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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:03 PM Feb 2018

Florida Gov Demands FBI Director Wray Resign Over Inaction On Shooter Tip

Source: Talking Points Memo




By Nicole Lafond | February 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) on Friday said that FBI Director Chris Wray should resign over the bureau’s failure to act on a tip it received in January about the alleged gunman who attacked a Florida high school on Wednesday, leaving 17 people dead.

“The FBI’s failure to take action against this killer is unacceptable,” Scott said in a statement. “We constantly promote ‘see something, say something,’ and a courageous person did just that to the FBI. And the FBI failed to act. ‘See something, say something’ is an incredibly important tool and people must have confidence in the follow through from law enforcement. The FBI director needs to resign.”




The FBI on Friday said that it failed to follow up on a tip from a person close to Nikolas Cruz, the alleged shooter. According to a statement from the agency, the person informed the FBI of Cruz’s “gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.”

Scott is considering running to represent Florida in the Senate and is reportedly close with President Donald Trump, who has recently launched an all-out attack on the FBI because he believes some officials are biased against his presidency.

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Florida Gov Demands FBI Director Wray Resign Over Inaction On Shooter Tip (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
And I demand you let scientists say the phrase "climate change" Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1
And I demand that Scott resign for making it so damn easy for a 19 year old to buy an AR-15. Stonepounder Feb 2018 #2
I demand you roll back Florida gun laws. Make them the strictest in the country. benld74 Feb 2018 #3
He Does Know Trump Fired FBI Director Comey... TomCADem Feb 2018 #4
exactly bluestarone Feb 2018 #12
If you looked like Scott would you look in the mirror? csziggy Feb 2018 #14
STFU. Who's proposing an extra 20,000 agents and huge increases sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #5
Marco Rubio needs to resign, for the $3.3M in pimp money he's taken from the NRA. Paladin Feb 2018 #6
Um no. An investigation needs to be done. He's one to tell someone to resign. nt chowder66 Feb 2018 #7
Give Gov. Skeletor an A for effort LeeM Feb 2018 #8
Good luck with trying to redirect people's anger at anything but lax gun laws. Those applegrove Feb 2018 #9
Translation: I am hoping to use this to help stop the Russian investigation. cstanleytech Feb 2018 #10
Bingo! Sacrificing His Constituents in the Service... TomCADem Feb 2018 #11
"This is not the time to politicize this" TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 #13
From another thread: Someone wondered if Gov Scott TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #15
Demand that everyone that blocked Gun Reform RESIGN. dbackjon Feb 2018 #16
The failure of the State of Florida and the local school district to properly democratisphere Feb 2018 #17
Rick Scott (aka "Florida Man") displacedtexan Feb 2018 #18
LOL Skittles Feb 2018 #19
Obviously trying to curry favor with Trump DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #20
If the FBI had arrested Cruz on nothing but a tip... C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Feb 2018 #21
Last time I checked, Wray wasnt FBI Director when the ball dropped djacq Feb 2018 #22
He certainly was the Director. former9thward Feb 2018 #25
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #32
So he was not the Director? former9thward Feb 2018 #33
FYI djacq Feb 2018 #39
So??? former9thward Feb 2018 #40
They want to get rid of Wray for other reasons (Trump-Russia) not this. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #23
yep bluestarone Feb 2018 #29
SO, Mr Scott ... does this mean you support the FBI arresting people and/or mr_lebowski Feb 2018 #24
No, whoever was in charge of that FBI office in Broward should be fired. kimbutgar Feb 2018 #26
I demand pRick Scott resigns because he is a crook & stole millions from medicare Motley13 Feb 2018 #27
Scott is running against our dem senator, Nelson Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #28
Ok The FBI needs to find out what happened but- pamdb Feb 2018 #30
"Florida Gov. Rick Scott blames FBI for the governor's own failure to properly regulate guns..." CousinIT Feb 2018 #31
Almost everybody else would contact local authorities texasfiddler Feb 2018 #34
Fuck Scott - And I'm a Floridian packman Feb 2018 #35
The FBI story--true or not--was released to undermine Mueller--but Mueller's indictments crushed it Julian Englis Feb 2018 #36
After you asshole! BlueIdaho Feb 2018 #37
The same Gov. Rick Scott: mpcamb Feb 2018 #38

benld74

(9,910 posts)
3. I demand you roll back Florida gun laws. Make them the strictest in the country.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:11 PM
Feb 2018

Be AN example, instead of a NRA play boy

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
4. He Does Know Trump Fired FBI Director Comey...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:12 PM
Feb 2018

...and that Wray was only appointed in August 2017, thus causing a huge disruption in FBI operations coupled with constant attacks and demands to clean house at the FBI?

