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Federal Court Rejects PA Congressional Redistricting Challenge, Leaving Issue to SCOTUS (Original Post) Gothmog Mar 2018 OP
Great news bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #1
No standing Gothmog Mar 2018 #2
Misleading title Hokie Mar 2018 #3
Blame Prof. Hasen Gothmog Mar 2018 #7
However, a bit of editing will give a much clearer impression muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #8
The original title of the article was too long Gothmog Mar 2018 #14
Thank you muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #18
Thank you for giving me permission to do what all lawyers want to do-edit Gothmog Mar 2018 #19
Scared me for a minute when I saw the headline ... we NEED those new maps ... mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #4
Yes! gademocrat7 Mar 2018 #5
Good news for free and FAIR elections! Stonepounder Mar 2018 #6
not quite there yet Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #25
Headline was scary redstateblues Mar 2018 #9
Yes, I had to read that three times and then rely on some of the other comments.... George II Mar 2018 #11
Sorry Gothmog Mar 2018 #13
See if my edit helps Gothmog Mar 2018 #16
This makes me smile Gothmog Mar 2018 #21
that is a smack-down Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #26
LOL! Classic! DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #30
AWESOME bluestarone Mar 2018 #10
Fed Judges Reject GOP Congressmens Lawsuit Challenging PA District Map Gothmog Mar 2018 #12
It appears cry wolf Republicans could not find an actual wolf to be the plaintiff. No standing. Sad. Fred Sanders Mar 2018 #24
K and flippin R!! Great news, thanks Gothmog!! nt Leghorn21 Mar 2018 #15
Yes!!!! BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #17
Justice Alito already decided that it has no standing FakeNoose Mar 2018 #32
Here is link to the opinion Gothmog Mar 2018 #20
Are the state GOP going to move to impeach now? NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #22
Can't envision them giving up durablend Mar 2018 #28
All candidates seem to accept the new map will stay DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #33
Does this not seem like it's edging close to a "state's rights" issue? BobTheSubgenius Mar 2018 #23
This is a states rights case on under PA constitution Gothmog Mar 2018 #27
SCOTUS issued a 1-line no stay notice. BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #39
Thank you for making me smile Gothmog Mar 2018 #40
Thanks for that tweet! BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #42
I do a great deal of volunteer work in the voter protection area Gothmog Mar 2018 #43
Cool. BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #46
Go to the #ACLUvKobach twitter feed Gothmog Mar 2018 #47
Ha!!!! BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #49
That trial is my new favorite soap opera Gothmog Mar 2018 #51
I know this is good news mountain grammy Mar 2018 #29
BREAKING - SCOTUS WILL NOT ISSUE STAY BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #31
Done and done DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #34
WaPo article BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #35
Plus BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #36
Can't fix stupid DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #37
Inbreeding much? Perhaps genetically but definitely collegially erronis Mar 2018 #38
This is a great day for voting rights Gothmog Mar 2018 #44
Supreme Court, With No Noted Dissent, Refuses to Intervene in Pa Redistricting Case Gothmog Mar 2018 #41
I was just coming here to post this. I guess it's over now and we can rest easy? George II Mar 2018 #45
Unless the GOP succeeds in impeaching all of the Democratic SC justices Gothmog Mar 2018 #48
GOP admits defeat Gothmog Mar 2018 #50

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
8. However, a bit of editing will give a much clearer impression
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:35 PM
Mar 2018

than just having the end lopped off.

"Breaking: 3-Judge Federal Court (All R Nominees) Rejects PA Congressional Redistricting Challenge" fits - could you change it to that, please? (I'm an LBN host, so I guarantee we'll be happy with that)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
18. Thank you
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:51 PM
Mar 2018

Yes, DU limits the characters. As hosts, we're OK with judicious editing of titles in cases like this - your change is good.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
19. Thank you for giving me permission to do what all lawyers want to do-edit
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:56 PM
Mar 2018

My first inclination was to edit but I resisted. You have no idea as to how hard it is for a lawyer to resist editing something. In this case, the law professor was too wordy and I knew that I could do better

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. Scared me for a minute when I saw the headline ... we NEED those new maps ...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:29 PM
Mar 2018

So happy to see the GOP F***ING LOSE.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
6. Good news for free and FAIR elections!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:29 PM
Mar 2018

Now all we need is to get Putin's grubby mitts out of the ballot box.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Yes, I had to read that three times and then rely on some of the other comments....
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:38 PM
Mar 2018

....to realize this is a GOOD thing.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
12. Fed Judges Reject GOP Congressmens Lawsuit Challenging PA District Map
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:39 PM
Mar 2018

This article has a better title https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/federal-judges-reject-gop-lawsuit-pennsylvania-district-map

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — A panel of federal judges is throwing out a legal challenge by Republican congressmen to a district map developed last month by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

The judges said Monday they have no authority to act in the matter except to throw out the case.

