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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:06 PM Aug 2012

Guilty As Stim: Chris Hayes Digs Up Devastating Video Of Paul Ryan Stimulus Hypocrisy

Source: Mediaite

Newly-minted vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan was already having a bad first week of running-matery when he told a reporter that he “never asked for stimulus,” only to be later confronted with letters in which he did exactly that, letters in which he extolled the job-creating virtues of stimulus funds. On Sunday morning’s Up with Chris Hayes, host Chris Hayes dug Ryan’s shovel-ready hole a little deeper with some devastating archival videos that show Ryan arguing for stimulus more forcefully than any Democrat.

With the Romney/Ryan ticket already losing the fight they knew they were going to have, they needed this stimulus story like they needed a knife in their Granny’s necks. When Ryan told an Ohio TV reporter that he “never asked for stimulus,” however, he opened a can of worms the size of Cleveland. Ryan also told that local reporter that he “opposed the stimulus because it doesn’t work.”

As it turned out, Ryan had secured tens of millions of dollars in stimulus funds by writing letters praising the program. Ryan’s office explained that he was just trying to help some of his constituents out…with something that he says “doesn’t work.”

That’s pretty bad, but “a constituent made me do it” is the kind of answer that might satisfy people, especially the Ryan-enthralled mainstream media. Enter Chris Hayes, who set the table with a 2010 clip of Ryan blasting “borrow and spend” policies as a failed experiment, followed by some Bush-era clips of Ryan forcefully advocating for those exact kinds of policies, while also acknowledging that unemployment often drags on in a recovery. The fact that Paul Ryan is making arguments in these clips that could serve as campaign ads for President Obama isn’t the most surprising thing about these clips, though:

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Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/guilty-as-stim-chris-hayes-digs-up-devastating-video-of-paul-ryan-stimulus-hypocrisy/



Video at the link.

The 2002 video of Ryan also shows Ryan arguing for an extension of unemployment benefits and health insurance.

Ryan said then that even those concerned about the deficit should support the stimulus because the stimulus bill consisted of "time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions" which will help the economy.

And after that speech on the floor of the House, Ryan returned to Wisconsin for a town hall where he told his constituents, "You have to spend a little to grow a little. What we're trying to do is stimulate that part of the economy that's on its back."
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Guilty As Stim: Chris Hayes Digs Up Devastating Video Of Paul Ryan Stimulus Hypocrisy (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2012 OP
K&R nt avebury Aug 2012 #1
More GOP hypocrisy Lunabelle Aug 2012 #2
But Hypocrisy has never hurt a GOP candidate. KILL THE WISE ONE Aug 2012 #19
So government spending is good when a Repuke is in charge, bad when a Dem is in charge, and... Scuba Aug 2012 #3
I Believe The Term For Ryan Is Shit-Weasel HangOnKids Aug 2012 #5
I like it. Describes him to a Tee. Scuba Aug 2012 #9
You got half of it! KansDem Aug 2012 #22
too bad... what do you think of that???? Let us hear it for Chris Hayes...Ryan double liar...nt. Stuart G Aug 2012 #4
stunning. mopinko Aug 2012 #6
+1,000,000. That old video of Ryan is perfect for Democratic campaign ads. highplainsdem Aug 2012 #7
Don't worry ...it will be an ad...it will be...nt Stuart G Aug 2012 #14
The "old" Romney and Ryan, as shown by video, cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #8
Isn't Ryan a Roman Catholic? Or does his soulmate's atheist avowal transfer onto him? nt Stardust Aug 2012 #13
From what I'm reading, he may be a CINO. cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #17
He probably is a CINO (ha! I love that!). He does indeed appear to be schizophrenic. And they're Stardust Aug 2012 #29
same as McCain last time around wordpix Aug 2012 #15
I think it's the opposite. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #25
Can't get it to play. efhmc Aug 2012 #10
It's working. It's the second image in the article, and follows the first four paragraphs. There's highplainsdem Aug 2012 #11
Thanks. efhmc Aug 2012 #21
He was for it...Before he was against it. SoapBox Aug 2012 #12
Great TV ad! Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #16
Rachel Maddow, as usual, has done her homework and... cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #18
showed this to a conservative friend, (lame excuses) iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #20
Two-faced forked-tongue ryan Dont call me Shirley Aug 2012 #23
I love the smell of partisan hypocrisy and in fact it smells like.......victory. nt cstanleytech Aug 2012 #24
the level of stupidity is amazing madrchsod Aug 2012 #26
Yep! Saw that this morning bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #27
Todays show was great! ashling Aug 2012 #28
That has been the GOP playbook voting against a bill then going to their district and taking credit vinny9698 Aug 2012 #30
"Rep. Ryan -- did you, or did you not, engage in self-stimulation?" eppur_se_muova Aug 2012 #31
This was surprising even to me. mwb970 Aug 2012 #32
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
3. So government spending is good when a Repuke is in charge, bad when a Dem is in charge, and...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:13 PM
Aug 2012

