Ted Lieu tears into Trump for putting blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack: ...
Source: The Hill
Ted Lieu tears into Trump for putting blame on Obama after alleged chemical attack: You're the president now, remember?
BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 04/08/18 11:21 AM EDT
Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) tore into President Trump after he put blame on former President Obama following reports of a chemical attack in Syria.
Link to tweet
The comments come after dozens of people reportedly died and hundreds were reported injured Saturday in an alleged chemical attack in Syria.
State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said in a statement that U.S. officials are closely following the disturbing reports regarding another alleged chemical weapons attack, this time targeting a hospital in Douma, Syria.
Trump took to Twitter Sunday to condemn the attacks and rail against Obama.
Read more: http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/382167-ted-lieu-tears-into-trump-for-putting-blame-on-obama-after-alleged
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)wish my Congressman would do the same.
Botany
(70,516 posts)... and now with Putin's puppet, Trump, in the White House he has gone back to them.
7962
(11,841 posts)And too many places to hide them.
Since trump calls out Pres Obama on not following thru with the "red line" threat, lets see what HE will do. I'm betting jack shit. At least, nothing that will actually HURT Asaad. You wanna prove a point hot shot? Take out Assads Air Force. That will make a statement. But trump is a weak minded loser; easily led by others.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)The fact is the US got and destroyed 1200 tons of chemical weapons. Think about that ... 1200 tons .. and it was the US that destroyed them, so we know that no games were played with that amount. I can find many links to Kerry saying during the interval when the destruction was being done -- that sure, they could be hiding some. I suspect that EVERYONE in that region is better off that Assad lost 1200 tons of chemical weapons - especially because the country was unstable and lost some areas to ISIS.
In a 60 Minutes interview after Kerry and Lavrov made that negotiation and got the UN resolution that supported it, Kerry responded that it was very unlikely that an attack of the nature planned would have done anywhere near as much as this to reduce the thread of future uses of sarin gas.
The thing that most angered me with the media when Trump had his 49 tomahawk attack that accomplished nothing - other than closing the airfield for less than a week and costing the US the cost of 49 tomahawk missiles - was that Obama failed "because he did not get ALL the chemical weapons"
In the first place, we don't know that. In the last 3 years, they could have smuggled in more - sold by whom I don't know - but there is a country called Russia who regularly sends in military planes. Not to mention, they could have manufactured more having build new plants. It is also possible that they hid some -- but the reality is that if not for the diplomacy there would have been 1200 more tons. I suspect that these claims come from people pushing for regime change and wanting the US to lead it.
Obama NEVER spoke of "taking out" the Assad's air force. In the very early stages of the Syrian war, many Obama administration people spoke of how it would have been much more difficult to control the Syrian airspace vs the Libyan air space. In addition, Russia had a Navy base there. Even then, it was not going to happen -- and the Assad position is far stronger now and Russia has far more of a presence making that impossible.
My concern is that Trump IS a weak minded loser .. and the people leading him might tell him to try to take out Assad's air force or other steps that will pull us front and center into a civil war where there are bad guys on many sides.
7962
(11,841 posts)They know they are powerless to stop the coalition (us) from taking out Assad's chemical forces or Air Force or both. The reason they pulled out their main air forces is because their shit doesnt work very well over there. They'll certainly continue to back up Assad, but their main weapon is that trump LOVEs him some Putin.
I'm expecting another attack on an empty airfield. Or open desert. Backed by some BS story about a "hidden stockpile" being taken out
karynnj
(59,504 posts)of the chemical weapons -- which 1200 tons certainly was. (In fact, it might have been all of it and more was imported or manufactured in the following years.) As to taking out the air force, everything I read from the US military and the State Department in the Obama years - especially the last term, suggests that would not be easy. Not to mention, it would put us smack in the middle of the civil war.
Even people in the Obama administration who wanted to use a military option or even the credible threat of a military option were not for anything that significant. There is also the problem of "what next" if we helped with regime change. Who are the people who could come together and form a government in Syria. Near the end of the Obama years, there was a Syrian dissent memo at the State Department signed by 51 State Department diplomats. Secretary Kerry did meet with them to explain Obama's decisions and hear them out. This NYT article describes what the memo - note that what they asked for was far short of taking out Assad's air fields. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/world/middleeast/syria-assad-obama-diplomats-memo.html The goal was NOT regime change, but as pressure to help the US negotiate - something the then Secreatry was very strongly committed to doing. (Now, the question is what diplomats do we have involved?)
One issue that Obama had was - what is the US interest there? If other powerful countries are the ones with a vested interest there, why are we being the ones asked UNILATERALLY to get rid of Assad, without a UN resolution. If Assad was charged as a war criminal, which he is, then we might have some ability under international law to respond as you suggest, but even then, it should be an international effort.
7962
(11,841 posts)I imagine at the end of the trump yrs the situation there will probably be the same as it is now; a mess.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)I think this is something the US can not fix on its own - no matter who is President, Secretary etc. That is something incredibly difficult for any American to accept - it is contrary to our own mythology.
We actually had fewer high cards than the other main players -- and this has been true since their civil war started.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Vinca
(50,278 posts)Trump is the most vile, disgusting POS to ever hold public office. He has no intelligence, no interest, no class, no compassion . . . nothing. He's a caricature of a human being.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)I still have not found that spark of humanity that all humans should have. Still haven't found one good in him.
And him crowing-- after someone died- about how well-built the building was?
All of the above.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)When Obama drew a 'red line' about Syria using chemical weapons,
it was the GOP led Congress that blocked him.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Railing against him might or might not have an effect on his demeanor and (alleged) mental health, but surely there is a more definitive and permanent step or two that can be taken?
videohead5
(2,177 posts)Some Republicans in congress said if he did not come to them first for approval they would start impeachment hearings.there was no support for the bombing.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)DJT is one of those people that believe attacking others makes him look better. If he only knew it confirms our belief that he is a stupid, ignorant, arrogant fool. He attacks people that are smarter, more educated and just plain better human beings.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Need more of this. Cheeto is the absolute nadir of Presidential leadership. He never has a coherent plan, its just endlesss bs. He is the POTUS but he is really nothing but a snotty rich baby man.
It is amazingly that the rightist in this country are so full of bravado for their Americanism yet the man they worship wont assume ownership and accountability for anything. The polar opposite of a responsible adult.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)my go to Trump response
still_one
(92,219 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)sdfernando
(4,935 posts)I ask because I'm a naturalized US Citizen as well, but both my parents were US citizens by birth. I was born in Munich, even though it was an Army hospital, It was not on a military base, it was located in the city of Munich. So I was born on foreign soil, hence the naturalization part.....but apparently the interpretation changed along the way (remember all the talk when John McCain ran?). At any rate, apparently I am eligible to run for President. That would be cool because we would have national health care to include medical, dental, vision,and hearing, and medically SAFE abortion; free education all the way up to at least a Bachelor's degree; major tax credits for solar & wind and an end to oil and coal subsidies; i'd lobby for the ERA; strict national gun control laws; and just to piss of the right....LIBERAL ACTIVIST JUDGES at every level.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)so is not eligible. Would make a great attorney general, though.