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riversedge

(70,253 posts)
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:34 PM May 2018

'Send in the G Men': Devin Nunes calls for John Kerry to be arrested by the FBI

Source: raw story



‘Send in the G Men’: Devin Nunes calls for John Kerry to be arrested by the FBI

04 May 2018 at 20:06 ET
Congressman Devin Nunes (R-CA), photo by Gage Skidmore and John Kerry, official portrait. Composite image.
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The chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is calling for former Secretary of State John Kerry to be the very first person every arrested under a constitutionally dubious 1799 law.

Congressman Devin Nunes (R-CA) made his demand to imprison the former Massachusetts Democrat under the Logan Act, which could theoretically result in three year in federal prison.


...............The allegations followed a new Boston Globe report on former Secretary of State Kerry working to save the Iran nuclear deal.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/send-g-men-devin-nunes-calls-john-kerry-arrested-fbi/



When is Ryan going to get rid of this madman>>???




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'Send in the G Men': Devin Nunes calls for John Kerry to be arrested by the FBI (Original Post) riversedge May 2018 OP
It wins points with the nutcore base Trumpanzees and keeps the Iran deal associated with negatives. Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #1
Republican's Congressional theme is ... Civic Justice May 2018 #2
Nunes is the enemy of all that is green and good and human. byronius May 2018 #3
Wait. So, this is NOT the Onion? FailureToCommunicate May 2018 #4
Is there another source than Raw Story? salin May 2018 #5
Boston Globe covered the Kerry efforts csziggy May 2018 #13
thanks salin May 2018 #29
Yes, Devin Nunes's authenticated Twitter account muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #27
thanks. salin May 2018 #28
It wasn't a violation of the Logan Act. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #6
Thank you underpants May 2018 #14
Sounds like something that should be used against RUMP, since they were ... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #22
Yes! nt tomp May 2018 #23
Of course--accuse others of that which you are guilty; that's this whole cabal's game plan! eom Maeve May 2018 #32
Past time @speakerRyan did his job an kicked wingnut Nunes off the committee. riversedge May 2018 #26
That's okay Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #42
Isn't law wonderful? malthaussen May 2018 #35
Kerry as Lobbyist negoldie May 2018 #39
But I thought this was Jared Kushner's job. dameatball May 2018 #7
Sonny boy Jared just mows and trims the WH lawn these days Bengus81 May 2018 #16
Hey, don't sell him short. I think he also washes and waxes the presidential limo. trof May 2018 #41
The great irony is that this dipshit sees no connection between Trump and Russia Mr. Sparkle May 2018 #8
He sees it. He just ignores it. n/t. Whiskeytide May 2018 #21
He doesn't ignore it, he denies it. nt tomp May 2018 #24
If Nunes thinks Logan Act violations should be more strictly prosecuted, that's fine RockRaven May 2018 #9
the usual christofascist MO... Thomas Hurt May 2018 #10
Shouldn't he be calling for the arrest of Michael Flynn as well? yonder May 2018 #11
Send in the men with the white coats Butterflylady May 2018 #12
while we are talking FBI elmac May 2018 #15
Remember when Senate Republicans actually undermined the USA? Marcuse May 2018 #17
Maybe John Kerry should be President. raging moderate May 2018 #18
If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize (along with Moniz, for the Iran deal) he does. MBS May 2018 #25
Agree with everything karynnj May 2018 #37
+ 1000 MBS May 2018 #43
I wonder if Devon Nunes will be able to appreciate the irony when the FBI and ... marble falls May 2018 #19
Only after you arrest Tom Cotton and his friends, you moron. sinkingfeeling May 2018 #20
This is a coordinated attack on kerry JI7 May 2018 #30
No doubt. Trump and Nunes on the same day? underpants May 2018 #31
They want to lock ALL their political 'enemies' up. Mc Mike May 2018 #33
However, it is pretty ineffective karynnj May 2018 #38
Devin Nunes poops all over Washington milestogo May 2018 #34
Nunes needs to be charged with obstruction of justice Gothmog May 2018 #36
forget global warming, i think they plan on blowing UP earth 1st. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #40
From Preet Bharara Gothmog May 2018 #44

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,013 posts)
1. It wins points with the nutcore base Trumpanzees and keeps the Iran deal associated with negatives.
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:40 PM
May 2018

The profit-centered media play along, for profit. They are in it only for profit (the companies; there are many fine journalists who never see any profit).

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
2. Republican's Congressional theme is ...
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:40 PM
May 2018

Push someone down, to try and lift yourself up.... They've attacked everything and everyone in their desperate madness to lift themselves up.... It only shows, how inept and lowly they are.

Savages... fierce, violent, and uncontrolled.... a people regarded as primitive and uncivilized.

byronius

(7,396 posts)
3. Nunes is the enemy of all that is green and good and human.
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:44 PM
May 2018

He's hoping there's no justice in the world.

Because if there is ANY JUSTICE AT ALL, he's toast.

salin

(48,955 posts)
5. Is there another source than Raw Story?
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:50 PM
May 2018

It freezes my computer, and often their headlines are hyperbolic per the content in the story.

