insight Sophia ! Where Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2018 #13
England, France, Germany and Austria Sophia4 Feb 2018 #24
Bloomberg: Trump Rebuked Over Tweet on U.K. Health System highplainsdem Feb 2018 #5
Trump is too stupid to know that he is stupid..!!! Stuart G Feb 2018 #6
He doesn't know what he doesn't know. Most dangerous Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2018 #14
can el bloato EVER open his mouth, or use his fingers, without lying? niyad Feb 2018 #7
he did in the Access Hollywood trailer Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2018 #15
yes, of course. you are absolutely correct!! niyad Feb 2018 #17
Orange Hitler Is Dumber Than A Mud Fence colsohlibgal Feb 2018 #8
He's a freak...A freak of nature.... Upthevibe Feb 2018 #9
Man, I hope North Texas turns blue. Dave Starsky Feb 2018 #26
The only way we get a FDR and willing Congress is to have another big crash apnu Feb 2018 #11
Leave it to Dotard to alienate us from the CONSERVATIVE led UK. apnu Feb 2018 #10
31% of Americans are on single payer. Cold War Spook Feb 2018 #12
This is good jayschool2013 Feb 2018 #16
How the hell would xxqqqzme Feb 2018 #18
And this is a CONSERVATIVE politician LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #19
The dipshit doesn't realize even he's better off as a result of the UK's system. Vinca Feb 2018 #20
Good for her. whathehell Feb 2018 #21
I WISH THE USA HAD THE UK'S MEDICAL INSURANCE SYSTEM !!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2018 #23
Give me a break MountCleaners Feb 2018 #27
Keep it up, trump.. your fucking petard Cha Feb 2018 #28

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
25. Yes, This Will Become Truth
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:55 PM
Feb 2018

even if it is totally bull because it fits the righty worldview. I had a a person of the diehard right tell me a couple years ago that in Europe the government looks at everybody’s mail. I asked where this information came from and the response was basically that it was a known fact.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
4. Trump does not know what he is talking about.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 12:43 PM
Feb 2018

I do. I lived in 4 European countries and had great health care for difficult situations in every one of them.

Do you suppose Trump might be talking off the top of his head without knowing what he is talking about? Do you think he would stoop so low as to do that?

Anyway. I know what I am talking about because I lived it. And single payer is not necessarily just a government-run system. But it is a system in which those who care for you are paid well, but the profit-taking is reasonable.

Please see the film “Drug Short,” one of the best episodes in Dirty Money by Netflix which demonstrates the potential (not the definite unfairness) for overcharging for drugs in our system.

And single payer, universal healthcare is not necessarily just run by the government. And in our system, we have had county hospitals and charitable hospitals, but our healthcare system is poorly organized for all too many people even now and it was worse before Obamacare.

Our life expectancy is relatively low. That tells the whole story about our healthcare compared to countries that have single payer. Single payer refers to the fact that everyone pays into the insurance funding usually a percentage of your pay or your receipts, and everyone is covered equally. In some countries the government covers and organizes, administers the healthcare, and in some countries the money that is collected is paid to private non-profits. There are different ways of organizing the delivery of single payer healthcare. I am strongly for it because I lived in countries that have it, and I liked it.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
24. England, France, Germany and Austria
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 04:41 PM
Feb 2018

I liked France the best but it may have been because I had a terrible medical problem while I was there.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. Most dangerous
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:47 PM
Feb 2018

type of personality when their decisions and output matter to people's lives. Or even in business - working with someone like that now. It's a strange personality phenomenon - not sure if there is a name for it.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
8. Orange Hitler Is Dumber Than A Mud Fence
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:37 PM
Feb 2018

And our health care system is just wrong. Profit motive has no place in health care....or education as well.

We are need another FDR and a Congress he/she can work with....pronto.

No slam dunk we wrest control from the evil Plutocrats and war Mongers and that’s new in the lifetime of we Boomers.

