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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 08:54 PM Apr 2018

Bannon pitches White House on plan to cripple Mueller probe and protect Trump

Source: Washington Post

Stephen K. Bannon, who was ousted as White House chief strategist last summer but has remained in touch with some members of President Trump’s circle, is pitching a plan to West Wing aides and congressional allies to cripple the federal probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to four people familiar with the discussions.

The first step, these people say, would be for Trump to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees the work of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and in recent days signed off on a search warrant of Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.

Bannon is also recommending the White House cease its cooperation with Mueller, reversing the policy of Trump’s legal team to provide information to the special counsel’s team and to allow staff members to sit for interviews.

And he is telling associates inside and outside the administration that the president should create a new legal battleground to protect himself from the investigation by asserting executive privilege — and arguing that Mueller’s interviews with White House officials over the past year should now be null and void.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-pitches-white-house-on-plan-to-cripple-mueller-probe-and-protect-trump/2018/04/11/1ec5b1b2-3d9f-11e8-a7d1-e4efec6389f0_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.beca9fbf3931

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Bannon pitches White House on plan to cripple Mueller probe and protect Trump (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Apr 2018 OP
Did Bannon get his law degree at Trump University? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #1
My guess is that he already is in the net & this is his CYA Crash2Parties Apr 2018 #11
Yeah Any Litigator Would Get a Good Laugh--You Have to Assert a Specific Privilege and Withhold... Stallion Apr 2018 #21
Exactly. Executive privilege can't be asserted retroactively The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #25
Thanks for the good info. This got Bannon in the news, though, Hortensis Apr 2018 #37
*he is telling associates inside and outside the administration* - like who, besides liddle Leghorn21 Apr 2018 #2
Listen you worthless walking herpes sore. Your 15 minutes are up. Kindly Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2018 #3
LOL! jrthin Apr 2018 #6
I'm afraid volstork Apr 2018 #13
Well said! Mike Drop! chuckstevens Apr 2018 #14
Nonsensical "plan". Unlikely to happen and won't work. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #4
3) Previously given testimony can't be retracted. That train has left the station. Botany Apr 2018 #42
I thought he was maybe thinking Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #5
Hey, drunk boy.... paleotn Apr 2018 #7
So disruption of our Justice system SCVDem Apr 2018 #8
Bannon Advises Obstruction Of Justice Progressive2020 Apr 2018 #9
Yes, he could do all those things bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #10
Bannon, yonder Apr 2018 #12
What are the chances... concreteblue Apr 2018 #15
Pretty danged high. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2018 #34
Another Bannon genius idea. NOMOGOP Apr 2018 #16
Bannon was front and center in the election backtoblue Apr 2018 #28
FBI agents say Damn It. Corgigal Apr 2018 #17
He's another one that should be under house-arrest bluestarone Apr 2018 #18
His plan seems to be openly obstructing justice. nt Gore1FL Apr 2018 #19
In the South we have two words for Gin-Blossom Bannon's rantings .. DemoTex Apr 2018 #20
Apparently Bannon has a Delorean and a Flux Capacitor C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #22
would executive privilege cover anything that happened before Lord Dampnut took the oath of office? cab67 Apr 2018 #23
Nope. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #26
A meth-odical plan, I'm sure... Blue Owl Apr 2018 #24
Sounds like a case of attempted obstruction of justice. cstanleytech Apr 2018 #27
That's a wonderful plan. Then everyone in the world will know 45's sinkingfeeling Apr 2018 #29
Cannot wait until Mueler cripples Bannon with an indictment. marble falls Apr 2018 #30
Might as well have Gump hop on a unicorn and fly to another dimension. John Fante Apr 2018 #31
Another Legend in His Own Mind! dchill Apr 2018 #32
Poor Steve. moondust Apr 2018 #33
Give the boy a break. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2018 #36
Wait. Didn't Mueller interview Bannon? DeminPennswoods Apr 2018 #35
I was thinking the same thing . . . . . no_hypocrisy Apr 2018 #38
Bannon thrives on chaos BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #40
That's how I've always perceived him. cab67 Apr 2018 #43
"He's a nihilist." BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #44
Good grief gademocrat7 Apr 2018 #39
Good idea Steve Botany Apr 2018 #41

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
1. Did Bannon get his law degree at Trump University?
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 08:58 PM
Apr 2018

He'd better be careful that he doesn't end up in Mueller's net with the rest of the reprobates. Sounds to me like he's doubling down on obstruction of justice.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
21. Yeah Any Litigator Would Get a Good Laugh--You Have to Assert a Specific Privilege and Withhold...
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:57 PM
Apr 2018

document from production. If that happened Justice Department would request a Privilege Log identifying date, sender, recipient and general description of document sufficient for Justice Department to determine the applicability of the stated privilege. If the defendant didn't establish the prima facie (on its face) applicability of the stated privilege then the Justice Department could file a Motion to Compel requesting that the Court compel production or at least review the document in camera (ie in Court by Judge) to determine whether the document was privileged. Once the judge ruled the losing party might seek to appeal the ruling. But right now the cat is out of the bag. There is a small exception for privileged documents mistakenly produced by accident but not when voluntarily produced without assertion of privilege. This scenario plays out in almost 100% of major litigation.