The decision comes with a day left for the state’s congressional candidates to circulate petitions to get on the May 15 primary ballot.

The Democratic majority on the state Supreme Court ruled in January that the map Republicans crafted in 2011 amounted to an unconstitutional gerrymander.

Warning-SCOTUS has to still rule

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. It appears cry wolf Republicans could not find an actual wolf to be the plaintiff. No standing. Sad.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:52 PM
Mar 2018

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
32. Justice Alito already decided that it has no standing
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:22 PM
Mar 2018

Unless something has changed in the last 2 weeks, we already know that SCOTUS doesn't want to hear this.
The GOP is just wasting everybody's time.

I guess that means the issue is dead and the new PA district map will stand until the 2020 Census. This is a great ruling for not just Pennsylvania, but *every state* that's fighting this pernicious rightwing gerrymandering issue.

This is a victory for all of us.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
33. All candidates seem to accept the new map will stay
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:23 PM
Mar 2018

Saccone has already gathered petitions to run in the new 14thCD as has Lamb in the new 17th CD.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
23. Does this not seem like it's edging close to a "state's rights" issue?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 02:50 PM
Mar 2018

You know....what the GOP says about almost anything federal they don't like.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
27. This is a states rights case on under PA constitution
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:09 PM
Mar 2018

The PA supreme court ruled that based on the PA state constitution, the current Congressional maps were not proper and ordered new maps. This is a purely state law issue which is why the federal court rejected jurisdiction.

The SCOTUS had previously declined to find federal jurisdiction but the latest appeal has been pending for a while and I am getting nervous

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
42. Thanks for that tweet!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:35 PM
Mar 2018

Funny I kept refreshing SCOTUSBlog and should have gone to Election Law blog when I heard it on the radio. Ended up getting a story link from the Washington Post before they even sent out their own alert.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
43. I do a great deal of volunteer work in the voter protection area
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:49 PM
Mar 2018

I read the Hasen blog and some other legal blogs on a regular basis.

I was the source for this post by Hasen http://electionlawblog.org/?p=97946 I kept my copy of the legal memo from the Obama voter protection team because it was so funny

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
46. Cool.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:23 PM
Mar 2018

These law blogs have been a godsend, especially when they do live-blogging of some of the decisions and later provide really great (lay) summaries.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
49. Ha!!!!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:42 PM
Mar 2018

Thanks!

I saw someone post in a GD thread yesterday about Kobach being run through the ringer in court!!!

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
34. Done and done
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:26 PM
Mar 2018

Exellent.

Instead of negotiating with Gov Wolf for a new map that might have been a bit more favorable to the GOP, they decided to throw a hissy fit and go to court. Now they have a map that's not as favorable for the next 6 years. Boo hoo.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
35. WaPo article
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:29 PM
Mar 2018
Supreme Court refuses to stop new congressional maps in Pennsylvania

The Supreme Court on Monday turned down a request from Pennsylvania Republican legislative leaders to block the implementation of a redrawn congressional map that creates more parity between the political parties in the state.

It was the second time that the court declined to get involved in the partisan battle that has roiled Pennsylvania politics. The commonwealth’s highest court earlier this year ruled that a map drawn by the Republicans leaders in 2011 “clearly, plainly and palpably” violated the Free and Equal Elections Clause of the Pennsylvania constitution.

The U.S. Supreme Court deliberated nearly two weeks before turning down the request to stop the map from being used in this fall’s elections. Generally the justices stay out of the way when a state’s highest court is interpreting its own state constitution.

The practical impact is the 2018 elections are likely to be held under a map much more favorable to Democrats, who scored a surprising victory last week in a special election. The 2011 map that has been used this decade has resulted in Republicans consistently winning 13 of the state’s 18 congressional seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-refuses-to-stop-new-congressional-maps-in-pennsylvania/2018/03/19/128d9656-215e-11e8-badd-7c9f29a55815_story.html?utm_term=.bc11b0e478fb

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
36. Plus
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:31 PM
Mar 2018

Wolf even offered for them to go on and pass a "shell bill" and they could stick a map in there later but they refused.

Blue Tsunami!!!

erronis

(15,303 posts)
38. Inbreeding much? Perhaps genetically but definitely collegially
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:15 PM
Mar 2018

I feel sort of sorry for people who are stupid because their stupid parent somehow mingled their genes with a stupid relative.

I don't feel so sorry for people who get all of their news and talking points from a very limited source. They may have been genetically predisposed to do so, but I'll assume that 90% are just willingly intellectually lazy and want to hear what their bully in the pulpit is telling them.

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