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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:01 AM Apr 2018

San Diego County supervisors vote 3-1 to support the Trump lawsuit against California sanctuary law

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

The San Diego County Board of Supervisors voted 3-1 to support the Trump administration’s lawsuit against California over laws that the state passed last year to limit its role in immigration enforcement.

The county will file an amicus brief at the first available opportunity, likely if and when the case moves to a higher court on appeal, said Kristin Gaspar, supervisor for the county district stretching from Miramar to Encinitas and Escondido and chairwoman of the board.

The San Diego County supervisors who voted to support the lawsuit said for them, it was about public safety.

“We’re talking about people who are crossing the border illegally, coming into this county and committing a crime and them being let loose probably to commit another crime,” said Dianne Jacob, supervisor for the district that covers East County. “That creates a public safety issue and creates a problem in our neighborhoods.”

Read more: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/immigration/sd-me-sanctuary-vote-20180417-story.html

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San Diego County supervisors vote 3-1 to support the Trump lawsuit against California sanctuary law (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2018 OP
I've been to San Diego and it's a beautiful area, great weather, but I also heard it's a RW area Rhiannon12866 Apr 2018 #1
Lot of military bases there. notdarkyet Apr 2018 #2
I live in north coastal San Diego County SHRED Apr 2018 #3
Well, I live in a Republican area too - and I'm in New York Rhiannon12866 Apr 2018 #6
I hear you. sandensea Apr 2018 #8
South Orange County is a rather isolated, super wealthy part of the state alp227 Apr 2018 #12
It does has some very wealthy neighborhoods sandensea Apr 2018 #19
Yes.Unlike our evolved SDCity Council(majority Ds)ourSD County Board's a 90's Republican monolith. stuffmatters Apr 2018 #16
A lot like Colorado Springs Jake Stern Apr 2018 #4
Ah! My cousin lived in San Diego for awhile Rhiannon12866 Apr 2018 #7
San Diego County voted for Clinton by a landslide 56 to 39 grantcart Apr 2018 #9
The Board of Supervisors not fooled Apr 2018 #5
San Diego has great weather, when you aren't in a drought, BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #10
However, Kevin Faulconer opposes the border wall and is no Trump supporter, alp227 Apr 2018 #11
Yep, I was at the border wall protest and BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #14
Stupid and pointless. Here's why. Liberty Belle Apr 2018 #13
This is why we need more Dems running for local office. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #15
of course heaven05 Apr 2018 #17
So who is Dianne Jacob going to represent turbinetree Apr 2018 #18
The CITY of San Diego is trending BLUE sdfernando Apr 2018 #20
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
3. I live in north coastal San Diego County
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:37 AM
Apr 2018

I grew up in this county.

It is a lot less red than years ago but it's still an area filled with politically ignorant people.

Rhiannon12866

(205,387 posts)
6. Well, I live in a Republican area too - and I'm in New York
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:42 AM
Apr 2018

Most of New York leans Republican, but we're a "blue state" because of the more populated city. And San Diego is such a nice area, lots to see and do, not to mention the great weather. And that's one thing you can't say about New York - we had an ice storm over the weekend.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
8. I hear you.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:56 AM
Apr 2018

I lived in South Orange County for a decade or so.

The Bush calamity - and the steep losses that came with it for most area homeowners - diluted their support for the GOP somewhat; but it's still fertile ground for these neo-fascists taking over the GOP in recent decades.

North Orange County is a different story. It's less affluent and much more ethnically diverse, and as you know that part of OC went strongly for Hillary.

What keeps South OC voting for far-right Republicans? Hatred of people from south of the border - when they're not hiring undocumented maids and gardeners, of course.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
12. South Orange County is a rather isolated, super wealthy part of the state
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 02:30 AM
Apr 2018

That area has been conservative for a long time. Did you know: Prior to the 2016 election, the last time Orange County voted for the Democratic presidential candidate was for FDR in 1936?

Goes without saying that more urbanized parts of the country vote for Democrats due to preferring cooperative ("SOCIALIST!&quot policies, while more rural, isolated parts of the country prefer the individualistic, self-reliant policies of Republicans.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
19. It does has some very wealthy neighborhoods
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:42 AM
Apr 2018

But most are upper-middle class homes mortgaged to the hilt. Not much construction since around '03, owing to the very unaffordability ($700,000-$1 million for a typical home).

You do see a lot of delusions of grandeur, that's for sure.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
16. Yes.Unlike our evolved SDCity Council(majority Ds)ourSD County Board's a 90's Republican monolith.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 05:27 AM
Apr 2018

Our County Board of antique Supervisors thrives in voter obscurity. It's really hard to actually even find out how long they get elected for,when each is up for reelection (I just searched for about 30 minutes) and I'm not even sure a supervisor's party is designated on any ballot. For years they also had no term limits and I think even got to draw themselves their own districts.

Hopefully this atrocious vote against Sanctuary Cities will finally spotlight our long entrenched County Republican 90's Relic.. 3 (maybe 4 soon) of San Diego County's 5 Congresspeople are Democrats. The San Diego City Council is majority Dem and strongly passed a resolution against Trump's Wall and supports SD as a Sanctuary City. I believe this ignorant,racist vote will be unpopular with San Diegans throughout the County & hopefully begin to break the Republican lock on our County Board of Supervisors.

