The Atlantic Fires Kevin Williamson Over Remarks That Women Who Get Abortions Should Be Hanged
Source: Mediate
by Justin Baragona | 2:18 pm, April 5th, 2018
After Media Matters dug up a 2014 podcast in which conservative writer Kevin Williamson doubled-down on tweets he had sent calling on women to be executed by hanging for obtaining abortions, The Atlantic has fired him over the controversial comments.
Per Guardian columnist and feminist author Jessica Valenti, Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg sent the publications staff a memo explaining the termination:
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Politicos Michael Calderone obtained the memo, which can be seen in the tweet below:
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In the memo, Goldberg stated that Williamson who had been hired late last month to be a columnist for the magazines Ideas section had initially explained his hanging comments as an intemperate tweet that was sent in the heat of the moment. The unearthed podcast, however, represented Williamsons carefully considered views. Beyond that, Goldberg described Williamsons language in the podcast as Callous and violent.
The editor pointed out in the memo that Williamson wasnt being let go over his pro-life views, adding that they understood his views on abortion when the publication hired him.
Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/online/the-atlantic-fires-kevin-williamson-over-remarks-that-women-who-get-abortions-should-be-hanged/
riversedge
(70,285 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The GOP candidate in question is Robert Nonini, one of the more useless legislators from Kootenai County. He's currently running for lieutenant governor.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/election/article207845019.html
He's recently backed away, at least publicly, from that position...now he thinks the "threat of prosecution" will end abortion in Idaho. (Which is sort of a fool's errand; anyone needing abortion care in North Idaho simply drives to Planned Parenthood in Spokane. I seriously doubt a law banning pregnant women from leaving the state would make it past the 9th Circuit.)
muriel_volestrangler
(101,355 posts)and compare it with everything else they say.
musette_sf
(10,204 posts)"I'm only joking"
"Can't you take a joke?"
"You're too thin-skinned"
iluvtennis
(19,868 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)that any woman has sex without their permission and mainly because they know women dont want to have sex with them.
There is a PP office on my drive home and everyday there are idiots protesting, always in the same spot, I NEVER look at them as if I dont see them and they dont exist.
They are always looking to make eye contact with me, I refuse, I will not acknowledge their existence.
3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)Jesus H. Christ!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,683 posts)Men who believe these things are dangerous and vile.
I applaud The Atlantic for their actions.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Because this info was already out there along with God knows what else since Williamson sanitized his twitter archives as if folks wouldn't notice.
matt819
(10,749 posts)It would be wonderful if all publications could do what The Atlantic tried to do and what the NYT and WP are doing - printing intelligently argued and written commentary from both sides (and maybe more than just two) of the political aisle. After all, maybe we could all learn a thing or two from people whose views are different from ours.
Yeah, right.
Why is it that liberals somehow feel the need for this, but conservatives - aka white nationalists, white supremacists, fascists, alt.right, etc. - do not? I don't think Fox even tries anymore to keep a token liberal on tv. I'm not sure about the WSJ or National Review, buy my guess is that the opinion pages are populated by the so-called conservatives.
Let's face it folks, neither side is going to be persuaded by the other. Have you ever heard a conservative viewpoint that made you sit up and think, hey, that may be a good idea? And conservatives, despite the deleterious effect that their leaders' policies have on them, will not make the switch. (My bet is that it will be greater Dem turnout, not conservative turncoats, that change the balance of power in 2018 and 2020.)
What makes matters worse, of course, is that the so-called conservative viewpoints are not conservative, but rather very, very extremist. Execute women who have abortions. Black traders created slavery. Blacks are not as smart as whites. All non-whites out. Etc. These are not conservative. These are extremist and vile. They are fascists and violent. And they don't deserve a place a the table or a role in the discussion or a chance to lecture to students at universities (see the video today of the white nationalist professor who was caught out by a student with a laptop, and still stood firm on his support of the confederacy.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)"Pro life" zealots is mind boggling.
procon
(15,805 posts)Meaning this person still -- right now, today! -- holds the ideas that he can violently murder women who want to determine their own futures and disagree with his extremist, forced pregnancy ideas.
What a sicko! He should not be in any position that affords him contact with the public.
wolfie001
(2,264 posts)Most of 'em are.
meadowlander
(4,402 posts)"Controversial" implies that you could find someone who wasn't batshit crazy to defend them.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)I guess anyone defending the term in that context could split hairs, though. A "controversy" about exactly how to deal with the situation, for example.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)No, adopted children? Not part of the solution, just a woman hater. Go back to 4Chan and feel sorry for yourself for not having some model wife, that you believe you deserve.
DFW
(54,436 posts)Unless he's a vegetarian and an active opponent of the death penalty (bets, anyone?), then he is NOT "pro-life." He is merely against the rights of women to have an abortion. I'll bet he IS all for his right to get them pregnant, though.....
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Thank you, DFW. I don't tweet, but if I did, I'd follow you.
🚙 (in my Jeep even!)
DFW
(54,436 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 5, 2018, 09:36 PM - Edit history (1)
I did get myself an account way back when, but I almost never use it. I probably haven't tweeted twenty times since I opened the account, and that was over 5 years ago. That account is more dormant than an Iowa volcano.
irisblue
(33,019 posts)I'd seen the tweet about his hiring last week(?). I'd sent a LTE Goldberg asking ~why~ the Atlantic was hiring him.
The lady at the sub# said they had been getting a lot of calls about Williamson.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)I hope he's reduced to scavenging returnable bottles to make a living.
Blue_Tires
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Thekaspervote
(32,788 posts)Aristus
(66,446 posts)Guess which one happened first?
Ah, justice...
dawg day
(7,947 posts)They didn't need to go with someone like this. We really need to learn that being rightwing is often only a surface varnish over being nasty pustules of hate.
FSogol
(45,524 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 5, 2018, 08:23 PM - Edit history (1)
Really doesn't scream editor in chief or ceo.
drray23
(7,637 posts)Now, picture this guy with a gun. Sorry, I shot them in the heat of the moment.. exactly the type of person who is perpetually angry with no impulse control. Firing an "intemperate" tweet just got him fired. I hope he won't end up in a situation where his temper makes him do something tragic.
lindysalsagal
(20,726 posts)"Because killing is right, because killing is wrong."
Right. So simple.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)So, what should we do to the men who get them pregnant? What about the men who get women pregnant and then refuse to provide for the child/children? What should we do to men like J.J. Redick who allegedly asked/pushed/forced a woman to get an abortion? What should we do to men like those who were willing to arrange and pay for the abortions of college athletes? What should we do to the coaches who looked the other way as women were encouraged to get abortions so that an athlete would not have the burden of taking care of a child.
I do not hate male athletes. I actually fairly like male athletes. I am just asking because I have heard a few stories about how team and coaches have arranged for women to have abortions. If we are supposed to punish the women; what are we supposed to do to the men? What are we supposed to do to all the people who helped allow the abortion to happen?
bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,601 posts)They need to all mind their own business.
They should consider signing pledges promising to knock-up only fellow imbeciles who actually want to bear their cretins, and protect them for the rest of their dreary lives.
irisblue
(33,019 posts)That he did say & believe this, how could any think this?
" It turns out Williamsons women-should-be-hanged comment wasnt just an offhand tweet. In a 2014 episode of a National Review podcast, Williamson said he was absolutely willing to see abortion treated like a regular homicide under the criminal code, adding, I would totally go with treating it like any other crime up to and including hanging. He later explained his preference for hanging: Im kind of squishy about capital punishment in general, but Ive got a soft spot for hanging as a form of capital punishment. I tend to think that things like lethal injection are a little too antiseptic"