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Judi Lynn

(160,601 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:44 PM May 2018

White, straight and Christian: Dallas County candidate admits rewarding his kids if they marry withi

Source: Dallas News

White, straight and Christian: Dallas County candidate admits rewarding his kids if they marry within race
AT 1 HR AGO
Naomi Martin, Reporter

Vickers “Vic” Cunningham, a former criminal district judge now in a Republican runoff for Dallas County commissioner, acknowledged Friday that he set up a living trust with a clause rewarding his children if they marry a white person.

Cunningham spoke to The Dallas Morning News about the trust after his estranged brother, Bill Cunningham, came to the paper earlier this week saying his brother had been a lifelong racist.

Vic Cunningham denied harboring racial bigotry but did confirm one of his brother’s primary allegations — that his trust includes a stipulation intended to discourage a child from marrying a person of another race or of the same sex.

“I strongly support traditional family values,” Cunningham said. “If you marry a person of the opposite sex that’s Caucasian, that’s Christian, they will get a distribution.”

Read more: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas-county/2018/05/18/marry-white-straight-christian-dallas-county-politician-admits-rewarding-kids-within-traditional-family-values



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White, straight and Christian: Dallas County candidate admits rewarding his kids if they marry withi (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2018 OP
Yeah, he fits the phenotype. Aristus May 2018 #1
He certainly does. sandensea May 2018 #23
Who'd want to marry into this ugly family? kimbutgar May 2018 #2
Not a good political gambit in present-day Dallas. Paladin May 2018 #3
A good fit into the Westboro Baptist Church. keithbvadu2 May 2018 #4
Or most Southern Baptist Churches.... paleotn May 2018 #6
Kudos to the estranged brother. Let the voters decide- but ... salin May 2018 #5
Wow. Is being white part of "family values," now? nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #7
+1 dalton99a May 2018 #10
Always was. sandensea May 2018 #22
Guessing that he is a Protestant, would it be ok if the kids married Mormons? keithbvadu2 May 2018 #8
"I strongly support traditional family values" Marie Marie May 2018 #9
Dallas Morning News rescinds endorsement dalton99a May 2018 #11
What a puckered little bunghole! hatrack May 2018 #12
He does not say that they have to marry White Cold War Spook May 2018 #13
Many other people do this SCantiGOP May 2018 #15
Does your sect have any similar restrictions? hunter May 2018 #19
Thankfully, no one is arguing as such. LanternWaste May 2018 #21
Why do I get the impression that if his children give into this set of extortion tactics, they can politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #14
Looks like the pos certainly can change his Trust if his children agree. Never discriminate? OMFG! Izzy Blue May 2018 #16
I gather there are no grandchildren yet to carry on the Cunningham Cone Head...LOL Izzy Blue May 2018 #17
"Even his own mom calls him a bigot," Izzy Blue May 2018 #18
What makes that asshole think this kind of thing is OK? Initech May 2018 #20

Aristus

(66,446 posts)
1. Yeah, he fits the phenotype.
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:54 PM
May 2018

They might as well be wearing a sign.

Just once, I'd like to see a guy who looks like Dabney Coleman, but is a raging, hard-core lefty.

Paladin

(28,271 posts)
3. Not a good political gambit in present-day Dallas.
Fri May 18, 2018, 08:17 PM
May 2018

Forty years ago he could have gotten away with it.

paleotn

(17,946 posts)
6. Or most Southern Baptist Churches....
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:03 PM
May 2018

At least the Westboro cult publicly admits to their racism and homophobia. There are inches between what the two groups believe.

salin

(48,955 posts)
5. Kudos to the estranged brother. Let the voters decide- but ...
Fri May 18, 2018, 08:55 PM
May 2018

give those voters a real picture of the candidate per his serious actions (words in speeches are much less core to the person, than the words in his will - per how he views his family members and their future.)

keithbvadu2

(36,887 posts)
8. Guessing that he is a Protestant, would it be ok if the kids married Mormons?
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:34 PM
May 2018

If it says what religion he is, I missed it.

Guessing that he is a Protestant, would it be ok if the kids married Mormons?

Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
9. "I strongly support traditional family values"
Fri May 18, 2018, 10:20 PM
May 2018

So how long before we find out what is hiding in his past, present or future? There is always something hiding there with these family value types.

dalton99a

(81,569 posts)
11. Dallas Morning News rescinds endorsement
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:42 AM
May 2018
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2018/05/18/withdraw-vickers-cunninghamrecommendation-gop-runoff-dallas-county-commissioners-court-precinct-2

We withdraw Vickers Cunningham recommendation in GOP runoff for Dallas County Commissioners Court Precinct 2
Dallas Morning News Editorial

...

Cunningham, speaking to The Dallas Morning News on Friday about this trust, said his views on interracial marriage have evolved since 2010, thanks in part to his son's involvement with a woman of Vietnamese origin. But he said he cannot change the terms of the trust.

Additionally, Cunningham's estranged brother, Bill, told this newspaper that his brother has used the N-word for years, a claim echoed by Amanda Tackett, a former D magazine writer who is close to Bill Cunningham and worked on Vickers Cunningham's 2006 campaign for Dallas County district attorney.

While Cunningham denies using the N-word, the reporting by The News' Naomi Martin leaves us unwilling to recommend him to potentially lead and serve Dallas County.



 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
13. He does not say that they have to marry White
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:31 AM
May 2018

He is saying that if they want his money they have to marry White. Not just White Christians do it. Some Orthodox Jews will disown a child who marries a non-Jew and some say the child has to marry an Orthodox Jew. I don't know about other people.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
15. Many other people do this
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:33 PM
May 2018

Hindus, and not only Muslims but Shia and Sunni will insist on marriage within their sect.

hunter

(38,325 posts)
19. Does your sect have any similar restrictions?
Sun May 20, 2018, 01:23 PM
May 2018

I'm just curious how you came up with your example.

In my own Wild West family, living in Mormon territory, our family religion was "Not Mormon." When I was a kid, many Mormon kids in our neighborhood were banned by their parents from playing at our house. That separation started a long time ago. My last immigrant ancestor was a mail order bride to Salt Lake City. She didn't like sharing a husband so she ran off with a monogamous not-Mormon guy.

Other than "Not Mormon" there's no religious tradition in my family that stands out. My mom was Jehovah's Witness when I was a kid until they booted her out because she couldn't stay out of politics. (It was ugly, bouncers-at-the-doors-of-the-Kingdom-Hall ugly.) Culturally my mom's a Social Justice Catholic, but she'd had a bad experience with the Church, and the Jehovah's Witnesses were her reaction to that. After that we were Quakers, which was following another family thread.

Of course my family did have it's own cultural restrictions. One of my grandfathers was very upset when I decided to marry, in his words, "a Mexican girl." Men in his family simply didn't do that. He boycotted our wedding. To his credit, he got over it. His own ancestors probably had similar admonishments about marrying Irish Catholics, nevertheless some of them did.

I'm some kind of Social Justice Catholic. My wife and I raised our kids Catholic in a place where the Church is liberal. It wouldn't have been possible in Fox News U.S.A. where the church reflects the community. The Catholic Church is not monolithic. Liberal Priests go to Liberal Communities, fascist Priests go to fascist communities. My parents used to live in Republican California and attending Mass there was like visiting Oklahoma. Bill O'Reilly would have felt right at home.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Thankfully, no one is arguing as such.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:17 PM
May 2018

"He does not say that they have to marry White..."

Thankfully, no one is arguing as such.

Nor do I see anyone here arguing the practice as valid regardless of religion or philosophy used to rationalize it, so you're example is either irrelevant to the discussion ta hand, or simply part and parcel of your own agenda.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
14. Why do I get the impression that if his children give into this set of extortion tactics, they can
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:48 PM
May 2018

expect an adult lifetime of more such demands. If this 'father' is that selfish, that he values his own happiness more than he values his children's happiness, I'd tell him what to do with his distribution, and I'd be out of there in record speed. And my decision would have nothing to do with my being afraid that secretly I couldn't measure up to his established criteria for 'earning' the distribution, but the fact that he felt he had the right to dictate my personal adult decisions, for a price. If you give into his demands now, the list will continue to grow, because that's what controlling parents do. Parents who love their children unconditionally, don't make such demands.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
16. Looks like the pos certainly can change his Trust if his children agree. Never discriminate? OMFG!
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:17 PM
May 2018
What is an 'Irrevocable Trust'

"An irrevocable trust can't be modified or terminated without the beneficiary's permission. The grantor, having transferred assets into the trust, effectively removes all of his rights of ownership to the assets and the trust. This is the opposite of a revocable trust, which allows the grantor to modify the trust.