... Paul Ryan is a deceitful, lying weasel.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
5. I Believe The Term For Ryan Is Shit-Weasel
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:18 PM
Aug 2012

DUer Bravo11 coined it for Cantor but it fits Ryan so very well.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
22. You got half of it!
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:31 PM
Aug 2012

Also:

Deficits are good when a Repuke is in charge, bad when a Dem is in charge.

From last year:

"Reagan," Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House. After all, while Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt and George W. Bush doubled it again, each Republican was rewarded with a second term in office. But as the Gallup polling data show, concern over the federal deficit hasn't been this high since Democratic budget balancer Bill Clinton was in office. All of which suggest the Republicans' born-again disdain for deficits ranks among the greatest - and most successful - political double-standards in recent memory.

--more--
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/reagan-proved-deficits-dont-matter

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
8. The "old" Romney and Ryan, as shown by video,
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:30 PM
Aug 2012

sound like Democrats, Blue Dogs, perhaps, but Democrats just the same. Amazing. They have both had to "change their stripes", some would say, sold their souls, for a shot at the big Presidential Prize. It's hard to be a political candidate in the age of file/archive video, instant Twitter, etc.

The Republicans must have lost their collective minds ... a Mormon and an Atheist ... neither they or families in any military service ... no foreign-policy experience, former left-centrists ... having to learn the "talking points" in public.

I predict a lot will just stay home...hopefully at least enough to offset the voter ID mess.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
17. From what I'm reading, he may be a CINO.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:33 PM
Aug 2012

The Nuns don't like him, certain of the Bishops have strongly nixed his plan and another mentioned he "started taking his children to Mass".

After watching tape of him on the House Floor advocating for human services such as unemployment and federal stimulus as a jobs program, etc., then his more current Ayn Rand video and actions, he's starting to look downright schizophrenic, as opposed to Mitt, the Flip-Flopper.

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
29. He probably is a CINO (ha! I love that!). He does indeed appear to be schizophrenic. And they're
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:01 AM
Aug 2012
both definitely sociopaths. I feel like we are living in 1933 Germany.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
25. I think it's the opposite.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:27 PM
Aug 2012

They aren't pandering now. They were pandering then, and now we're hearing what they really think.

highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
11. It's working. It's the second image in the article, and follows the first four paragraphs. There's
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:43 PM
Aug 2012

a photo of the Ryan video next to the first paragraph, but that one is just a photo.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
18. Rachel Maddow, as usual, has done her homework and...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:41 PM
Aug 2012

the video results on her site ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc-rachel_maddow_show ... are a stunning example of investigative journalism.

She's the new Molly Ivins...guts, grit, humor,and downright unabashed liberal/progressive. She, however, has a nationwide TW show and hope she keeps it for a long time.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
20. showed this to a conservative friend, (lame excuses)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:16 PM
Aug 2012

already getting lame excuses..

"well... we had an economy still! so it would have worked! thats why!"

clearly he didnt even watch the video, cause Ryan admits we are already in a recession.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
26. the level of stupidity is amazing
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:58 PM
Aug 2012

the main reason people are elected to the house is to get as much as they can for their district. if they do`t they will be replaced by someone who will.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
27. Yep! Saw that this morning
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:20 PM
Aug 2012

The video is golden and needs to be used in a campaign ad outlining Ryan's HUGE flip flop.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
30. That has been the GOP playbook voting against a bill then going to their district and taking credit
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:01 AM
Aug 2012

Taking credit for it if it passed. You seen them do it with the stimulus bill, and other bills.

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
31. "Rep. Ryan -- did you, or did you not, engage in self-stimulation?"
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
Aug 2012

I'm buying dinner for the first reporter who asks that.

mwb970

(11,361 posts)
32. This was surprising even to me.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

And I'm used to this stuff! I watched in amazement as Ryan advanced every single (correct) argument for bush's stimulus, even getting sort of exercised and waving his hand about, etc.

Wow.

This is a stunning level of hypocrisy, even for a republican.

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