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Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:49 AM Apr 2018

Free high-capacity magazines given out at gun rights rally

Source: Associated Press


Updated 3:59 pm, Saturday, March 31, 2018

MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — Gun rights supporters protesting gun restriction legislation have gathered outside the Vermont Statehouse to urge the governor not to sign the bill.

Police estimate hundreds of protesters turned out Saturday to show their opposition a day after the Vermont legislature passed the gun restrictions package.

Protesters were giving away 1,200 30-round magazines. The legislation would ban high-capacity magazines and rapid-fire devices known as bump stocks, in addition to raising the legal age. It also would expand background checks for private gun sales.

People who own high-capacity magazines before the law takes effect can keep them.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Free-high-capacity-magazines-given-out-at-gun-12796337.php#photo-15320262

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Free high-capacity magazines given out at gun rights rally (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2018 OP
Sick. Aristus Apr 2018 #1
but, but.... Locrian Apr 2018 #11
In most states it is illegal to hunt with them hack89 Apr 2018 #15
Yup. GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #18
Can't ban bullets hack89 Apr 2018 #19
Well... GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #21
Not fair posting like that before my second cup of coffee! hack89 Apr 2018 #22
Have a third cup on me GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #25
I grew up with the Mariners hack89 Apr 2018 #26
I travel for work GeorgeHayduke Apr 2018 #28
Ammunition sellers could raise the price to $5 per bullet. forgotmylogin Apr 2018 #30
They are not stupid hack89 Apr 2018 #34
Well, you could tax them like cigarettes. rgbecker Apr 2018 #36
Defacto bans are unconstitutional hack89 Apr 2018 #37
So the already federal tax on arms and ammo is Uncontstitutional? rgbecker Apr 2018 #38
No. Using taxes to inhibit the exercise of a constitutional right is unconstitutional hack89 Apr 2018 #39
April Fools prank? Throck Apr 2018 #2
No the story is real lunasun Apr 2018 #3
White wing gunners loves them some hicap mags for their AR15s, and not for hunting animals. Hoyt Apr 2018 #4
Happy Easter. dchill Apr 2018 #5
Most AR-15 rifles sold today come with 20 or 30 round magazines. spin Apr 2018 #6
Gun nuts know there are plenty of regulations already on guns, so obviously they can be Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #10
I assume this is what you are referring to. ... spin Apr 2018 #23
Yes, selectively editing the second amendment and now cynically claiming to defend it Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #32
So, sickening. iluvtennis Apr 2018 #7
I think part of these types of actions is out of spite BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #8
I'm guessing that was a pretty expensive giveaway. tomp Apr 2018 #9
$12,000, give or take NickB79 Apr 2018 #14
Magpul, the manufacturer of the magazines samir.g Apr 2018 #16
Dammit! No grandfathering... paleotn Apr 2018 #12
The magazine ban portion of the law is pretty much unenforcable DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2018 #31
Sure, another silly gun argument easily refuted..." why bother with laws if they can easily be Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #33
I recall during the '94 ban people were making 10 rd magazines that were the same size... EL34x4 Apr 2018 #35
I thought they didn't like people getting free stuff. n/t malthaussen Apr 2018 #13
I hope they can track who accepted those magazines samir.g Apr 2018 #17
Never happen hack89 Apr 2018 #20
until it does samir.g Apr 2018 #24
ok. nt hack89 Apr 2018 #27
Magazines don't have serial numbers NickB79 Apr 2018 #29

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
1. Sick.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:52 AM
Apr 2018

There's no way those vile scumbags will ever be able to convince me they need high-capacity magazines for hunting...

GeorgeHayduke

(1,227 posts)
18. Yup.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 11:43 AM
Apr 2018

And I've never encountered a hunter who needed more than a few rounds to hunt, save for a few poachers and maybe varmint shooters. Most of us hunters here use a bolt-action rifle like our fathers taught us.

The only people I've encountered arguing for high-cap mags are target shooters who claim to hate reloading.

Which is kind of like needing more toilet paper now so you dont have to wipe your ass after your next deuce.

It just doesn't work that way.

Just ban bullets.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
26. I grew up with the Mariners
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:21 PM
Apr 2018

Their first year was when I was in high school. Same with the Seahawks. Being a Seahawk fan in Patriots country can be interesting.

Right now I am watching the Bruins. Can't wait until Seattle gets their NHL team.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
30. Ammunition sellers could raise the price to $5 per bullet.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 01:14 PM
Apr 2018

Make those magazines real expensive to fill up and empty.

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
38. So the already federal tax on arms and ammo is Uncontstitutional?
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 09:30 AM
Apr 2018

Is that your point?

My point was that the cigarette tax, which has raised the price of a 20 cent pack of cigarettes to $10, has saved a lot of lives. People rethink how they spend their money when the amounts become significant. RE: Cost of gasoline, electricity, hamburger.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
39. No. Using taxes to inhibit the exercise of a constitutional right is unconstitutional
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 10:31 AM
Apr 2018

your stated desire to make ammo so expensive as to make many people unable to afford it is an illegal tax. The current tax, which has been in place for decades, is reasonable and not a burden.

