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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 07:59 PM Feb 2018

Trump still unconvinced Russia meddled in 2016 election

Source: CNN




By Sara Murray and Jeremy Herb, CNN

Updated 6:08 PM ET, Tue February 13, 2018

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump still isn't buying that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

Even as his intelligence chiefs unanimously told a Senate panel Tuesday that Russia meddled in 2016 and is planning to do so again in 2018, three sources familiar with the President's thinking say he remains unconvinced that Russia interfered in the presidential election.

While this issue is separate from the question of whether Trump campaign officials colluded with Russian officials, to Trump the issues are interwoven, the sources say. He views the notion that Russia meddled in the election as an argument that he had help to win, and that he didn't win the election on his own.

Trump's view contradicts his intelligence chiefs, including Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, CIA Director Mike Pompeo and FBI Director Chris Wray, who all testified -- again -- on Tuesday that they supported the intelligence community's January 2017 assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

"There should be no doubt that Russia perceives its past efforts as successful and views the 2018 US midterm elections as a potential target for Russian influence operations," Coats said at the Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on worldwide threats.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/politics/trump-unconvinced-russia-meddled-election/index.html

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Trump still unconvinced Russia meddled in 2016 election (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
Im still unconvinced MontanaMama Feb 2018 #1
Thank you Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #3
That is precisely why djg21 Feb 2018 #12
+1000 MontanaMama Feb 2018 #23
Trump if fully convinced that Putin interfered; he's happy about it. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #31
But for Russia Trump would not be president WiseElder Feb 2018 #2
bigtime bigtime Feb 2018 #19
I'm not convinced IronLionZion Feb 2018 #4
His ego wont allow him to admit it YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #5
That! BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #7
he has investigators in moscow. trying to find the long form election meddling. unblock Feb 2018 #6
He knows it - just can't admit it demosincebirth Feb 2018 #8
Ah, so Donnie and Glenn are of the same mind then! Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #9
LOL. John Wilkes Booth stilll unconvinced Lincoln shot. PSPS Feb 2018 #10
of course not, HE'S FUCKING PAID NOT TO BE CONVINCED! steve2470 Feb 2018 #11
He's showing everyone that it MATTERS who occupies the WH. It's not a figurehead position, or wiggs Feb 2018 #13
Yet he was so easily convinced that Barack Obama... dchill Feb 2018 #14
Yes, your words,... "he knows better anyway" Stuart G Feb 2018 #15
I find it really hard to believe... dchill Feb 2018 #16
unconvinced, PLEASE Skittles Feb 2018 #17
He believes only anything Faux pretend-to-be-news network states on the air... SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #18
Donny Denial is Senile Blue Owl Feb 2018 #20
Gimme a break. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #21
Trump is just Putin's stooge, it is his job to be unconvinced. olddad56 Feb 2018 #22
If Trump admits Russia interferred,, then he is admitting the election was rigged in his favor. riversedge Feb 2018 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #25
Welcome to DU. Well there are several things underpants Feb 2018 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #27
That was just for brevity. underpants Feb 2018 #29
He trusts Putin more than his own intelligence chiefs. muntrv Feb 2018 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #30
Call it what it is duforsure Feb 2018 #32
Trump is repeating what his Boss, Putin, told him to say Gothmog Feb 2018 #33
Well, he may be unconvinced, but Bob Mueller isn't unconvinced olddad56 Feb 2018 #34
BS - I wish CNN would write their headlines more carefully. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #35
 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
12. That is precisely why
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:24 PM
Feb 2018

Trump never can concede that Russia tampered with the election. The minute he does, he concedes that he’s an illegitimate President. He also never can come down on domestic violence or sexual assault as the minute he does, all the women in his past will start coming out of the woodwork. Stormy Daniels was nothing.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
31. Trump if fully convinced that Putin interfered; he's happy about it.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:11 PM
Feb 2018

Why can't the MSM report this accurately?

IronLionZion

(45,516 posts)
4. I'm not convinced
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 08:11 PM
Feb 2018

that he's anything more than a steaming pile of shit.

It should be noted that these intel chiefs were Trump appointees, not Obama's. And they testified under oath that a foreign country interfered in our election, because it's true.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
7. That!
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 08:32 PM
Feb 2018

Also, deep inside he does know it, but the huge, "ego-driven" voice in his empty head is shouting louder than the whispers from the smaller, "fact-driven" voice. He is a narcissistic sociopath don't forget.
https://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

PSPS

(13,613 posts)
10. LOL. John Wilkes Booth stilll unconvinced Lincoln shot.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:14 PM
Feb 2018

Horrible headline. Replace 'unconvinced' with 'won't admit.'
The term 'unconvinced' assumes the person is open to persuasion which implies they are aware they may not have all the facts. None of this applies to trump.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
13. He's showing everyone that it MATTERS who occupies the WH. It's not a figurehead position, or
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:27 PM
Feb 2018

a beauty contest, or a competition between those whom you would most like to have a beer with. It's very, very important.

One of Trump's first actions was convening a commission to find 3 million imaginary votes. Meanwhile, an attack on our country and election gets no attention.

It matters if the POTUS is knowledgable, thoughtful, careful, compassionate, intelligent, well-read, capable of complex problem solving, adult, stable, honest, self aware, a good person, trustworthy, decent, and living in reality. And if matters if he is not any of these things.

dchill

(38,520 posts)
14. Yet he was so easily convinced that Barack Obama...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:29 PM
Feb 2018

was born in Kenya. He isn't buying the Russian interference for two reasons. He can't afford it, and he knows better anyway.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
15. Yes, your words,... "he knows better anyway"
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:36 PM
Feb 2018

I think you are correct. I think on this one, he does know a whole lot more than most of us think he knows..

Now in general, he knows much less than he claims to know..he is acutally pretty stupid. But on this one, I do think he knows a whole lot more...??maybe we will find out..maybe not..

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
18. He believes only anything Faux pretend-to-be-news network states on the air...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:17 PM
Feb 2018

Everyone else is convinced that meddling occurred.

Jedi Guy

(3,246 posts)
21. Gimme a break.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:09 PM
Feb 2018

He'd remain "unconvinced" if he sat there chit-chatting with Putin while a team of FSB operatives were stuffing ballot boxes right in front of him. It's not a matter of being convinced, it's a matter of denial. He knows deep down that if he hadn't had someone cheating on his behalf, he'd go down in history as an also-ran with a dead hamster on his head.

And that's assuming he wasn't in on it, which I don't believe for a moment.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
22. Trump is just Putin's stooge, it is his job to be unconvinced.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:24 PM
Feb 2018

Russia meddled in the US election, that is a fact, confirmed by the Senate, by the trump appointed head of the CIA, and by the trump appointed secretary of state.
That should constitute an act of war against the US.
Trump's ongoing collusion and obstruction of justice to protect our enemy is an act of treason.
Everything else is just window dressing.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

underpants

(182,868 posts)
26. Welcome to DU. Well there are several things
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 03:57 PM
Feb 2018

But for brevity I'll mention that they steered specific computers in specific areas of the country towards pro- Trump coverage and anti-Hillary coverage. They also deployed quite a few bots into social media.

Congress was briefed on the extent of actions by Russian interests and that was part of the reason for the sanctions (which Trump refused to implement). The Senate voted 98-2 and the House voted 419-3. That's how bad the intel they got was.

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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
32. Call it what it is
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:35 PM
Feb 2018

Denial because of being involved in it. He's doing the same this with abusers towards women. Deny, Deny ,Deny.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. BS - I wish CNN would write their headlines more carefully.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:10 PM
Feb 2018

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