Maybe Trump is working with the Russians to provoke a war.

Having lived here for two decades, it doesn't take much to get the reich in this country going

Send them all home.

in sports and in politics

The worst example, from my own interest, was the 2014 SOCHI women's figure skating fiasco.

The gold was stolen from Yuna Kim and the whole world knows it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Winter_Olympics_figure_skating_scandal

When a french judge was working with the Russians to elevate the Russian pairs skaters in exchange for the same help from Russian judges for another figure skating event with French skaters.

What is still outrageous is that, not only did they rob Jamie Salé and David Pelletier of their moment, when they finally did give them the gold retroactively, they allowed the Russians to keep their gold too!


I know not every Russian is lying cheat, but their whole society is built on corruption and cheating. I have a brother-in-law who grew up in a Russian satellite country. Every aspect of their life is corrupted. He told me his experience getting his first driving license. He studied hard and practiced when he could, and felt he was ready. So he took the test and was flawless. But got rejected. He practiced more and tried again, same result. Finally someone took him aside and told him how to get the license. Put so much $ into an envelope and deliver it to this address. He did, and the next test try he passed no problem.

I think their whole society is sick and damaged. Putin is like the ultimate mob boss. He's reportedly the richest man in the world but no one knows just how much he has. Ill gotten through kickbacks and blatant stealing from other billionaires that disagreed with him politically. But their society seems to be conditioned after decades (actually centuries) of authoritarian rule. He has probably stolen so much from the Russian people in terms of what they could have built there with all that money. But like in any country, there is a segment that adores a "strong leader" promotes nationalism, orthodox religion, military endeavors, and just saying how great they all are. And its mostly all they know.

But they should be shamed on the world stage. Even after this mild punishment of being allowed to participate but under the banner of OAR, they STILL had, I believe, the only two athletes caught doping in the 2018 games. And now this allegation? They should be outright banned for the next two at least.

But only a segment.

To say "I think their whole society is sick and damaged," is, I think, a bit much. It is, as now also here, the government and that ignorant nationalistic segment.

As of last year, 87 percent of Russians said they had a lot or some confidence in Russian President Vladimir Putin's handling of world affairs

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-87-percent-of-russians-approve-of-leader-vladimir-putin/article/2626659



Only one other Russian historical figure 'trumps' Putin:

For Russians, Stalin is the ‘most outstanding’ figure in world history, followed by Putin


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/06/26/for-russians-stalin-is-the-most-outstanding-figure-in-world-history-putin-is-next/?utm_term=.770aa5b2e878


Obviously there is a segment, a minority, that has more liberal values, and want to get rid of corruption. But their leaders don't last too long. Or at least are not allowed to run in elections, and set up on bogus charges.

No, Russia has evolved into a mob state where most are happy to kiss the shoes of their godfather. That or they are are just resigned to their fate and afraid of disent. It is what America could look like under a Trump with brains, together with the corrupted election tactics of the GOP. I can only imagine if Trump had any kind of self control, or intellect. If he had avoided the 'bus tape' from coming out, had resisted saying that nazis were good people, and all the other shit he has spewn. For that matter if he had turned in his twitter account upon election. He would have been the GOP's dream candidate! It would have been a cake walk with the National Review even endorsing him. His ability to lie to large crowds without flinching, his fine honed ability to sell snake oil. All he needed was to be able to pretend well enough that he was a 'moderate'.

Then I could see the GOP get really bold. They hold majority of seats of government and the court. They could change the laws to be more like Russia, where Trump could serve out eight years, with the help of a now ingrained corrupted election system and hackable machines with no oversight. Then take a break and have some stooge fill in for four years, and be eligible to run again. And each year more laws made to curtail freedom of protest, abolished net neutrality to shut down liberal news sources, ramp up even more the dominance of RW media. The Sinclair Group would be in on it. Every year it would be more and more difficult to RESIST. All the while doing a 1984 job on the population stoking fears and inventing threats to rally around. Don't think America like any country is not susceptible.

Russians, but given the green light by comrade Trump it will only get worse.

Notice how this would play into Trump's warhawk stance...looks like U.S. intelligence continues to refuse to bow down to anything else but their sworn oaths.

Well, I don't!

That would be a first strike. The Russians would have to retaliate and they have enough nukes to level the planet.

I am putting you on ignore.

A focused EMP weapon that could be used to target several sites. I dreamed of a low earth orbit platform and thought it was just the stuff of science fiction. It turns out that there is such a thing that can be flown over targets:

Electronics-killing EMP weapons for combat aircraft is focus of $15 million contract to Raytheon

http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/2017/05/electronics-killing-emp-weapons.html

They can't compete? OK then they'll make sure that nobody competes.
And we can't pin it on them either, na-na-na-na-na!

What a bunch of 5 year olds.

Why else announce new sanctions on North Korea when North Korea has been temporarily quiet?

pissed off trumputin.

Same drug that got the tennis player Maria Sharapova pinched. It's used to increase blood flow and slow the heart rate. I can see where you don't want to get hyper sending that big rock down the course.
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The Russians seem unable to follow the rules of society

Needs more sanctions that comrade shit gibbon won't implement.