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turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 05:49 PM Apr 2018

Airlines start inspecting engines after Southwest engine failure causes passenger's death

Source: LA Times

At least two U.S. airlines announced new inspections of engines on some of their Boeing 737 jets after federal safety officials said the engine on a Southwest Airlines flight that failed Tuesday had signs of metal weakness.

United Airlines and Southwest each said Wednesday that certain engines developed by CFM International would undergo the inspections. CFM developed the engine that blew open on the Southwest flight, leading to the death of a passenger and forcing the plane to make an emergency landing in Philadelphia.

The engine failure sent shrapnel into the fuselage of the plane, which was flying from New York to Dallas carrying 144 passengers and five crew members. Jennifer Riordan, a bank executive and mother of two from New Mexico, was sucked partway out of a broken window. She is the first passenger to be killed in a U.S. airline accident since 2009.

National Transportation Safety Board investigators found indications of metal fatigue, an area of weakness caused by repeated bending, where a fan blade on the engine was missing, NTSB Chairman Robert Sumwalt said in a briefing Tuesday night.



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-southwest-airlines-accident-20180417-story.html

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turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
3. Depending on how high they were when the fan blade failed, she more than likely was
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:06 PM
Apr 2018

unconsciousness. If you are above 10,000 feet you will die in a short amount of time...............

The Effects of Hypoxia at Various Altitudes
Learjet in flight

Hypoxia is an insidious and progressive condition and is almost undetectable by the pilot. You should always be aware that without supplemental oxygen at sufficient pressure you will gradually and progressively lapse into incompetence while maintaining an absolutely euphoric faith in your own ability.

As blood saturation of oxygen drops there is a steady disruption of life functions. From a blood saturation of 93%, considered the low limit of normal functioning, where visual problems begin to occur, there is a rapid deterioration into unconsciousness with decreasing saturation.

Keep in mind, as mentioned earlier, that although the partial pressure of oxygen in the atmosphere decreases somewhat less than linearly with increasing altitude, the hemoglobin's ability to combine with this oxygen follows a much different and more deadly curve. This property of hemoglobin bears heavily on oxygen requirements at altitude. Let's look at some common hypoxic effects an average, healthy individual can expect with increasing altitudes.

5000 feet. This is considered by most to be a "low" altitude. The retina of the eye is more demanding of oxygen than any other organ of the body -- even the brain itself which demands 30% of the supply. At this "low" altitude this extension of the brain will begin to suffer degradations in function which will be most noticeable at this point in night vision.

Instruments and maps are more easily misread during night flight at this altitude and ground features and lights are more easily misinterpreted. It is always an eye-opening shock to my students when I bring them in over the Mojave Desert after a long flight at a cabin altitude of 8000 feet. After having them note the discernible features on the dark desert floor, I have them breath 100% oxygen for a few minutes. Without exception, all are shocked and amazed to note the features that "jump" out of the blackness after a little O2. Most have heard of this little demonstration before it actually takes place, but none are totally prepared for its dramatic effect. This level of hypoxia is extremely insidious because most pilots feel they are functioning at peak efficiency at this point. Extra vigilance is necessary to prevent missing critical fixes on charts or misreading instruments.

10,000 feet. Night vision is now degraded by 15-25 percent. The blood saturation has dropped to 90 percent and your brain is receiving the absolute minimum supply of oxygen. This is the absolute highest altitude at which you should have any trust at all in your own performance although your judgment is already severely compromised. Euphoria will prevent true self-assessment of your abilities. Physical hypoxic symptoms such as tingling and headache may not become apparent for four hours or more at this altitude, although judgment has long gone by the wayside. Above 10,000 feet blood oxygen saturation and performance degrade steeply.

14,000 feet. Blood oxygen saturation is down to a dangerous 85%. You will be increasingly disabled at this altitude. Vision will dim. You will experience serious degradation of judgment, memory and thought. The impairment of judgment will leave you feeling just fine and confident in your performance, however. If hypoxia is not recognized and corrected at this stage of impairment, it is unlikely that it will be recognized. You are in serious danger.

