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highplainsdem

(48,990 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:51 PM Apr 2018

Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein tells confidantes he is prepared to be fired

Source: NBC

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has struck a stoic and righteous tone in private conversations he has had this week about the fate of his job as President Donald Trump has launched public criticism against him and considered firing him, according to three sources who have spoken to Rosenstein.

In those conversations, he has repeated the phrase, "Here I stand," a reference to Martin Luther's famous quote, "Here I stand, I can do no other." Coincidentally, former FBI Director James Comey, whom Rosenstein fired, repeated the same phrase to President George W. Bush in a conversation that has been widely reported and that Comey describes in his forthcoming book.

One source who spoke to Rosenstein said he seemed fully aware he may soon lose his job and was at peace with the possibility, confident he had done his job with integrity.

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Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/deputy-ag-rod-rosenstein-tells-confidantes-he-prepared-be-fired-n865596

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Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein tells confidantes he is prepared to be fired (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2018 OP
This will be a constitutional crisis Gothmog Apr 2018 #1
We've been in a Constitutional crisis... Dave Starsky Apr 2018 #2
+1 dalton99a Apr 2018 #3
Yep. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2018 #20
+1 Rainbow Droid Apr 2018 #24
People flooding into the streets. Taraman Apr 2018 #4
Yes. Tweet with Norm Eisen video from MoveOn: highplainsdem Apr 2018 #6
Not unless he directs the replacement to fire Mueller. As it is it is a political crisis. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #7
So in practical terms what does that mean? honest.abe Apr 2018 #13
We've been in a Constitutional crisis since 2000. Dave Starsky Apr 2018 #15
Our Constitution has failed us. jrthin Apr 2018 #5
The Senate has failed us CanonRay Apr 2018 #8
First thing: get rid of the Electoral College. Senate seats already compensate small states. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #9
HELL YES leftynyc Apr 2018 #19
Our Constitution is just fine the way it is. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2018 #21
The Constitution is just fine RandomAccess Apr 2018 #23
And that's the thing, isn't it? What happens when a branch of jrthin Apr 2018 #25
Okay -- let me put it this way -- it's not the Constitution that failed us RandomAccess Apr 2018 #26
Congress needs to get off their butts C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #10
Dem senators are writing legislation that will do just that. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2018 #22
Resist bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #11
and his replacement may try to fire Mueller over the weekend.... dhill926 Apr 2018 #12
Depends on who would be acting Deputy AG.... paleotn Apr 2018 #17
That's funny, duforsure Apr 2018 #14
If we make it to November! /NT sdfernando Apr 2018 #16
Brings to mind Archbald Cox's words after the Saturday Night Massacre.... paleotn Apr 2018 #18
I doubt hes going to have Mueller fired. Calista241 Apr 2018 #27

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
2. We've been in a Constitutional crisis...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:55 PM
Apr 2018

Since the US Supreme Court decided the 2000 Presidential election.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
20. Yep.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:45 PM
Apr 2018

I will never forgive Pelosi for not even talking about impeachment back then. We live with the consequences now.

Everything that happened with Bush has led us here.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
13. So in practical terms what does that mean?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:19 PM
Apr 2018

Will the Founding Fathers come back to life and proclaim Trump an illegitimate President and drag him out of the WH?

Constitutional Crisis sounds really scary but what actually happens when we reach that point?

Seems like we're already in a crisis since day one with this lunatic.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
15. We've been in a Constitutional crisis since 2000.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:45 PM
Apr 2018

That was when the US Supreme Court took the unprecedented step of deciding the Presidential election.

THAT was when the GOP found out that they could completely ignore the rules of the Constitution and basically do whatever the fuck they want, and no one will ever stop them.

Since then, the Constitution has been sort of a set of guidelines that would be nice to follow, but maybe not. "Emoluments clause"?
Get outta here!

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
5. Our Constitution has failed us.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:58 PM
Apr 2018

Written in the Constitution is the checks and balance working. The checks and balances are not working. What are we to do? I sigh.

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
8. The Senate has failed us
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:59 PM
Apr 2018

McConnell has failed us, and possibly doomed the Republic in the process.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. HELL YES
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:32 PM
Apr 2018

HI, ME, NJ, RI, MT, DE, SD, AK, ND, VT, WY - all those states TOGETHER have less people than NY and they get 22 SENATORS while NY gets 2.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Our Constitution is just fine the way it is.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:47 PM
Apr 2018

The people who swore to uphold and defend it, thru lying teeth, THEY are the problem.
 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
23. The Constitution is just fine
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:02 PM
Apr 2018

It's the CONGRESS that isn't upholding their Constitutional responsibilities AND oath of office.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
25. And that's the thing, isn't it? What happens when a branch of
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:47 PM
Apr 2018

government doesn't uphold their oath of office. As we now see, there really doesn't seem to be anything one can do. That's a failure.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
26. Okay -- let me put it this way -- it's not the Constitution that failed us
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 08:02 PM
Apr 2018

but we have failed the Constitution.

And you're wrong (and you know it): THere IS something we can do, and will do: vote them out of office.

FWIW, I think the Democrats are complicit in that they've allowed so much shit to go on unaddressed in years prior to this. But that's another subject. We The People are going to have to demand more of them in future.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
10. Congress needs to get off their butts
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:00 PM
Apr 2018

and move to protect Rosenstein as well.
Trump is a fucking moronic and meanspirited loose cannon. A crook for sure.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. Dem senators are writing legislation that will do just that.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:50 PM
Apr 2018

McConnell will try to block it.

Behind the scenes Mueller is getting a lot of help from folks in Congress.

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
17. Depends on who would be acting Deputy AG....
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:15 PM
Apr 2018

Any permanent replacement would have to be confirmed by the Senate. To fire Mueller, Dumpster would have to go down the list, firing or accepting resignations until he finds his "Bork"...someone willing to do the dirty work. Robert Bork fired special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the "Saturday Night Massacre" in 73.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. That's funny,
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:26 PM
Apr 2018

I was thinking the GOP are in that same position if they do nothing too, we'll fire them all in Nov..

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
18. Brings to mind Archbald Cox's words after the Saturday Night Massacre....
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:16 PM
Apr 2018

"Whether ours shall continue to be a government of laws and not of men is now for Congress and ultimately the American people."

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
27. I doubt hes going to have Mueller fired.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:08 AM
Apr 2018

If i had to guess, he’ll appoint a new deputy AG, and that person will manage the investigation into irrelevance.

They won’t approve new lines of investigations, won’t approve search warrants or indictments. Budgets will get cut, paychecks will be late. Out with a whimper instead of a bang.

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