Bannon proves he's a Buffoon-Magna Cum Laude graduate of Trump Law School

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
25. Exactly. Executive privilege can't be asserted retroactively
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:08 PM
Apr 2018

and most of these communications probably wouldn't qualify anyhow.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Thanks for the good info. This got Bannon in the news, though,
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:03 AM
Apr 2018

no doubt appealing to the crazies he wanted to, including Trump? My guess is this is brand promotion. His product is chaos and destruction of western liberal democracy. And while Trump's still in the WH...

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
2. *he is telling associates inside and outside the administration* - like who, besides liddle
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 08:59 PM
Apr 2018

Stevie Miller? Who is listening to/associating with this powerhouse of multiple shirt-wearing weirdness??

Oy!!

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,502 posts)
3. Listen you worthless walking herpes sore. Your 15 minutes are up. Kindly
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:00 PM
Apr 2018

go fuck off and find a nice spot to decompose.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,033 posts)
4. Nonsensical "plan". Unlikely to happen and won't work.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:03 PM
Apr 2018

1) Mueller has lots of info from lots of sources.

2) White House info is owned by the people and cannot be withheld from the people's representative (Mueller) doing the people's business (law enforcement investigation).

3) Previously given testimony can't be retracted. That train has left the station.

paleotn

(17,946 posts)
7. Hey, drunk boy....
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:10 PM
Apr 2018

Get a shave and a haircut. And while you're at it, some marbles. Prior testimony is like the proverbial horse that's left the barn. Closing the barn door won't change one damn thing. Idiot. I so hope Mueller burns his sorry ass down.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
8. So disruption of our Justice system
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:12 PM
Apr 2018

is legal?

Attempting to mess up our democratic system is also legal?

This is bullshit!

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
9. Bannon Advises Obstruction Of Justice
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:12 PM
Apr 2018

I think that Executive Privilege might be like Attorney-Client Privilege- not valid if used to cover a crime. Bannon would be much smarter to get out and stay out of the entire matter, unless he wants to expose himself to legal liability, like Obstruction of Justice.

bucolic_frolic

(43,258 posts)
10. Yes, he could do all those things
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:14 PM
Apr 2018

but the time to do it was 15 months ago. Politically, now, it won't play with the public, it won't play with Democrats on Capitol Hill, it won't play with moderate Republicans who have just gone along to get along. It's the plot for a fantasy novel. It's political jujitsu that cannot be injected into a hyper-polarized, hyper-political body politic. Nixon tried it, and no one really understood what was happening at the time. Without WaPo Nixon might have succeeded.

Trump only has credibility with Fox News and his base. His tweets are a lasting record of his intentions and crookery. Smothering the investigation will produce impeachment and mass demonstrations. It would be over before the strategy reached MTP.

 

NOMOGOP

(87 posts)
16. Another Bannon genius idea.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:26 PM
Apr 2018

Perhaps Steve should be told that, by far the most serious of the allegations including Treason, Money Laundering, Bank Fraud, etc.etc.etc. are FAR more serious than the Obstruction charge that was committed while he was in office. The rest of this crap is a financial enema into a 40 year crime family history that is the Trump crime family and has nothing to do with any "executive privilege" that he believes the orange genius can hide behind. BTW, what were YOU doing before election. Oh, that's right, committing felonies while working with/for Cambridge Analytica w/the Mercers.

backtoblue

(11,345 posts)
28. Bannon was front and center in the election
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:32 PM
Apr 2018

Cambridge Analytica, et al.

He knows his dirty laundry is about to be aired out. Sending an S.O.S to trump to try to save his own butt.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
17. FBI agents say Damn It.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:27 PM
Apr 2018

As they get into their jump suits and get into the black SUV's.

Another long day.

DemoTex

(25,400 posts)
20. In the South we have two words for Gin-Blossom Bannon's rantings ..
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:51 PM
Apr 2018

Liquor talk.

Sober up dude. Enter a program. Go to meetings. Get a life.

sinkingfeeling

(51,470 posts)
29. That's a wonderful plan. Then everyone in the world will know 45's
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:41 PM
Apr 2018

guilty of multiple crimes and the entire administration is totally corrupt and treasonous.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
31. Might as well have Gump hop on a unicorn and fly to another dimension.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:49 PM
Apr 2018

That's about as realistic as Bannon's proposals. And this drunken buffoon is considered an intellectual? Only by the reich-wing's impossibly low standards.

dchill

(38,519 posts)
32. Another Legend in His Own Mind!
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 12:30 AM
Apr 2018

A Stabler Genius! A retroactive privilege-r. A bucket of radioactive pus.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
33. Poor Steve.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 01:52 AM
Apr 2018

He's so dumb and starved for attention that he either doesn't know or doesn't care that it's a bad idea to publicize his goofy little plot to have the pResident of the United States obstruct justice.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
36. Give the boy a break.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 05:01 AM
Apr 2018

He's just trying to up the web site hits on Breitbart so he can pay the bill at the liquor store.

.........

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
35. Wait. Didn't Mueller interview Bannon?
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 04:49 AM
Apr 2018

And didn't Bannon publically say he fully cooperated and told Mueller "everything"?

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
40. Bannon thrives on chaos
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:55 AM
Apr 2018

so he plays both sides against the middle to keep the discord going.

Sometimes I stop to wonder how people are born and raised and eventually evolve to become a person like this, a literal Faust.

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