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Eugene

(61,938 posts) Tue Feb 13, 2018, 02:00 AM Feb 2018

ANC decides to remove Zuma as South African President

Source: Reuters

WORLD NEWS FEBRUARY 11, 2018 / 8:04 PM / UPDATED 14 MINUTES AGO

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - The ANC has decided to sack Jacob Zuma as President of South Africa, a senior official said on Tuesday, after a marathon meeting to determine the fate of a leader whose scandal-plagued years in power darkened and divided Nelson Mandela’s ‘Rainbow Nation’.

The decision by the ruling party’s national executive came in the early hours of the morning, after 13 hours of tense deliberations and one face-to-face meeting between Zuma and his presumed successor, deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa.

Zuma has been living on borrowed time since Ramaphosa, a union leader once tipped as Mandela’s pick to take over the reins, was elected as head of the 106-year-old ANC in December, narrowly defeating Zuma’s ex-wife, Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma.

Despite the damning decision to order Zuma’s “recall” - ANC-speak for ‘remove from office’ - domestic media have speculated that the 75-year-old might yet defy the party’s wishes, forcing it into the indignity of having to unseat him in parliament.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-safrica-politics/anc-decides-to-remove-zuma-as-south-african-president-idUSKBN1FW028

Source: BBC

South Africa: ANC 'decides Zuma must go'

3 hours ago

South Africa's ruling ANC party will formally request that President Jacob Zuma step down after he refused to resign, media reports say.

The reported decision to "recall" Mr Zuma followed marathon talks by senior party officials that continued into the early hours of Tuesday.

If Mr Zuma, 75, still does not budge, he will face a vote of confidence in parliament that he is expected to lose.

He has been leader since 2009 but has been dogged by corruption allegations.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43039928

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ANC decides to remove Zuma as South African President (Original Post) Eugene Feb 2018 OP

K&R (nt) muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #1

The unfortunate issue is BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #2

Zuma was never fit for the presidency Nonhlanhla Feb 2018 #3

Jacob Zuma defies order from South Africa's ANC to resign Eugene Feb 2018 #4

YES --- on April 6 2017 I took these photos in Cape Town Mira Feb 2018 #5

You have instantly become my hero. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #6

It's the parliament. Mira Feb 2018 #7

muriel_volestrangler

(101,349 posts)

1. K&R (nt)

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:18 AM

Feb 2018

BumRushDaShow

(129,341 posts)

2. The unfortunate issue is

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 07:45 AM

Feb 2018

that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And the longer one is in power, the more one will fight to stay in power.

For both Parliamentary and Presidential systems, there needs to be some type of limits and/or term eligibility rules to break some of this entrenchment. That is what prompted the 22nd Amendment here in the U.S. Had FDR not died in office at the beginning of his 4th term, he probably would have been elected to a 5th term (he was that popular) -

22nd Amendment
Amendment XXII
Section 1.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxii

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)

3. Zuma was never fit for the presidency

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 08:06 AM

Feb 2018

He is uneducated (4th grade level or thereabouts), although he has some street smarts, and he is corrupt to the core. He has nearly destroyed South Africa, and has robbed the tax payers of millions of dollars.

Good riddance.

Eugene

(61,938 posts)

4. Jacob Zuma defies order from South Africa's ANC to resign

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 08:29 AM

Feb 2018

Source: The Guardian

Jacob Zuma defies order from South Africa's ANC to resign

President given 48-hour ultimatum by ruling party to stand down or face being stripped of his office

Jason Burke in Johannesburg
Tue 13 Feb 2018 07.28 GMT

Jacob Zuma has defied an ultimatum from South Africa’s ruling party to resign within 48 hours, pitching the “Rainbow Nation” into an unprecedented political crisis.

The decision to tell Zuma to stand down or face being stripped of his office was taken at a specially convened emergency session of the highest decision-making body of the African National Congress near Pretoria, the administrative capital, late on Monday evening.

The meeting of the ANC’s national executive committee (NEC) was called after it became clear over the weekend that nearly five days of talks between Zuma, who has been South Africa’s president since 2009, and the deputy president, Cyril Ramaphosa, who of the ANC in December, had failed.

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However a “defiant” Zuma demanded a three month “notice period” before resigning, one ANC official briefed on the conversation said on condition of anonymity.

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Mira

(22,380 posts)

5. YES --- on April 6 2017 I took these photos in Cape Town

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:56 AM

Feb 2018

There was a huge demonstration against Zuma, I was lucky enough to be there

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

6. You have instantly become my hero.

Reply to Mira (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:23 PM

Feb 2018

You have instantly become my hero for that.

(I'm also kind of happily gobsmacked by the gorgeous building in the second picture. Is that Parliament or another govt. building?).

Mira

(22,380 posts)

7. It's the parliament.

Reply to LanternWaste (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:58 PM

Feb 2018

You should have seen me walking waving the South African flag yelling: Zuma must go and take Trump with him
A highlight of my life.
That flag is still at my front door, next to the V-mask

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