Scott should look in the mirror or blame Trump and Sessions. Why doesn’t he?

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
14. If you looked like Scott would you look in the mirror?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:46 PM
Feb 2018


He won't blame any Republican that might be able to help him win a senatorial seat.

sinkingfeeling

(51,474 posts)
5. STFU. Who's proposing an extra 20,000 agents and huge increases
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:14 PM
Feb 2018

in FBI funding so that they can investigate every kook? If not, why is 45 demanding 25,000 more border guards and billions of dollars?

Paladin

(28,273 posts)
6. Marco Rubio needs to resign, for the $3.3M in pimp money he's taken from the NRA.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:17 PM
Feb 2018

Skelator Scott is just doing the usual right-wing diversion thing with the FBI. I'm sure the bureau receives thousands of such tips every year about people who have no business having access to firearms; unfortunately, human error is bound to come into play.

LeeM

(31 posts)
8. Give Gov. Skeletor an A for effort
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:17 PM
Feb 2018

The Replicants will do anything to derail the investigation. I would wager local LE and state police didn't do anything with the tips either.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
9. Good luck with trying to redirect people's anger at anything but lax gun laws. Those
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:18 PM
Feb 2018

kids at Highland will not be fooled.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
15. From another thread: Someone wondered if Gov Scott
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:51 PM
Feb 2018

should be asked to resign after 14 elder Floridians died when his office failed to respond to an SOS from the the center"s director that was left on the Gov's helpline after a hurricane last year or the year before...

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
17. The failure of the State of Florida and the local school district to properly
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:23 PM
Feb 2018

protect itself and students that attended that school from an expelled former student with serious issues is unacceptable. The Governor of Florida and the Supervisor of the School District should resign immediately. The people closest to the situation need to accept responsibility for their inaction.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
20. Obviously trying to curry favor with Trump
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:36 PM
Feb 2018

in Trump's quest to get Wray et al to resign.

I wonder if the tipster also called FDLE about Cruz.

C_eh_N_eh_D_eh

(2,205 posts)
21. If the FBI had arrested Cruz on nothing but a tip...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:55 PM
Feb 2018

... and attempted to confiscate his legally purchased guns, before he had even committed a crime, what would the State of Florida have done?

Actually, "Nikolas Cruz" sounds like a Hispanic name, so it's entirely possible they wouldn't have done jack shit, but still...

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
25. He certainly was the Director.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:41 PM
Feb 2018

And the FBI has apologized.

FBI Apologizes, Says It Failed To Probe Tip on Florida School Shooter


Miami — The FBI issued an extraordinary apology this afternoon, revealing that it had received a tip on Jan. 5, 2018, that Nikolas Cruz was acting erratically and may have been planning a school shooting. The agency failed to act on the tip.


http://www.vnews.com/FBI-apologizes-says-it-failed-to-probe-tip-on-school-shooter-Nikolas-Cruz-15612335

Response to former9thward (Reply #25)

djacq

(1,634 posts)
39. FYI
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:32 PM
Feb 2018

The current Director is Christopher A. Wray, who assumed the role on August 2, 2017 after being confirmed by the U.S. Senate, taking over from acting Director Andrew McCabe after the dismissal of former Director James Comey by President Donald Trump.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
24. SO, Mr Scott ... does this mean you support the FBI arresting people and/or
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:29 PM
Feb 2018

Confiscating weapons they are legally in possession of ... on the basis of a 'tip'?

Is that your 'official position' on the subject?

No, you don't mean THAT, do you now?

Or perhaps you feel that the FBI should immediately begin 'tailing' every single gun owner that someone else calls the FBI on and says 'this person is scaring me with his guns and talk'?

If so, how long should they FBI trail these people FOR, exactly? The rest of their lives? Just to see if they eventually act out violently?

And if so, you're good with hiring 10's of 1000's of professional FBI 'tip tailers', all with gov't salaries and pensions and benefits, at cost of probably on the order of 100's of Millions/year after all expenses and travel and per diem are paid?

No, you're not saying THAT either?

