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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 05:08 PM Apr 2018

Drug testing plan considered for some food stamp recipients

Source: Associated Press




By JULIET LINDERMAN and JONATHAN LEMIRE
31 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is considering a plan that would allow states to require certain food stamp recipients to undergo drug testing, handing a win to conservatives who’ve long sought ways to curb the safety net program.

The proposal under review would be narrowly targeted, applying mostly to people who are able-bodied, without dependents and applying for some specialized jobs, according to an administration official briefed on the plan. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said roughly 5 percent of participants in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program could be affected.

The drug testing proposal is another step in the Trump administration’s push to allow states more flexibility in how they implement federal programs that serve the poor, unemployed or uninsured. It also wants to allow states to tighten work requirements for food stamp recipients and has found support among GOP governors who argue greater state control saves money and reduces dependency.

Internal emails obtained by The Associated Press indicated that Agriculture Department officials in February were awaiting word from the White House about the timing of a possible drug testing announcement.

Read more: https://apnews.com/6f5adff5efeb4f9a9075f76bf9cf5572

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Drug testing plan considered for some food stamp recipients (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
Same shit Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #1
Mine are $15. I wonder how much a drug test costs? notdarkyet Apr 2018 #16
Hang in there. G'wan be al'right. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #17
can we drug test that crazy asshole in the White House PLEASE??? Skittles Apr 2018 #2
Which one? Jedi Guy Apr 2018 #19
Maybe somebody should tell those nitwits that action has been tried and it was a huge failure tonyt53 Apr 2018 #3
Why do they keep beating these people when they're down?? Ohiogal Apr 2018 #4
I have always said, when repugs say "choices" and "flexibility" louis-t Apr 2018 #11
That is a defining characteristic of conservative politics; King_Klonopin Apr 2018 #20
What 7 states discovered after spending more than $1 million drug testing welfare recipients... AKing Apr 2018 #5
statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the gene riversedge Apr 2018 #14
Can the entire bunch sitting in the white house get drug tested.................... turbinetree Apr 2018 #6
More money for owners of testing agencies Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #7
So addicts are supposed to starve? C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #8
Their kids and other dependants too. meadowlander Apr 2018 #25
I'm pretty sure that here in Wisconsin a drug conviction makes you ineligible for food stamps. elocs Apr 2018 #26
They're still hanging their hats on drug testing? louis-t Apr 2018 #9
"applying for some specialized jobs" backtoblue Apr 2018 #10
Reading is your friend.... MichMan Apr 2018 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author backtoblue Apr 2018 #22
People applying for those jobs get drug tested anyway jmowreader Apr 2018 #27
But domestic violence batterers in the White House are still okay dameatball Apr 2018 #12
Unjustified plunder of govt. funds away from those in need. Scam & disgrace. appalachiablue Apr 2018 #13
I think all our politicians should be drug tested before they get federal benefits. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #15
They don't expect them to live, Mendocino Apr 2018 #18
They claim to follow Christ but despise the poor radliberal Apr 2018 #23
TRUMPS EXECUTIVE ORDER ON WORK REQUIREMENTS PUNISHES LOW-INCOME PEOPLE FOR BEING POOR Judi Lynn Apr 2018 #24
In my state, I wonder if theyll drug test the 5,800 teachers and police on food stamps? Hoyt Apr 2018 #28

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
1. Same shit
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 05:10 PM
Apr 2018

another day. When the gop get in hot water...attack the safety nets. The kid next door says his food stamps(?) are down to 15.00 a month. That cow has left the barn it seems.

Jedi Guy

(3,190 posts)
19. Which one?
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 08:14 PM
Apr 2018

Sadly, there are several people in the White House that can be described as "crazy assholes."

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
3. Maybe somebody should tell those nitwits that action has been tried and it was a huge failure
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 05:16 PM
Apr 2018

Less than 1%. Multiple states have tried it, all with the same results.