But it has strategically served Gaspar.the newest Supervisor, who drove this Board campaign and vote against sanctuary cities. She is running for Issa's Congressional seat & surely hoping this will solidify her cred with the RW ignorant/ hate voter. And in a field with so many Dems running against each other, that contingent could easily get her into the top 2 & onto the Nov ballot. She certainly has the local Repub machine and the national Repub filth infrastructure (Koch et alios) behind her. .


Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
4. A lot like Colorado Springs
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:40 AM
Apr 2018

A combination of heavy military saturation with a large and very politically active retiree population. Especially lots of military retirees who tend right to hard right.

Rhiannon12866

(205,387 posts)
7. Ah! My cousin lived in San Diego for awhile
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:47 AM
Apr 2018

But she's originally from the Denver area and I was baffled why she moved back! I'm in New York and I sure envy the weather in Southern California and it's not any better in Colorado. And my cousin is "one of us," she used to complain about having Cory Gardner for a Rep.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
9. San Diego County voted for Clinton by a landslide 56 to 39
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 01:32 AM
Apr 2018


http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/data-watch/sd-me-election-results-president-20161110-story.html

San Diego County voters this week voted for the losing presidential contender for the first time since Republican Bob Dole won here in 1996, and lost the presidency.

The majority of voters in San Diego County chose Democrat Hillary Clinton, who lost the nationwide election.

With approximately 620,000 mail and provisional ballots still to be counted, Clinton led with 56 percent of the vote to Trump’s 39 percent.



Republicans failed to win anything in 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_general_election,_2016

The problem is that County Commissioners don't have party affiliation.

Most of the issues with the Board of Supervisors have to do with unincorporated part of the city and those folks include a lot of far right folks that are well organized.

The City and County of San Diego is Democratic and most of the Republicans in the suburbs are moderates.

President Obama carried the county twice and Sec Clinton won it in a landslide, most people don't pay attention to the County Commissioners who run without party affiliation.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
5. The Board of Supervisors
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:42 AM
Apr 2018

covers a lot of rural areas in the county, which are dominated by RW white racists. Dianne Jacob and Horn are known idiots.

Supervisor Cox's remark pretty much sums it up:

“The board’s vote is a largely symbolic move that will create fear and divisiveness in our region, waste taxpayer funds and create distrust of law enforcement and local government within many communities,” Cox said.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
10. San Diego has great weather, when you aren't in a drought,
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 02:06 AM
Apr 2018

which we are again, but it costs A LOT to live here. The area is mostly blue/urban. The large number of military bases and their families accounts for the Republican voters as well as the RW counties where Issa and Duncan Hunter got the votes. We had a Dem mayor, Bob Filner, but he molested tons of women and he had to quit, so now we have a conservative mayor again.

"Robert Earl Filner (born September 4, 1942) is a former American politician who was the 35th Mayor of San Diego from December 2012 through August 2013, when he resigned amid multiple allegations of sexual harassment. He later pleaded guilty to state charges of false imprisonment and battery. He is a member of the Democratic Party."

alp227

(32,025 posts)
11. However, Kevin Faulconer opposes the border wall and is no Trump supporter,
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 02:27 AM
Apr 2018

so on that site known as "F.R." he's called "RINO".

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
13. Stupid and pointless. Here's why.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 03:01 AM
Apr 2018

Besides being terrible for immigrants and their families, this action misses the deadline to actually join the lawsuit.

So they're paying to have county counsel draft a letter that can't even be submitted in support of the suit until it's heard by a trial court and then only if the losing side files an appeal.

That could take a long time in our overloaded court system. If it's delayed until January or later, Supervisors Horn and Roberts will be gone due to term limits (Horn voted for this debacle) and Gaspar, who also voted for it, could possibly be out if (heaven forbid) she wins her Congressional race against Scott Peters.

So there's a good chance new Supervisors could be Democrats or more moderate Republicans (Cox is Republican and voted no).

In two more years, Jacob and Cox will also be off the board due to term limits, so we will be seeing a complete turnover of these 5 Republicans soon, one way or another.

My bet is the next election will sweep in some liberals, since the marijuana industry will be funding challengers big time after Supervisors voted to prohibit all marijuana sales in unincorporated areas of the county, even though the state has legalized it.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
17. of course
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:06 AM
Apr 2018

I would expect nothing less from this leadership in this city with trigger happy, against AA citizens, police.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
18. So who is Dianne Jacob going to represent
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:38 AM
Apr 2018
https://statisticalatlas.com/place/California/San-Diego/Race-and-Ethnicity


This is about two years old..................but safety in San Diego County needs to be called into question.............just from 2016

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/data-watch/sd-me-data-ois-20161017-htmlstory.html

What is striking is the graph on shooting by race..............

My question is have ever a police officer gone to court in Superior Court in California on wrongful deaths

https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/public-safety/police-oversight-group-set-dismiss-22-death-cases-without-investigation/


Apparently the right wing board of supervisors in the county.......................have blinders on when it comes to "public safety"




sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
20. The CITY of San Diego is trending BLUE
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:15 PM
Apr 2018

I'd say it is purple now. We've had Democratic mayors. North County is also moving blue but slower than the city itself. East County?....UGH! Very rural, very conservative...Think Duncan Hunter (both Sr. & Jr.) This is the area they represented.

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