Signed, California.

Fuck him!

With the VERY FIRST post. I love it!

and Mr. Trump is the customer of the day....

Just do it our way.

Love,

California

The middle being exactly what they were under Obama 😀

The smog was so bad at times the sun was a large orange ball.

AH HA!!!!!

Stay out of my state you orange asshole!

I was just a kid but I remember it clearly because I became ill breathing that garbage.

We do not need to return to those days.

Mountains just 3 miles away were invisible

We drive "affordable" vehicles in Alabama that would FAIL standards in any big city and California!

But things work themselves out - the price of gas can go so high they'll all be parked.

It always amazes me how much money the U.S. auto industry spends in order to be allowed to produce a non-competitive inferior products in a global market.

This is why we lost the once dominant auto industry to foreign competition.

So fuck off, President Half Day. I live in California now and love the fresh air. It's really nice being able to trust my lawmakers! Not many state residents can say that honestly.

The air is delightful, especially when the blooms in GG Park make it smell like perfume in my neighborhood.

Best not to confuse "we keep our air clean" with "onshore flow typically flushes our crap into the neighboring county."

Eugene was great. But every once in a while an inversion layer would trap the pollution from the 150k people who lived there in the valley and it wouldn't be nice.

(Or worse, it would trap the fog in and Skinner's Butte would be sunny up top but the entire city below would be in pea-soup-thick fog.)

Just produce a single version to the stricter California standards and your problem will be solved.

of each of their vehicles. No, they won't, because California is such a huge and profitable market they can set the pace for car makers. Automakers would rather sell expense cars like the types of vehicles that sell in California, so that's going to be the bulk of the models they will produce for every other state.

And being able to breath.

Because customers walk past the fuel efficient vehicles in the showrooms to buy something else?

That is the issue here. You can build all the fuel efficient vehicles you want, but unless people buy them you don't get credit for it against your fleet average.


Car salesperson: " Would you like to see the new Chevy Bolt? It's our newest electric car and we have several on the lot if you would like a test drive. I have one and I really love the way it performs"

Customer: " Not interested, I want to buy an all wheel drive Traverse. A guy at work has one and I really like it "

Salesperson: "The Traverse is one of our best selling models. We can hardly keep them on the lot"

DU "GM failed to meet the CAFE requirements. Don't they know people want fuel efficient cars? They should be taught a lesson & fined tens of millions for acting so irresponsibly ! "

They made huge strides under Obama with their fuel -efficient/hybrids competing with foreign ones. But it took work and R&D investment---that would not happen without the threat of fines.

More than elsewhere based on what I have seen when I traveled.

It is seriously one of the most common cars on the road.

And a Tesla is a true status item.

Politicians love cheap gas prices, but don't want people using much.

Consumers see cheap gas prices and don't make fuel economy a priority.

Auto manufacturers are caught right in the middle between these factors and CAFE

One method to get consumers to avoid vehicles with less than desirable fuel economy would be to make them financially un appealing. Higher gas taxes or registration fees would do that.

Voters would scream bloody murder, so no politician will ever propose a solution like that. Easier to blame the auto companies.

the summer.

The refineries shut down and change the mix when the season changes.

That's because the wind blows ocean air -- fresh, moist air in from the west. Miles to the East are the Sierras, the mountain range. That moist air becomes trapped by the mountains. The soot and pollution hovers against the mountain ranges and backs up into the cities where Californians drive far too many cars.

Our public transportation system in the Los Angeles area is horrible compared to cities like D.C. or New York or Chicago.

If you want to know why, watch the film Who Killed Roger Rabbit.

Anyway, we not only drive cars with lower gas mileage in general, but we get a special mix of summer gas every year.

Trump, Pruitt and the Koch Brothers should keep their noses out of California. They don't understand our rather unusual problems.

The Prius and other such low-emission cars are popular here. We are moving toward more and more solar panels. That is what works best in our pollution-prone geography.

The pollution has nowhere to go when winds blow from the ocean.

to a supplier in Redondo Beach. Our host (a CA native) told us there is a clean air band from the ocean to a certain distance inland, and that land prices were something on the order of 10X what they might be just a ways further in.

Don't recall how wide that band was but I do remember thinking what a shame that the wealthy could buy their way to a healthier environment.

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Where they live, they've got clear air. They don't want to spend money making it clean for us peons living on the east side of the 405 Freeway (the old clean air border) in the L.A. basin.

Same with security. Most all wealthy people stay in gated communities and some with private security. Or, cops give their areas high priority. After they live that way for a while (say, the ones that climbed the ladder of success), they lose sensitivity to common working people's needs. That's one reason they resent progressive taxation.

More reasons to demolish extreme levels of economic inequality and skewed asset distribution in existence world-wide today.

Thanks for the reply!......

Donnie getting for that ?

That is the typical situation for a president to negotiate with another political entity

As in Kennedy negotiating with Krushchev

For the world-destroying Pukes who have been around for decades. Fuck them all and their immoral spawn.

our elected leaders run the state as a separate country!

Can you imagine Apple saying, let's roll back innovation to create more profits?