Ohiogal

(31,999 posts)
4. Why do they keep beating these people when they're down??
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 05:17 PM
Apr 2018

Food stamps are so meager to begin with, practically a dollar a day. Republicans just have to stick their thumb in your eye.

I hate when journalist or politicians use that word "flexibility" -- it almost always means "screw the poor even more".

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
20. That is a defining characteristic of conservative politics;
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:13 AM
Apr 2018

THEY ALWAYS PUNCH DOWN !

It also happens to be a defining characteristic of bullies and cowards.

You can see the pattern clearly if you make a list of their favorite targets:

The poor (i.e. people who rely on "welfare", food stamps, Medicaid, etc.)
The "working poor", who try to live on peanuts, and their related labor unions
Women; especially single women with children
Minorities
Immigrants
People who are LGBTQ
The disabled
And now, the latest addition, the students who are protesting gun violence.

I think another characteristic is that they suppress any feelings of sadness,
pity, empathy, or compassion. Fear and anger rule the day, all day long.

riversedge

(70,220 posts)
14. statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the gene
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 06:36 PM
Apr 2018

Repugs will ignore this.

The statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the general population.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
6. Can the entire bunch sitting in the white house get drug tested....................
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 05:18 PM
Apr 2018

and then move on over to the cabinet, then down and across the street move into the Congress, then make a left and then go to the senate------------because these fuckers get to just eat on the taxpayers dime, and I think they should get drugged tested.................fuck this happy horse shit...............

How and the hell do we not know what you are doing with our paychecks to you fuckers............I mean really, that should be a litmus test .

Because the sexual predator is always trying to clear his fascist little nose when he speaks...........ever notice............

Paul "ayn rand" Ryan must have made a call....................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
25. Their kids and other dependants too.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:34 PM
Apr 2018

Sorry Johnny, no ramen for you this week. Mommy's painkillers for her service/work-related injury tripped the drug test.

elocs

(22,576 posts)
26. I'm pretty sure that here in Wisconsin a drug conviction makes you ineligible for food stamps.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:16 PM
Apr 2018

I am a retired senior so I will be exempt from any work requirements. I am under the 100% federal poverty level, live in my own house, and get $32/month in food stamps, down from $39 in January because I got a $15 cost of living increase for Social Security. They must have figured the cost of food went down.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
9. They're still hanging their hats on drug testing?
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 05:27 PM
Apr 2018

They know it doesn't solve anything, it's just that they hate poor people so much they feel the need to constantly humiliate them.

MichMan

(11,929 posts)
21. Reading is your friend....
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:33 AM
Apr 2018

from the link

"The plan would apply to able-bodied people who do not have dependents and are applying for certain jobs, such as operating heavy machinery, the official said."

Response to MichMan (Reply #21)

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
27. People applying for those jobs get drug tested anyway
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:05 PM
Apr 2018

So...are they actually planning to drug test anyone new, or is this just another sword of Damocles hanging over the poor's head?

Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
24. TRUMPS EXECUTIVE ORDER ON WORK REQUIREMENTS PUNISHES LOW-INCOME PEOPLE FOR BEING POOR
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:56 PM
Apr 2018

TRUMP’S EXECUTIVE ORDER ON WORK REQUIREMENTS PUNISHES LOW-INCOME PEOPLE FOR BEING POOR
April 12, 2018

President Trump is quietly curtailing access to social safety nets for our nation’s most vulnerable people.

The executive order he signed this week requiring federal agencies to establish or strengthen work requirements for social services — and reports that his administration is considering a proposal that would allow states to require drug testing for food stamp recipients — is not only heartless, it’s also based on false premises, including the assumption that poor people do not work.

In fact, most low-income adults who are able to work do, and many of the social programs that serve their needs already have work requirements. What’s more, most of the people who receive social services and don’t work are children, elderly or disabled.

There is no evidence that making it harder for poor people to access social programs will reduce poverty.

More:
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2018/04/12/trump%E2%80%99s-executive-order-work-requirements-punishes-low-income-people-being-poor

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