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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts) Sat May 12, 2018, 12:11 PM May 2018

Pakistani authorities bar US diplomat from leaving country

Source: The Oklahoman

ISLAMABAD (AP) — Pakistani authorities have barred a U.S. diplomat, involved in a road accident that killed a motorcyclist in the capital Islamabad, from leaving the country.

Two security officials said Saturday that the plane at Nur Khan air base arriving to carry U.S. military attache Col. Joseph Emanuel Hall out of Pakistan has returned after he failed to get clearance. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to brief reporters.

The U.S. embassy and Pakistan's Foreign Office declined to comment.

Hall is accused of running a red light and killing Ateeq Baig on April 7.
Islamabad's High Court, noting that Hall did not have full diplomatic immunity, had directed the government to decide whether to add his name to a travel ban list.

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Pakistani authorities bar US diplomat from leaving country (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2018 OP

I'm surprised Cheeto hasn't started thumping his chest and beating the war drums yet. sandensea May 2018 #1

I think it's perfectly reasonable. christx30 May 2018 #2

Agreed. It was likely an accident, but he still needs to go through their justice system iluvtennis May 2018 #3

Except that it looks like the Turkish thugs did get away with it. Nitram May 2018 #5

The thugs shouldn't have gotten away with it. christx30 May 2018 #7

No, they shouldn't have, and it pisses me off. Nitram May 2018 #8

This is where diplomats who have over years developed ties with a country are needed karynnj May 2018 #4

And Pakistan is still pissed off the US secretly violated Pakistani air space, killed bin Laden, Nitram May 2018 #6

Not as pissed as we should have been that they were hiding him. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #9

Agreed. Pakistan was more embarrassed than anything else. Nitram May 2018 #10

sandensea

(21,635 posts)

1. I'm surprised Cheeto hasn't started thumping his chest and beating the war drums yet.

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat May 12, 2018, 12:29 PM

May 2018

His deplorables are waiting.

christx30

(6,241 posts)

2. I think it's perfectly reasonable.

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat May 12, 2018, 01:56 PM

May 2018

You get a parking ticket, those should be dismissed.
You kill someone, that's a totally different thing. That can't be waved away with diplomatic immunity. We wouldn't want those guys from Turkey to get away with beating our citizens in Washington DC. We can't let our guys get away with vehicular manslaughter, especially if you run a red light.
I wish him luck, but I think Pakistan is right here.

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)

3. Agreed. It was likely an accident, but he still needs to go through their justice system

Reply to christx30 (Reply #2)

Sat May 12, 2018, 02:02 PM

May 2018

Nitram

(22,801 posts)

5. Except that it looks like the Turkish thugs did get away with it.

Reply to christx30 (Reply #2)

Sat May 12, 2018, 06:43 PM

May 2018

The article says he didn't have "full" diplomatic immunity, so they are not talking about "waiving" diplomatic immunity.

christx30

(6,241 posts)

7. The thugs shouldn't have gotten away with it.

Reply to Nitram (Reply #5)

Sat May 12, 2018, 07:00 PM

May 2018

And it irritates me that Trump let them.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)

8. No, they shouldn't have, and it pisses me off.

Reply to christx30 (Reply #7)

Sat May 12, 2018, 07:03 PM

May 2018

karynnj

(59,503 posts)

4. This is where diplomats who have over years developed ties with a country are needed

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat May 12, 2018, 03:18 PM

May 2018

In fact, a worse incident, from the Pakistani view, happened in Lahore Pakistan in 2011. A CIA operative, with diplomatic paperwork shot and killed two people who were petty criminals. The CIA "clean up" people accidentally hit and killed another. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/20/cia-agent-lahore-civilian-deaths

Note, Davis was with the CIA. He left Pakistan in March 2011, after the Obama administration with the help of SFRC chair John Kerry, who had better relations than most with Pakistan helped broker his release.

OBL was killed in Pakistan in May 2011. Before the Davis issue was resolved, it had become known he was likely CIA and there were calls to throw the CIA out of Pakistan. Did resolving the Davis issue preserve the OBL task?