Upthevibe

(8,084 posts)
9. He's a freak...A freak of nature....
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:00 PM
Feb 2018

I'm in Dallas working on a project for a friend, and this morning we called Cruz and Cornyn today to tell them we support moving forward with the Mueller Investigation.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
26. Man, I hope North Texas turns blue.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:36 PM
Feb 2018

I hope the whole state turns blue soon. It's on it's way, very quickly.

Much of my family is from Texas, from Littlefield to Houston, Dallas to Corpus. They are all Dems. They have been voting Democratic their whole lives, based on their Christian values. It would be nice if things started going their way.

apnu

(8,759 posts)
11. The only way we get a FDR and willing Congress is to have another big crash
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:12 PM
Feb 2018

America has never done anything forward thinking unless its a time of crisis.

Prior to FDR, the Republicans burned down the economy, and it took the Great Crash and a few years before the American people would elect FDR.

Its the nature of our people to sit on our hands until everything blows up in our faces. I don't see America taking a chance on an FDR-esque person until that happens.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
12. 31% of Americans are on single payer.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:20 PM
Feb 2018

I have VA and my wife has Medicare and CHAMPVA. The only thing we pay for are her glasses, the exam is free because a problem she has with her eyes. I have been on VA healthcare since 1995 and it is better than anything else I have had even in the old days when workers got it free and the family plan cost $25. Yes, I am that old. The only way it will happen is if the Democrats ruled the presidency and both houses of Congress.

jayschool2013

(2,314 posts)
16. This is good
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:48 PM
Feb 2018

These ridiculous Fox News talking points have been the right's contribution to public discourse here in the U.S. for the past 25 years or more, maybe pre-dating Fox News back to Reagan's blithe dismissal of governmental functions as "government IS the problem."

Now that we have an idiot who's willing to say (tweet) this bullshit to the world, the more the world can see what we've been dealing with and denounce the talking points as sheer idiocy.

But then again, sheer idiots probably won't listen.

C'mon, Mr. Mueller.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
18. How the hell would
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:53 PM
Feb 2018

he know. His healthcare - currently - is FREE.

Did he pay for his extensive (but deeply flawed as reported) physical? NO

King con receiving socialist medical care!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
19. And this is a CONSERVATIVE politician
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:01 PM
Feb 2018

Because conservatives, real conservatives, look at that bottom line. They are SUPPOSED to be the kind of party, like traditional Republicans, that are concerned with paying the least in taxes to get the most bang for the buck. Any form of single payer, taxpayer funded, backed up by a national health care law including a minimum guarantee, whether distributed by all public or a public/private partnership, will cost half as much, at least, as the current US system.

But the neo-Republican is not a conservative. They are reduced to empty shills for whomever will feed them from the trough and fund their campaigns, and keep them in power. Plus passing whatever laws will gain their businesses and their donors businesses greater profits, whether that is cutting environmental standards, taking park lands, cutting taxes for themselves and their peers and recovering the money from programs and services for the 99%, etc...

I still think Democrats should be pounding out more all the advantages from a conservative point of view to counter the "they only want free stuff" meme. Another conservative angle is that when bidding on international jobs, which is more and more common with globalization, other countries, with a single payer system, are at an advantage because they do not have to include the companies employee healthcare insurance costs, or if there is, it is only an add-on. Most of the healthcare costs are born by the workers through their taxes.

Vinca

(50,319 posts)
20. The dipshit doesn't realize even he's better off as a result of the UK's system.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:08 PM
Feb 2018

He doesn't have to provide healthcare benefits to his golf course employees.

trueblue2007

(17,243 posts)
23. I WISH THE USA HAD THE UK'S MEDICAL INSURANCE SYSTEM !!!!
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:33 PM
Feb 2018

I WISH THE USA HAD THE UK'S MEDICAL INSURANCE SYSTEM !!!! we have people DYING cuz they don't have health insurance and can't go to a doctor.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
27. Give me a break
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 05:49 PM
Feb 2018

Every time I talk to people in the UK, they are horrified by our system. Of course people criticize national health care plans - that doesn't mean that they want to be like the US.

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