Sounds like an important story - and if their are more sources it merits reading consideration. But if just Raw Story - meh. Sometimes it is rather clickbaity.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
13. Boston Globe covered the Kerry efforts
Fri May 4, 2018, 09:35 PM
May 2018
Kerry quietly seeking to salvage Iran deal he helped craft

By Matt Viser Globe Staff May 04, 2018

WASHINGTON — John Kerry’s bid to save one of his most significant accomplishments as secretary of state took him to New York on a Sunday afternoon two weeks ago, where, more than a year after he left office, he engaged in some unusual shadow diplomacy with a top-ranking Iranian official.

He sat down at the United Nations with Foreign Minister Javad Zarif to discuss ways of preserving the pact limiting Iran’s nuclear weapons program. It was the second time in about two months that the two had met to strategize over salvaging a deal they spent years negotiating during the Obama administration, according to a person briefed on the meetings.

With the Iran deal facing its gravest threat since it was signed in 2015, Kerry has been on an aggressive yet stealthy mission to preserve it, using his deep lists of contacts gleaned during his time as the top US diplomat to try to apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside. President Trump, who has consistently criticized the pact and campaigned in 2016 on scuttling it, faces a May 12 deadline to decide whether to continue abiding by its terms.

Kerry also met last month with German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, and he’s been on the phone with top European Union official Federica Mogherini, according to the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal the private meetings. Kerry has also met with French President Emmanuel Macron in both Paris and New York, conversing over the details of sanctions and regional nuclear threats in both French and English.

More: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/04/kerry-quietly-seeking-salvage-iran-deal-helped-craft/2fTkGON7xvaNbO0YbHECUL/story.html


The Devin Nunes idiocy seems to be based on a tweet from him about that story.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
27. Yes, Devin Nunes's authenticated Twitter account
Sat May 5, 2018, 07:33 AM
May 2018



OMG! Logan Act violations!! Send in the G Men...Devin Nunes added,
Annie Linskey
Verified account

@AnnieLinskey

SCOOP: John Kerry is very, very quietly playing quasi-diplomat, meeting with foreign leaders of France and Iran to save the Iran nuclear deal via @mviser

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
6. It wasn't a violation of the Logan Act.
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:53 PM
May 2018

That law, even if it is constitutional, prohibits private citizens from communicating with foreign governments for the purpose of acting to undermine existing laws or policies of the United States. The Iran treaty is an existing law of the United States, and Kerry is trying to keep it intact, not undermine it.

SWBTATTReg

(22,144 posts)
22. Sounds like something that should be used against RUMP, since they were ...
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:07 AM
May 2018

talking to the Russians before they held office officially, and undermining president Obama and his efforts.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
42. That's okay
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:27 PM
May 2018

Just keep shooting your mouth off, Nunes. Come November you are gone. Even the people in your district hate you and are embarrassed every time you open your mouth. In five years, you won't even be a footnote.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,935 posts)
8. The great irony is that this dipshit sees no connection between Trump and Russia
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:54 PM
May 2018

and yet he is the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

RockRaven

(14,977 posts)
9. If Nunes thinks Logan Act violations should be more strictly prosecuted, that's fine
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:54 PM
May 2018

but let's go in chronological order. Just about everyone in Trump's inner circle including his kids are ahead of Kerry in line.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
10. the usual christofascist MO...
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:55 PM
May 2018

when someone on the right is being investigated for some crime.....the midnight weasel or one of Trump's other servile lackeys manufactures the exact same accusation against some Democrat.

yonder

(9,668 posts)
11. Shouldn't he be calling for the arrest of Michael Flynn as well?
Fri May 4, 2018, 09:01 PM
May 2018

Last edited Sat May 5, 2018, 12:18 AM - Edit history (1)

perhaps also Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, etc., etc.,? Oooh, and don't leave out Erik Prince. Wasn't he monkeying around in Saudi Arabia for something? fu, Nunes.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
15. while we are talking FBI
Fri May 4, 2018, 09:56 PM
May 2018

why doesn't the FBI go after all fascist GOP pigs, they are traitors, mobsters and con artists, now that makes sense.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
25. If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize (along with Moniz, for the Iran deal) he does.
Sat May 5, 2018, 06:41 AM
May 2018

Sounds just like John Kerry - quietly trying to make something good happen.
Sounds just like the Republicans - loudly trying to punish or ridicule or slander anyone trying to do good, zealously working to destroy or reverse any progress that has been made.
Sounds just like Trump (I'm referring to his outrageous NRA comments on Kerry, but also to almost anything that comes out of his mouth) - tearing down anyone who opposes him with cruelty, lies, and ridicule, who "wins" by stoking fear, prejudice, and hatred of others among his misguided supporters.