THEN WTF ARE YOU SAYING THEY SHOULD'VE DONE, dumbass?

kimbutgar

(21,195 posts)
26. No, whoever was in charge of that FBI office in Broward should be fired.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:45 PM
Feb 2018

They are the ones who dropped the ball.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
28. Scott is running against our dem senator, Nelson
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:59 PM
Feb 2018

That Scott has managed to spin this as the fault of the FBI isn't surprising. He has Twitler's full support along with a bunch of Koch brothers' money.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
30. Ok The FBI needs to find out what happened but-
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:13 PM
Feb 2018

Scott is just trying to cover his ass. They could have interviewed the kid and if he seemed somewhat normal, they can't sit on the kid forever. It's like with the Boston bomber, they checked on them but at that time, they weren't;t doing anything. Scoot is trying to deflect from Florida's gun laws. It's like I've said, having been a public librarian in an urban library for 30 years, we dealt with
people who were mentally impaired for years, the difference is, they didn't have guns. Crazy without guns is just crazy, crazy with guns is when the trouble starts.

CousinIT

(9,257 posts)
31. "Florida Gov. Rick Scott blames FBI for the governor's own failure to properly regulate guns..."
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:19 PM
Feb 2018

"...in his state."

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
34. Almost everybody else would contact local authorities
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:26 PM
Feb 2018

Something doesn't smell right. My kids go to highschool and if I knew of a potential problem kid or ex-student that could threaten my kids with guns, I would contact the local Sheriff. I think over 90% of the country would do this. Could this be a trumped up hit job against the FBI? Who bypasses the local authorities and goes to the FBI? It is stupid to do so. I have become so jaded to think of things like this.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
35. Fuck Scott - And I'm a Floridian
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:28 PM
Feb 2018

Do nothing governor in the pocket of utilities and sugar interests. A con artist like Trump who cheated Medicare and the U.S. out of millions.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
36. The FBI story--true or not--was released to undermine Mueller--but Mueller's indictments crushed it
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:36 PM
Feb 2018

It's just another try to destroy the FBI and discredit Mueller. If it is true--and there's a good reason it is--there is a reason for the FBI having trouble. Trump has been destroying the ability of the FBI and the rest of the government to function.

Destruction of the US government, of course, is just what Putin wants. Nothing too difficult here to figure out.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
37. After you asshole!
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:52 PM
Feb 2018

What the hell has Rick Scott done to make his schools safer? I know, fuck all. nothing, zilch, zip, nada...

mpcamb

(2,878 posts)
38. The same Gov. Rick Scott:
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:09 AM
Feb 2018
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/02/16/a-brief-history-of-gov-rick-scott-doing-jack-shit-about-florida-gun-violence

2011: Rick Scott signed preemption legislation, prohibiting localities from regulating firearms and ammunition. Cities and counties were forced to allow guns in parks, hospitals, and government buildings as a result. [Tampa Bay Times, 8/19/11]

2011: Rick Scott signed a controversial “docs versus glocks” bills, which punished doctors who asked patients about gun ownership. Pediatricians feared the safety repercussions of the legislation.

2011: Rick Scott said he would sign a guns-on-campus bill if it reached his desk despite the fears of many about the dangers of the mixture of guns and alcohol on campuses.

2012: A Federal judge barred enforcement of the docs v. glocks law, saying it was based on anecdotal information and unfounded conjecture.

2012: Rick Scott cut the cost of a concealed weapons permit.

2013: Rick Scott said he would not be proposing any changes to state gun laws during the year, despite the Sandy Hook massacre just weeks earlier.

2013: Rick Scott opposed universal background checks for gun purchases: “It’s always easy to say do something when no one understands what it is.”

2014: Rick Scott signed House Bill 89, which intended to allow people to use threatened force, such as a warning shot, as part of the stand your ground defense.

2014: Rick Scott signed legislation allowing children to play with simulated weapons in school.

2015: Rick Scott signed Senate Bill 290, which allowed Floridians to carry a concealed weapon for 48 hours during a mandatory evacuation without a license.

2016: Rick Scott cut the cost of a concealed weapons permit — for a second time in his Administration.

2016: Rick Scott refused to talk about gun measures in the aftermath of the Pulse shooting: "There will be plenty of time to deal with how our society comes together.”

2016: Rick Scott refused to talk about gun measures in the aftermath of the Fort Meyers club shooting: “The Second Amendment Has Never Shot Anybody"

2017: 11th Circuit Court Of Appeals struck down the docs v. glocks law.

2017: Miami Judge ruled that the new changes to the Stand Your Ground Law were unconstitutional.

2017: Rick Scott refused to talk about gun measures in the aftermath of the Fort Lauderdale Airport shooting: “It’s not a time to be political" [Transcript – Rick Scott Press Conference, 1/6/17]

2017: Rick Scott cut the cost of a concealed weapons permit — for a third time in his Administration.
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