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pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 11:29 PM Feb 2018

ICE wants to be an intelligence agency under Trump

Source: Daily Beast

Immigration enforcers have tried for years to get access to spy agency secrets. Civil libertarians call the prospect “frankly terrifying”—and a lot more realistic under Trump.

Betsy Woodruff
BETSY WOODRUFF

Officials at Immigration and Customs Enforcement are actively exploring joining the U.S. Intelligence Community, The Daily Beast has learned.

The effort is helmed by a small cohort of career Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials, and has been underway since the Obama administration, according to an ICE official familiar with the matter.

Internal advocates for joining the America’s spy agencies—known as the Intelligence Community or the IC—focus on the potential benefits to the agency’s work on counterproliferation, money laundering, counterterror, and cybercrime. The official added that joining the IC could also be useful for the agency’s immigration enforcement work––in particular, their efforts to find and arrest undocumented immigrants with criminal arrest warrants (known in ICE as fugitive aliens).

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-wants-to-be-an-intelligence-agency-under-trump?source=twitter&via=desktop

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ICE wants to be an intelligence agency under Trump (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2018 OP
That would be a huge mistake... dchill Feb 2018 #1
It's not a mistake Perseus Feb 2018 #8
Sure, if you have a law against the CIA spying on the citizenry... Thomas Hurt Feb 2018 #2
Based on my personal interactions with this agency in holding them accountible... Anon-C Feb 2018 #3
They don't need spies Roy Rolling Feb 2018 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author ResIpsa Feb 2018 #5
GOP hates big government is just rhetoric Perseus Feb 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author ResIpsa Feb 2018 #12
We all know SCVDem Feb 2018 #6
SS in training Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #7
In the style of the Gestapo or SS IronLionZion Feb 2018 #10
NO NO NO! riversedge Feb 2018 #11
What could POSSIBLY go wrong? BadGimp Feb 2018 #13
I know. It's a scary idea. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #14
a really really really scary idea for sure!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #15
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. It's not a mistake
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:11 AM
Feb 2018

This is what dictatorships do, they slowly start building their own "security" and "intelligence" apparatus which are loyal to no one but the "leader", then they start taking money away from those organizations that are loyal to the citizenry, they deteriorate the services that have been in place for many years, such as the FBI, CIA, even police departments, they corrupt the military, the judicial system, and everything that keeps a democracy healthy, they make the system sick, create total chaos.

Muller better hurry because these evil bastards move very fast, they are not stupid as many people tend to think, they are just evil.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. Sure, if you have a law against the CIA spying on the citizenry...
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:16 AM
Feb 2018

and the FBI and DOJ is giving you push back...........get ICE to do it.

Welcome to the the modern day US version of the Geheime Staatspolizei.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
3. Based on my personal interactions with this agency in holding them accountible...
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 12:17 AM
Feb 2018

...for the indiscretions of their agents, absolutely not! ICE would thankfully not be as disciplined as the Schutzstaffel, but then again the SS never had the internet.

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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. GOP hates big government is just rhetoric
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:14 AM
Feb 2018

All republican presidencies have increased the size of government, they are big in cronyism.

Response to Perseus (Reply #9)

IronLionZion

(45,550 posts)
10. In the style of the Gestapo or SS
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 08:49 AM
Feb 2018

The worst part of this idea is how many people think they'll limit it to undocumented immigrants. Nope! They refused to believe a US president's documents. They refuse to believe minorities can be US citizens. When they come for white liberals, there will be no one left.

If this is such a great idea, ask the NRA why they militantly oppose having any type of registry for gun owners or even an effective criminal background check system or data collected on gun deaths.

You'll see. ICE will find and arrest American born US citizens.

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