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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:04 AM Apr 2018

Cops: Accused incest couple, their infant dead in apparent multi-state murder-suicide

Source: CBS



NEW MILFORD, Conn. -- Police in three states are investigating the apparent murder-suicide deaths of a father and daughter accused of incest, their infant son, and the woman's adoptive father.

Police in Knightdale, N.C. say they responded to a home around 9 a.m. where Steven Pladl, 45, and his biological daughter Katie Pladl, 20, were living when they were arrested on incest charges out of Henrico County, Va. in January. There, they found 7-month-old Bennett Pladl dead in a suspected homicide. No one else was in the home.

About 20 minutes earlier, 600 miles north in New Milford, Conn., police responded to a report of a shooting and found a man and a woman dead in a pickup truck with New York plates, the victims of a double homicide. Police developed information on a suspect vehicle, and when New York state troopers found the minivan several miles away across the state line in Dover, the suspected gunman was found inside -- dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Speaking at a press conference Wednesday, Knightdale Police Chief Lawrence Capps confirmed the victims killed in the pickup truck were Katie Pladl and her adoptive father 56-year-old Anthony Fusco, and that the man who killed himself in New York was Steven Pladl. Knightdale police confirmed to Crimesider that Steven Pladl is suspected in the death of his infant son in North Carolina.



Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-infant-death-at-n-c-home-of-accused-incest-couple-linked-to-ct-ny-shootings/

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Cops: Accused incest couple, their infant dead in apparent multi-state murder-suicide (Original Post) ansible Apr 2018 OP
I confess, I did not... Mike Nelson Apr 2018 #1
Girl's bio parents gave the child up for adoption. LisaL Apr 2018 #2
The biological father and daughter were married. yardwork Apr 2018 #3
Wouldn't have been a legal marriage since fathers and daughters aren't allowed to legally marry. LisaL Apr 2018 #4
That's probably why they were both arrested. yardwork Apr 2018 #6
Shouldnt This Be A Job RobinA Apr 2018 #12
I agree that social services should have been more involved janterry Apr 2018 #18
Do you actually know if they were or weren't? LisaL Apr 2018 #20
It sounds like you have a personal reason to be so involved with this issue janterry Apr 2018 #21
Not sure what you are trying to imply there. LisaL Apr 2018 #24
Incest is illegal in almost all states. LisaL Apr 2018 #19
So What? RobinA Apr 2018 #22
You do something illegal, you get arrested. That's generally how it works. LisaL Apr 2018 #23
I Prefer RobinA Apr 2018 #25
Apparently his daughter/wife broke up with him, which resulted in him going off the deep end. LisaL Apr 2018 #26
She needed a domestic violence shelter at minimum WhiteTara Apr 2018 #28
She was living in a different state from him at the time of murders. LisaL Apr 2018 #29
Okay, Lisal, you win WhiteTara Apr 2018 #30
Not sure what I am supposed to win, but he wasn't accused of domestic violence prior to this. LisaL Apr 2018 #32
Like I said WhiteTara Apr 2018 #33
I agree with you janterry Apr 2018 #31
The adoptive parents were present at what ever kind of ceremony the father and daughter had lunasun Apr 2018 #27
That poor girl ..... BigOleDummy Apr 2018 #5
Shoulda moved to West Virginia Orange Free State Apr 2018 #7
Haw, haw, haw. Any more offensive stereotypes you'd like to post about? FSogol Apr 2018 #8
Because some prejudices are acceptable, apparently. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2018 #10
No, just that one. Orange Free State Apr 2018 #11
I really wish there had been a different intervention janterry Apr 2018 #9
What treatment shelter? LisaL Apr 2018 #13
I was thinking of a battered women's shelter as a model janterry Apr 2018 #14
She want back to living with her adoptive parents. LisaL Apr 2018 #15
I don't know the details janterry Apr 2018 #16
She had a place to live which was with her adoptive parents. LisaL Apr 2018 #17

Mike Nelson

(9,958 posts)
1. I confess, I did not...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:30 AM
Apr 2018

...click on the story. When looking at the photos, the man and woman looked more like brother and sister. Reading about the "biological" father and "adoptive" father was interesting - so, I'm guessing my follow-up thought was also wrong. How sad for all...

