My wife and I combined have owned half that number, total, in our lives. Out of that number we currently have two. Well, three if you count the one I lost in the house five years ago, and have never found.

that your probably forgot to check your pockets when she did some laundry.

The reason I lost my phone was because my wife had a herniated disc, and was stuck in bed for 2-3 weeks. I kept my cell phone with me so that she could call it if she needed something when I was down stairs doing the laundry. The operative word here is I. I was doing the laundry (grumble, whine, bitch, moan).

We'll do each others' laundry if it's in the flow of the day or evening. I am often switching her laundry since she usually goes to bed before me. And if it's really cold, because the steps to the basement are sheltered but not insulated.

We often "role switch." It's usually me that stays home with the kids when they are sick. She has her own floral business, and my IT job has the benies. Work lets me use my sick days to stay with the kids when they are sick, or when I take them to medical appointments.

She was laid up in the hospital for 3 weeks on bed rest prior to our younger daughter's birth, who was 8 weeks premature. My wife did all the negotiating, calls, and emails from the hospital bed in order to refinance our house. All I had to do was the document collection.

Once we convinced the insurance company that an MRI NOW was better than one 4-6 weeks later when she could barely walk to the bathroom, we were able to get a diagnosis. That led to a steroid regime, and then a referral to a pain specialist and a steroid shot into the disc which got her up and back to work within a few weeks.

That says it all! That is what drug criminals do and so do white collar traitors apparently do as well.

When you want to make a call that can't be traced back to you, you buy a cheap phone with renewable minutes, and the number doesn't get registered to your name. You make the call and then you destroy the phone. (I'm sure you've seen it on spy movies and such.) Maybe Cohen used burners to talk to criminals or spies, but never destroyed the phones.

Another scenario: he might have had certain phones to make calls (untraceable) with a certain client. Nobody else gets to use that number. Being connected with the Russian mob, this is a definite possibility.

It's good tradecraft...for people up to clandestine activities. Not that we needed 16 phones to deduce that.

I agree that many cell phones is very suspicious.

Of course, Gustavo, though a homicidal SOB, at least had some courage and intelligence; Cohen has never displayed either quality.

Burn 'em!

And travel to China with a phone registered under a fake name.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politics/manafort-3-passports/index.html

Department (?) manage to issue 3 passports to 1 person without red flags going up?

all over again every day or so.

Perhaps showing a trip to Prague for example within the relevant time frame.

That would be a slam dunk.

About 10 years of data on each of us.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/28/all-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email

I am a totally boring individual. As a Pastry Chef, I usually stay in one place....but in a spy movie I might be baking products that have pockets that might contain contraband. It might have to be a pretty big cream puff though. Not an easy feat.

How in the world would you keep track of who you call on which phone?

I think he looks more like Cohen than Ben Stiller.

And hung on to the old ones.

Or, he might have used a lot of burner (disposable) phones to evade being monitored. That’s common in crime novels, especially for terrorists.

iirc, In one of Manafort's indictments it said that when he went to China he had/used a phone not in his name.
Also one of the 3 passports that he used was in another name then his.

Was this already public knowledge about Cohen's phones because if not and Avenatti has a source that gives him privy information I'd be surprised that he(double lol) leaked it.

It's not like he had 16 active phones at one time. That's still a lot though.

but the whole point of a burner phone is to burn (dispose of or destroy)it when you're done....you're not supposed to keep them!

A meme is born...

The sheer number says something's going on with those phones. I could believe 5 or 8 maybe. But 16? I'll bet some were compartmentalized for specific purposes, clients, or regions. That's where it could get juicy.

Another charge added and deeper in shit....

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16 devices? Nice!!

Nice, nice, very nice!

which was the method used to get rid of them. Some Techs said they weren't destroyed enough before sending to recycling.

My hard drives never held any information other than my own personal records, but I've destroyed them for my own protection. I never saw a problem with Hillary's phone being destroyed.

to be replaced they yank the drive reformat the new one and send the old one to a shredder. The rest of the computer then goes to a the county recycle. Since 1997 they have done that.

#1 buy burner
#2 wait
#3 use it
#4 burn it
#5 go to #1

... that if they call somebody like Manafort whose phone records have been search-warranted, then the burner phone number is on there and the Feds can search-warrant the burner phone number records.

which you buy minutes of airtime via prepaid cards, which the user stops using when the minutes are up. They don't ask your name or address.

MetroPCS and Cricket are prepaid phones, but they require name and address as part of the activation process; therefore, they're not burner phones. TracFone and AT&T Prepaid, for instance, are often used for burner phones.

I worked for some powerful lawyers. They didn't have multiple phones for their own use (I'm sure their family members had their own phones).

This guy is a connected criminal.

John Barron.

The whole idea of using different phones is to get rid of them when you’re done...keeping them around defeats the purpose...dumb fuck!

For whatever reason maybe he didn't want to transfer his audio calls to a computer or another phone and just
kept the original phones with the recordings?
Since he's such an obnoxious bully he probably got off replaying them for himself and having the recordings to use against the person in the future if need be.

Cohen is one fucked up guy who lived vicariously through Trump.

He doesn't strike me as very tech-savvy.

Only people I've ever heard of with that many phones at one time are narcotics dealers or pimps. Interesting.

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