16,000 feet. Only 2,000 feet higher than the last assessment, but you will behave as though you had ingested a full load of gin and tonics. Your blood oxygen saturation will have dropped to 79 percent and you will be seriously disabled. You will be euphoric, belligerent, disoriented or perhaps all three. You will be irrational, unreliable and dangerous. If you are alone, your chances of survival are decreasing rapidly.

18,000 feet. At this altitude you are incapable of any useful function although you may still feel great! Blood saturation has fallen to 71 percent and your brain is suffering. You will pass out in about 30 minutes.

20,000 feet. If you have not already collapsed, it will not be long now. Five to 15 minutes is about the time of useful consciousness at this altitude and prolonged exposure can result in death. Blood saturation has dropped to 71%.

25,000 feet. Forget it! Blood saturation has now dropped to lethal levels. Time of useful consciousness is three to six minutes with death following not long after that. Above this altitude, suffering a rapid decompression may also result in a condition divers know as the bends and various other pressure related maladies. Remember, this is only HALF as higat altittudeh as some modern civilian aircraft are certified to fly!


But note she was being sucked out by the depressurization of the aircraft, which is 14.7 pounds per square each altitude, which is what the pressure is at sea level

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
5. I think those figures are misleading. They're mainly talking about being able to perform
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:48 PM
Apr 2018

at peak efficiency. It's worth remembering that El Alto in Bolivia (including La Paz's airport) is nearly 14,000 feet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_cities_in_the_world , but you're not 'in serious danger' by going there straight from sea level; you may suffer from headaches and nausea at first, and be unable to do vigorous exercise until you acclimatize.

"You will die in a short amount of time" hardly applies at any height below 25,000 ft. This paper, for instance, reckons it's the time above that level that is important for survival: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VjnrCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA203&lpg=PA203 . With the plane being rapidly flown to below that level, it's possible she wasn't unconscious (due to lack of oxygen, anyway).

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
8. The numbers are BS...
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 09:29 PM
Apr 2018

I have hiked and skied at over 11,000 feet in Colorado.

This article should be removed.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
2. Does Trump sit by a window over the wing on his way to Mar A Shithole?
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:00 PM
Apr 2018

with 2 engines on each side that could double the chance of a direct hit. Golly, I hope he takes precautionary measures.

doc03

(35,337 posts)
4. Its ironic a Southwest plane engine blows up a day after 60 Minutes does a segment on
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:24 PM
Apr 2018

Allegiant Air safety.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
6. if the blade in one engine of that era jet engine has metal fatigue..
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:59 PM
Apr 2018

why wouldn't many others from similar engines be in the the same situation.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
7. +1
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 09:14 PM
Apr 2018

I’m sure under a ‘zero tolerance’ situation you’d find many aircraft being grounded.

However; many are probably pushed past their limits to maximize profits.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
11. That's exactly why the engines are being inspected
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:06 PM
Apr 2018

There's a big caveat, though. Sometimes the parts, specifically the blades and disks which hold the blades, don't show any sign of metal fatigue and will pass an inspection and then fail. Even today, I don't think there are really good algorithms that predict when a blade or disk will fail. My experience is that engineers will put a life limit of x nr of hours on the parts, but sometimes parts fail before that. Blades and disks are not cheap and replacing every one at x hrs would cost a lot of money.

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
10. Deregulating the airlines will lead to less safety inspections and more deaths/injuries.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 09:32 PM
Apr 2018

And, the republican'ts can't cut enough regulations fast enough.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
12. Haven't seen any affected safety inspections.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:50 AM
Apr 2018

I've seen proposals about tarmac delays, wheelchair accessibility, but not actual inspections of airplane hardware. Even proposed. By the most ardent fans of deregulation.

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