Isolated and Unnerved, Trump Sees New York Inquiry as Greater Threat Than Mueller
Source: The New York Times
President Trumps advisers have concluded that a wide-ranging corruption investigation in New York poses a greater and more imminent threat to the president than even the special counsels investigation, according to several people close to Mr. Trump.
As his lawyers went to court on Friday to try to block prosecutors from reading files that were seized from his longtime personal lawyer and fixer this week, Mr. Trump found himself increasingly isolated in mounting a response. He continued to struggle to hire a new criminal lawyer, and some of his own aides were reluctant to advise him about a response for fear of being dragged into a criminal investigation themselves.
The raids on Mr. Trumps lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, came as part of a monthslong federal investigation based in New York, court records show, and were sweeping in their breadth. In addition to searching his home, office and hotel room, F.B.I. agents seized material from Mr. Cohens cellphones, tablet, laptop and safe deposit box, according to people briefed on the warrants. Prosecutors revealed in court documents that they had already secretly obtained many of Mr. Cohens emails.
Mr. Trump called Mr. Cohen on Friday to check in, according to two people briefed on the call. Depending on what else was discussed, the call could be problematic, as lawyers typically advise their clients against discussing investigations.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/us/politics/lawyers-for-trumps-personal-attorney-set-for-friday-court-appearance.html
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)marble falls
(57,099 posts)deurbano
(2,895 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Agz3rd0377
(3 posts)What in the world is the president of the United States doing calling Michael Cohen? Was it to say don't worry if convicted I'll pardon you. Oh and has anyone seen the "Comey is my homey" shirts? I want one.
calimary
(81,304 posts)a pardon.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)canetoad
(17,167 posts)Pretty much how many US citizens feel right now. Poetic justice.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)You reacted, exactly as predicted..target getting buggy.
Silly boy.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Irrational people act even more irrationally when backed into a corner
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Can't pardon or fire his way out of a state case.
Sates rights! Isn't that what Republicans always say?
rsdsharp
(9,186 posts)It's in the Southern District of New York. SDNY is a federal court.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)they can be turned over to the state if necessary.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)But with the temporary head of the office recusing himself it sits with career prosecutors, probably harder to fire than Mueller
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)This has nothing to do with the Mueller probe.
They will only be able to use those things that are related to the original search warrant.
The prosecutors will not even see the material until a third party fbi/prosecutor neutral group screens out all the material that is not directly listed in the search warrant.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Since Mr. Cohen operated out of New York, odds are that some of those bank fraud and wire fraud transactions happened there.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)Worst "Star Trek" spinoff ever
I assume that a lot of the evidence picked up by the feds will be useful for AG Schneiderman
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The prosecutors don't get to see what they got.
Because the violation of attorney/client is such a sensitive area all of the material goes to a neutral fbi/prosecutor group that screens out all of the material that is not DIRECTLY related to the search warrant.
Most of the rico type corruption you are referring to is related to the Manafort investigation which is handled by Mueller. This investigation is completely separate arising solely from the Stormy Daniels matters.
Now it is possible in the referral from Mueller to the DOJ there were other things that Mueller included but its unlikely that there is much connection between Cohen and the Russian probe.
paleotn
(17,930 posts)it's about a lot more than just illegal campaign contributions, porn stars and hush money. The sweep is unprecedented in scale and scope when it comes to the personal attorney of a sitting President. Much of what's been picked up in this trawler haul has been turned over to New York state authorities, so says the scuttlebutt.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)They are still being examined by the 'taint team' to separate anything that is covered by privilege before its turned over to federal prosecutors.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Cohen-s-lawyer-seeks-to-review-documents-12832224.php
Searches of lawyers' offices are rare but not unheard of, and prosecutors use what is called a separate "taint team" to review the material and exclude any documents that are covered by the attorney-client privilege.
If they find material that does not involve legal advice between a lawyer and a client, or is exempted from attorney-client privilege because it contains evidence of a crime, that material can be turned over to investigators.
paleotn
(17,930 posts)If they haven't already. Neither you nor I know exactly what has happened to date. However, federal and state law enforcement and prosecution share pertinent data all the time. That is not unusual by any means.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)are for warrants that are served on attorneys where the question of privilege exists.
The only material that will survive is the material that was specifically listed in the search warrant. The only material that can be passed to state authorities are 1) elements that were listed in the search warrant 2) areas that the federal government has decided that it will not pursue, you cannot double bag prosecutions on the same crime simultaneously in two jurisdictions.
rsdsharp
(9,186 posts)But at this point the state is not involved. FBI agents do not execute state search warrants.
paleotn
(17,930 posts)in ongoing and potential investigations.
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)While DOJ is in lead on Cohen, what they are showing is a pattern behavior that is the baes both state and federal criminal charges.
That means New York state (and perhaps California) can also indict him, and no presidential pardon can save him from that.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)irisblue
(32,980 posts)dlk
(11,567 posts)FakeNoose
(32,641 posts)... but naaahhh!!!
Skittles
(153,169 posts)Trump is being played by Mueller like a FIDDLE
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)I'm delighted to be wrong!
In fact, the more miserable Trump is, the happier I get.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Haven't seen confirmation yet that's true, but surprised at how happy it made me. A bully, fearful and in tears.
Trumpster fire, you're next.
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)The first was thinking of a presidential run as only a benefit to his bottom line and a way to make a killing in future profits. The second, and even greedier, was when he began thinking that he DESERVED to be POTUS and was entitled to every cent he could squeeze out of the position.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)It is poetic justice that he's finally caught in a web he can't get out of.
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)The raid and all of this stuff in the news involves a FEDERAL criminal investigation over the DOJ's SDNY office. Trump can pardon almost any conviction from this investigation. (Some have argued that Trump can't issue a pardon if he' part of the crime. That's just theor and the Supreme Court would have to decide that sort of stuff.)
Now, Cohen may also be under investigation (and probably is) by a state of New York prosecutor. Trump can't pardon these crimes. The feds and the state may be working together to squeeze Cohen into flipping.
BTW, in a tweet on this veryNYT story, former US Attorney for the SDNY Preet Bahara suggests that Cohen will be facing state charges.
Link to tweet
For those interested, here's a link to a good article from Vice on Cohen possibly facing state and federal charges:
Trump could pardon Michael Cohen but it might not save him
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)If feds and state work together, Cohen can't escape justice through tRump's corrupt use of the pardon. If Cohen cooperates with the feds, they can say, "We'll use our influence with the state to see that ithey go easier. If you take a pardon, we'll do everything we can to see you don't escape punishment. And we'll make sure you testify against everyone else in Federal court because you no longer can cite the fifth."
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)All he would be able to do would be "wack-a-mole".
Chakaconcarne
(2,453 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)in the country, Thomas Cooley Law School. Now what billionaire has a lawyer who went to the absolute worst law school in the country?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)yonder
(9,666 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)a fraudulent lawyer. In fact the law school has an 83% acceptance rate.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)dembotoz
(16,808 posts)his bluster worked
his lawyers worked
his connections worked
but someone is finally peaking under the rock he lives under
lol
they won't get him on everything but they will get him on something
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)Trump barely knows the man! Just ask Sarah Huckleberry Sanders. I think Cohen might have been a coffee boy, but Trump doesn't drink coffee! How would Trump even come into contact with the man?
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)In any case, Cohen is toast. He testified under oath he wasn't in Prague for that meeting with the Russians. Turns out Mueller has evidence he was at that meeting in Prague. Perjury... Go to Jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect two hundred dollars.