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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:34 AM Apr 2018

Ryan explains decision to dismiss House chaplain

Source: The Hill




BY MELANIE ZANONA AND SCOTT WONG - 04/27/18 10:00 AM EDT

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) told the House Republican Conference Friday morning that he fired Chaplain Patrick Conroy because members felt like their “pastoral needs” were not being met and not for a political reason, according to several Republicans inside the room.

Ryan told members his decision to ask Conroy to step aside had nothing to do with politics, a policy conflict or a prayer.

A number of lawmakers had approached Ryan and told him they needed someone in the chaplain’s role who could offer more “spiritual counseling,” according to Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.), who attended the meeting. Ryan agreed, he told the members.

Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) also told The Hill that Ryan insisted during the private meeting that the dismissal was not done for any politician reasons, but because it was just “time for a change.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/385159-ryan-explains-decision-to-dismiss-house-chaplain-in-closed-door-meeting

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Ryan explains decision to dismiss House chaplain (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
Fucking liar. Rabrrrrrr Apr 2018 #1
Exactly TEB Apr 2018 #3
Whoa! Flash from the past! babylonsister Apr 2018 #26
Howdy! Rabrrrrrr Apr 2018 #29
Longggg time! Great to see you! nt babylonsister Apr 2018 #34
Thanks! Good to see you, Rabrrrrrr Apr 2018 #35
Republican Pastoral needs ? They wanted him to get hookers JI7 Apr 2018 #2
Oh thats funny TEB Apr 2018 #5
Please do!:) True Blue American Apr 2018 #18
Lobbyists....the feed the pockets. Historic NY Apr 2018 #22
A sheep thing possibly? Zambero Apr 2018 #33
He wasn't catering to the Evilgelicals. lagomorph777 Apr 2018 #45
"their needs werent being met" handmade34 Apr 2018 #4
spiritual counseling, atreides1 Apr 2018 #6
Easier to force a Chaplin out than Devin Nunes djacq Apr 2018 #7
So, all it took to get the chaplain fired was a couple of Repugs to complain. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2018 #8
That is why they complained and Ryan True Blue American Apr 2018 #20
Chaplain: "Gosh, my job is great! I work with Congress everyday! I absolutely love what I do! LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2018 #46
Yeah, they need "pastoral counselling" alright -- to come to grips with LuckyLib Apr 2018 #9
GOPers sure do not believe in bi-partisan -ship huh Iliyah Apr 2018 #10
A lot of talk here and no one asking the obvious question genxlib Apr 2018 #11
Well, now, if you want to ask the awkward questions and all. malthaussen Apr 2018 #19
I agree 100%, genxlib Ohiogal Apr 2018 #23
Ryan: "Pastor refused to bless The Payday Lenders, Vigorish, & Loansharking Guild." n/t Julian Englis Apr 2018 #12
Thank you. True Blue American Apr 2018 #21
Tiny little balls to SayItLoud Apr 2018 #13
It has nothing with exclusionary male genitalia. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #41
Franklin Graham step on up MattP Apr 2018 #14
And besides, Ryan's leaving so no one else has to take the heat for it Maeve Apr 2018 #15
Heard Jim Bakker was available packman Apr 2018 #16
Plus, he comes with his own bucket of food! jberryhill Apr 2018 #32
That pic makes it look like Jesus is saying, Qutzupalotl Apr 2018 #43
They are going to privatize it underpants Apr 2018 #17
Nope. It's a direct benefit to CongressCritters (those who are christian) so they make taxpayer pay. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #42
pastoral needs - They need a preacher of Mammon keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #24
One evangelical coming up! gibraltar72 Apr 2018 #25
If only there was a place people could go in Washington for pastoral care... brooklynite Apr 2018 #27
lol, I see what you did there, took me a minute but I got you grantcart Apr 2018 #38
Congress was pissed........... MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #28
Pastoral ching-ching needs ching-ching Zambero Apr 2018 #30
If it was such a simple reason as "time for a change" why didn't Ryan fire the chaplain? Frustratedlady Apr 2018 #31
Cuz Jesuits are all about service to others. And education. Beartracks Apr 2018 #36
In other words Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #37
if there is a God and a personal accounting grantcart Apr 2018 #39
Everything the GOP does is political. CrispyQ Apr 2018 #40
How about a Muslim chaplain? Anything in the rules against it?. . .n/t annabanana Apr 2018 #44
If they want spiritual counseling LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #47

Rabrrrrrr

(58,352 posts)
1. Fucking liar.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:35 AM
Apr 2018

Chaplain got fired for not holding to a Republican Jesus of war and shitting on the poor.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
2. Republican Pastoral needs ? They wanted him to get hookers
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:41 AM
Apr 2018

for them using taxpayer funds probably.