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
2. Girl's bio parents gave the child up for adoption.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:33 AM
Apr 2018

She found them and moved in when she turned 18. The bio dad and the daughter were later accused of incest.
Now bio dad allegedly killed her, their child, and her adoptive father.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
4. Wouldn't have been a legal marriage since fathers and daughters aren't allowed to legally marry.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:45 AM
Apr 2018

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
12. Shouldnt This Be A Job
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 09:24 PM
Apr 2018

for social services, not law enforcement? Arresting of age people for incest?

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
18. I agree that social services should have been more involved
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:33 PM
Apr 2018

They needed a treatment oriented intervention (and, apparently, a safety plan for the girl and the baby)

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
20. Do you actually know if they were or weren't?
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:38 PM
Apr 2018

Baby was living neither with him nor with her when baby was killed.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
22. So What?
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:48 PM
Apr 2018

Four people are dead, including an innocent baby and a probably innocent adoptive Dad. People who get themselves in messes like this tend to be fragile and need to be handled, not arrested.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
25. I Prefer
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:11 PM
Apr 2018

to solve problems with as few resulting tragedies as possible. Black and white thinking and human behavior rarely go well together.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
26. Apparently his daughter/wife broke up with him, which resulted in him going off the deep end.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

How do you propose to solve that problem?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
29. She was living in a different state from him at the time of murders.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 06:19 PM
Apr 2018

There are also no reports that he was violent prior to this.
What would be the "real rescue plan" here?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
32. Not sure what I am supposed to win, but he wasn't accused of domestic violence prior to this.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 07:00 PM
Apr 2018

So there would be no reason to believe he was going to do what he is accused of doing. Their bond conditions required them to stay away from each other. They weren't even living in the same state.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
27. The adoptive parents were present at what ever kind of ceremony the father and daughter had
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:24 PM
Apr 2018

for marriage. I found that an additional wierd .

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
5. That poor girl .....
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:14 AM
Apr 2018

... never had a chance. This sad story has no winners but only losers in the game of life. But again, more death from anger, shame, fear and easily available cheap firearms. Betting it was a pistol.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
7. Shoulda moved to West Virginia
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 08:24 AM
Apr 2018

No one would have batted an eye there over that kind of relationship, and everyone would still be alive.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
8. Haw, haw, haw. Any more offensive stereotypes you'd like to post about?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 08:42 AM
Apr 2018

Note that the folks in this article are from that well-know hotbed of incest, New Milford, Connecticut. Why drag West VA into it?

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
11. No, just that one.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:57 AM
Apr 2018

I do apologize. I know many people from West Virginia, in fact my son was born there, and only a few of them are in incestuous relationships.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
9. I really wish there had been a different intervention
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 09:43 AM
Apr 2018

Put the girl and her son in a treatment shelter - with counseling.

Mandatory intervention for bio-father (with counseling).

As a society we have a vested interest in incest laws - (I'm certainly not arguing against them)
but sometimes a legal intervention just doesn't seem like the best thing



 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
14. I was thinking of a battered women's shelter as a model
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:14 AM
Apr 2018

I've seen some that actually worked with young mother's to help them learn parenting (and in this case would have had the capacity to work with her on why her choices were.....well, not the best).

She needed a major treatment intervention no matter what - if anything in her life (or her son's) was going to 'work'.

But - as it was - nothing worked - and the dad did what he did.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
15. She want back to living with her adoptive parents.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:03 PM
Apr 2018

Apparently she also informed her bio dad/husband she was breaking up with him.
I don't see any reason to believe that this wouldn't have happened if she were in a shelter instead.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
16. I don't know the details
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:22 PM
Apr 2018

- certainly not nearly enough to make any kind of informed judgment about the case. But I would add that shelter addresses are closely held (no one is supposed to know the exact location of the shelter) and staff are trained to help ensure that they are secure. The women are not allowed to contact their former partners, for instance, because - as you know - when you leave a a relationship - that's the most difficult time for a woman.

Perhaps she just needed to be taught some of the basics. She had no way of knowing that this was a dangerous moment for her - most professionals, otoh, would have known that this was a possibility.

But more than that, my point was just that she needed an intervention and treatment - and so did he.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
17. She had a place to live which was with her adoptive parents.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:24 PM
Apr 2018

Her father/husband was supposed to be living in a different state.

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