Cigarettes are not a constitutional right. Big difference - any law restricting a right has to be the narrowest scope possible. Your tax is not narrow in scope and will negatively impact millions of Americans.

spin

(17,493 posts)
6. Most AR-15 rifles sold today come with 20 or 30 round magazines.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 01:48 AM
Apr 2018

For example:

Colt AR-15

The Colt AR-15 is a lightweight, 5.56×45mm, magazine-fed, gas-operated semi-automatic rifle. It was designed to be manufactured with the extensive use of aluminum alloys and synthetic materials. It is a semi-automatic version of the United States military M16 rifle. Colt's Manufacturing Company currently uses the AR-15 trademark for its line of semi-automatic AR-15 rifles that are marketed to civilian and law-enforcement customers.

***snip***

Magazines

The Colt AR-15 uses 20- or 30-round staggered-column detachable box magazines. Low-capacity 5- or 10-round magazines are also available to comply with legal restrictions, for hunting, for benchrest shooting or where a larger magazine can be inconvenient.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_AR-15

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. Gun nuts know there are plenty of regulations already on guns, so obviously they can be
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 08:07 AM
Apr 2018

regulated some more...and more...and more...and about time everyone realize "regulated" is the second word in the second...so, duh.

So scary the NRA erased the the the first words of the sacred text on their nation nap HW plaque honoring the holy writing. Why is that?

spin

(17,493 posts)
23. I assume this is what you are referring to. ...
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 12:12 PM
Apr 2018
The NRA Story
From Rifle Club to Extremist Gun Rights Lobby
How the National Rifle Association evolved from a Shooting Club to a Terrorist Organization


***snip***

In 1976, Carter was the head of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action (ILA), which had been established just the year before on the advice of its allies in Congress. Its mission was to fend off gun-control legislation coming from both state and federal lawmakers. Maxwell Rich and the other NRA leaders treated the ILA like an unwelcome stepchild and limited its funding and operations.

When the NRA leadership became aware of the threat from Carter’s “Federation of the NRA”, they staged what became known as the “Weekend Massacre” in November of 1976, firing 80 employees associated with Carter’s new guard, including the entire staff of the ILA. For months, the Carter cadre secretly plotted their revenge and hijacked the NRA’s annual meeting in Cincinnati in May 1977 – the meeting which had been moved from Washington, DC, to protest its new strict gun control law.

Using the NRA’s parliamentary rules, the rebels interrupted the agenda from the floor and revised how the Board of Directors was chosen, recommitted the NRA to fighting gun control and restored the ILA. By 4 AM the next morning, Harlon Carter had became the NRA’s new executive director and his protégé, Neal Knox, was head of the ILA. Carter cancelled the planned move of the NRA national headquarters to Colorado Springs, and he changed the organization’s motto on its DC headquarters, selectively editing the Second Amendment to reflect a non-compromising militancy, “The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed.”



Immediately the announcement went forth: “The National Rifle Association is cutting back on its conservation and wildlife programs to devote most of its energies to fighting gun control.”
https://riversong.wordpress.com/the-nra-story/

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
32. Yes, selectively editing the second amendment and now cynically claiming to defend it
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 02:46 PM
Apr 2018

exposes the hypocrisy and false arguments in a nutshell.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
8. I think part of these types of actions is out of spite
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 06:23 AM
Apr 2018

to gun control supporters so they thumb their noses like "we'll show you". My first graders had about the same level of maturity.

paleotn

(17,959 posts)
12. Dammit! No grandfathering...
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 09:29 AM
Apr 2018

Buy back and / or confiscate. Period. Grandfathering existing high capacity magazines defeats the purpose of the legislation.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,926 posts)
31. The magazine ban portion of the law is pretty much unenforcable
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 01:41 PM
Apr 2018

Magazines aren't required to be stamped with a serial number or manufacturing date, which itself wouldn't matter much as hundreds of millions if not billions of magazines are out there. There is no way to tell which magazine was possessed before or after the law goes into effect. This is basically just a in state sales ban, which if it goes like how Colorado's did, will be widely ignored(an associate attorney at the firm I am at has family in Colorado. Says high capacity magazines are still sold despite the law, with most law enforcement basically ignoring it. He says the state may repeal it soon.)

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
33. Sure, another silly gun argument easily refuted..." why bother with laws if they can easily be
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 02:48 PM
Apr 2018

not obeyed" is arguably the most laughable of all. Just sad.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
35. I recall during the '94 ban people were making 10 rd magazines that were the same size...
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 03:33 PM
Apr 2018

...as 30 rd magazines --for "aesthetic purposes" of course. They looked just like 30 rd magazines and were constructed the same way except they had a little metal tab bent up to stop the feed ramp and prevent more than 10 rounds from being inserted.

It didn't take much ingenuity to figure out that if you took the magazine apart and broke off that little metal tab, you'd now have a perfectly-functioning 30 round magazine!

samir.g

(835 posts)
17. I hope they can track who accepted those magazines
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 11:30 AM
Apr 2018

The next step needs to be a turn-in of grandfathered magazines.

The cool part here is that they won't have to be compensated for a free magazine

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