I am sick of the meanness and the lies and the cruelty and the corruption and the vandalism of my country.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
37. Agree with everything
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:37 AM
May 2018

I had long wondered, given the shift on the part of the Europeans to be willing to do something to add onto the agreement, whether the reported conversations with Kerry at various meetings might have influenced that. If so, Trump's explicit policy has been to "fix" the deal or eliminate it. I would not have been surprised if Kerry were trying to find any common ground that the Europeans and Iran could propose -- that would give Trump a face saving way to claim he was now ok because the deal was "fixed". (Some rw arguments are not true - so simply restated the provisions and claiming they are now fixed could happen) It would not have surprised me had this worked that he would have been completely happy NOT to have his name involved ... because it would trigger Trump.

I still remember when many of us were watching the CSPAN coverage of the Senate passing a Small Business bill to help New Orleans. Both Kerry and Olympia Snowe wrote bills with their committee staff - they were then combined. By the time the bill went to a vote, It was Snowe/Kerry - because the Republicans controlled the Senate. We watched (and blogged to DU JK) while voting started. There was some action we did not understand where both Kerry and Snowe left the main area. The bill's name suddenly changed to Snowe/Vitter and then many Republicans, who had refrained earlier from voting -- voted yes, on what had been a very bipartisan bill. Apparently, Kerry took his name off to insure that the bill would pass -- which it very easily did.

It is interesting that this is now out in the open. The question is whether this was BG investigative reporting or if it is a sign that the more covert action was not working and this was a gamble to allow Kerry and Moniz and others to directly speak on the issue. It could be that having all these people talking to both foreign leaders and the Congress was likely to have someone speak about it and the BG to hear and feel the need to report on it.

It is interesting that keeping the deal is now the majority opinion. I also was happy that Senator Cardin, one of the 4 Democrats who voted against it is now in favor of keeping it. (I saw him speak at a J Street conference last month where he said so. As a side note, I liked that JK tweeted a J Street letter from a few dozen Israel military/intelligence people in favor of keeping the deal.) Durbin, who was the whip who got all the Democrats except Schumer, Menendez, Cardin and Manchin to vote for the deal - getting over the 40 needed, also spoke. In retrospect, it is amazing he did that against the second strongest Democrat and the 2 top Democrats in the SFRC. Digression aside, what was said is that several no votes, now are against simply ripping up the deal.

It could be that the hope is that even if Trump again refuses to certify that Iran is in compliance or actually claims they are breaking the deal (with his own or Netanyahu's lies) that Congress will not reimpose the sanctions for the nuclear program. (If they eliminated the unnecessary Presidential certification and did not reimpose sanctions, this could continue to drift on as is.)

It could also be that the more realistic goal is to get Iran to stay in - as they sometimes say they will (followed by statements that they will leave) and for the other P5 + 1 countries to try to continue to give Iran some benefit from doing so. (Meaning just the US might be out of compliance.)

All of this, against the backdrop of Trump working with Saudi Arabia/Israel trying to solve their domestic problems by putting all the focus on Iran as the common enemy that needs to be immediately taken down or made a complete pariah to diminish any regional power they could gain.

It would be completely uncharacteristic for JK NOT to try, but the odds seem even less than the daunting odds against the agreement in the first place.

Did you see David Wade's response on twitter?




Looking though his twitter comments, Wade has a very nice analysis on Trump's attacks on the Iran deal - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wade-iran-commentary/commentary-trumps-iran-revisionism-wont-help-with-north-korea-idUSKBN1HW29A




MBS

(9,688 posts)
43. + 1000
Sun May 6, 2018, 11:22 AM
May 2018

Thanks for this thoughtful assessment and new information.
David Wade's "tweet" is, as is usual, spot on, and hilarious.
Must have been great for Kerry, as both senator and secretary of state, to have Wade at his side as chief of staff and in other roles.

marble falls

(57,124 posts)
19. I wonder if Devon Nunes will be able to appreciate the irony when the FBI and ...
Fri May 4, 2018, 11:43 PM
May 2018

Federal Marshals cop-knock on his front door someday soon.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
38. However, it is pretty ineffective
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:11 AM
May 2018

1) The Iran deal has actually gained support over Trump's term - in spite of Netanyahu, Trump and Saudi Arabia. The more Trump makes it an issue, the more likely that Moniz, Kerry and others will defend it. In fact, this might be Trump's response to Kerry's 4 tweet defense made on May 1, where he includes a J Street letter from Israeli commanders and a European source on the need to keep the deal - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wade-iran-commentary/commentary-trumps-iran-revisionism-wont-help-with-north-korea-idUSKBN1HW29A

This was a strong, focused, fact based response to Netanyahu's much derided presentation of pre deal intelligence as proof that Iran is cheating. Kerry has no platform - unlike Trump or Netanyahu. What he has is a reputation for honesty and the facts. Trump used his platform to simply lie about never leaving the table, which the US did at points - always linking to a next meeting though. He also thought it good to play to his base on Kerry's accident.

2) Kerry's accident does not reflect negatively on him. He regularly took bike rides, including demanding ones, as a stress reducer from tense, complicated negotiations. He has regularly spoken of how they help him focus. However, it is impossible to make him look unathletic --- after they blanketed the airwaves of video of him windsurfing in his late 60s!

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