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
4. "their needs werent being met"
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:43 AM
Apr 2018

of course... Conroy did not give (Congressional Republicans) spiritual approval for the righteousness of making the poor suffer needlessly more than they already do

atreides1

(16,091 posts)
6. spiritual counseling,
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:44 AM
Apr 2018

Means they want a chaplain that believes in "Prosperity Gospel" teachings!!!


Ryan is a liar and those that approached him are cowards...

8. So, all it took to get the chaplain fired was a couple of Repugs to complain.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:50 AM
Apr 2018

It didn't sound like Ryan had any conversation with the chaplain before he canned him. I read one of the chaplain's prayers where he asked God to guide the congressmen in working to end the huge discrepancy in income in the country, and to protect the poor, aged and infirm.

No wonder the Repugs got upset.

With so much real work to be done, Ryan chooses instead to do the most trivial --and yet somehow vindictive -- action he can take.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
20. That is why they complained and Ryan
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:26 PM
Apr 2018

Fired him. At first Ryan claimed the Chaplain quit.

Just like Trump.a blanking liar!

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
9. Yeah, they need "pastoral counselling" alright -- to come to grips with
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:51 AM
Apr 2018

their practice in Congress and the moral values they were raised with. The conflict must be stressful for some of them. Maybe the Reverend isn't helping them feel better about being hypocrites.

genxlib

(5,530 posts)
11. A lot of talk here and no one asking the obvious question
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:55 AM
Apr 2018

Why do we have a fucking congressional chaplain anyway?

Go to church on your own time you hypocritical bastards

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
19. Well, now, if you want to ask the awkward questions and all.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:26 PM
Apr 2018

At this point, frankly, I'm wondering why we have a Congress at all. (That, I suppose, is the plan)

-- Mal

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
13. Tiny little balls to
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:56 AM
Apr 2018

1. stand up to tRUMP
2.defend America which is UNDER ATTACK by Russia
3.get health care to Americans

BUT GIANT BALLS to

-- FIRE A CHAPLAIN because some need spiritual counseling because of the first 3 points!

Maeve

(42,287 posts)
15. And besides, Ryan's leaving so no one else has to take the heat for it
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:59 AM
Apr 2018

other than unnamed "members"...

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,034 posts)
42. Nope. It's a direct benefit to CongressCritters (those who are christian) so they make taxpayer pay.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 03:16 PM
Apr 2018

CONgress members, especially RepubliCON members, pay for something they can gouge out of taxpayers? Are you kidding?

brooklynite

(94,713 posts)
27. If only there was a place people could go in Washington for pastoral care...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:06 PM
Apr 2018

Maybe a building with a descriptive symbol on it for easy identification.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
28. Congress was pissed...........
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:08 PM
Apr 2018

because all of their "Thoughts and Prayers" weren't lining their pockets fast enough!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
31. If it was such a simple reason as "time for a change" why didn't Ryan fire the chaplain?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:14 PM
Apr 2018

He had some other guy do it for him. Chicken, at best.

Tell the real reason, Ryan. Did he rub you the wrong way? Put your conscience in a tizzy over the tax giveaway? Sometimes, the truth makes your insides quiver, don't they, Ryan? You KNEW that was wrong and the chaplain was just trying to make you Republicans feel a little nervous over the greed. Jesus probably would have done the same...money changers.

I hope you sleep well at night. Don't worry, you'll be gone soon.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
36. Cuz Jesuits are all about service to others. And education.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:27 PM
Apr 2018

I can see where Congressional Republicans wouldn't "get" what that's all about.

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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. if there is a God and a personal accounting
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:11 PM
Apr 2018

Ryan will find this bold faced lie among the more difficult to explain

CrispyQ

(36,502 posts)
40. Everything the GOP does is political.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

Bet they want a flaming evangelical. Someone to tell them how righteous they are & how much like Satan the dems are.

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