Read more: Irrevocable Trust https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/irrevocabletrust.asp#ixzz5FzZJqOjn
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Judge Vic Cunningham for County Commissioner
4 hrs ·

A PERSONAL NOTE FROM VIC



A PERSONAL NOTE FROM VIC

"As you can imagine, the recent DMN article has caused much pain for my family and me. I have spent a lifetime in service to my community and church, building a reputation of integrity, and these events truly hurt my heart. I take full responsibility for the terms of the trust my children would have to meet upon marriage to receive an advance from their trust. This trust was set-up during a time of concerned feelings about my brother Bill’s gay lifestyle. My views on interracial marriage have evolved since I set-up the irrevocable trust in 2010, and today I would absolutely remove those conditions if I legally could.

My brother Bill has become very estranged from the rest of the family but not because he is gay, rather because he took extreme advantage of our elderly parents and convinced them to lend him over $500,000 with no intention or ability to repay. He went back repeatedly to our mother until she had given him her last dollar, and even then he maxed out her credit card without her knowledge. His total disrespect of my parents caused them to write him out of their will. It was not until after our Dad died that we found out the magnitude of deceit. It was during this time that Bill asked me for a $250,000 loan. Apparently, I was not a racist then, but am now?

Just a few months ago, he tried to get $45,000 more from
Mom, pleading if she didn’t give him money he would lose his house. She refused, as did I as her trustee. After he found out that our mother had written him out of her will, he became even more hateful toward her and our family. My brother is a master manipulator bent on destroying my entire family, as he said he would. Both my other brothers have also cut off all contact with Bill. He has ripped our family apart.

Also brought out in the article was that I freely used the ‘N-word”. The Dallas Morning News chose to attribute these allegations to one person, a good friend of my brother I hardly knew, and last saw in 2006. Her statement is without collaboration. I categorically deny using the “N-word”. I have never, and will never discriminate against anyone based upon race, religion, color, creed, or sexual orientation.

My campaign was told by J.J. Koch that he had this information months ago, presumably from Bill, and was going to use it in the campaign, which he has done at the most politically opportune time for him. J.J. even chased my daughter out of a forum she was leaving just last week, and got in her face and bragged this was coming. This should smack to everyone as political opportunism of the worst kind. All Republicans should question the timing of this exposé. Win at all costs, destroy everyone in your path just to win, is how J.J. Koch and his consultant Matt Langston have run their campaign.

I hope you will stand with me in this election. I am far from perfect, I ask that you forgive my faults, see the good, and fight back against the politics of personal destruction by my opponent.

My brother Bill has become very estranged from the rest of the family but not because he is gay, rather because he took extreme advantage of our elderly parents and convinced them to lend him over $500,000 with no intention or ability to repay. He went back repeatedly to our mother until she had given him her last dollar, and even then he maxed out her credit card without her knowledge. His total disrespect of my parents caused them to write him out of their will. It was not until after our Dad died that we found out the magnitude of deceit. It was during this time that Bill asked me for a $250,000 loan. Apparently, I was not a racist then, but am now?

Just a few months ago, he tried to get $45,000 more from
Mom, pleading if she didn’t give him money he would lose his house. She refused, as did I as her trustee. After he found out that our mother had written him out of her will, he became even more hateful toward her and our family. My brother is a master manipulator bent on destroying my entire family, as he said he would. Both my other brothers have also cut off all contact with Bill. He has ripped our family apart.

Also brought out in the article was that I freely used the ‘N-word”. The Dallas Morning News chose to attribute these allegations to one person, a good friend of my brother I hardly knew, and last saw in 2006. Her statement is without collaboration. I categorically deny using the “N-word”. I have never, and will never discriminate against anyone based upon race, religion, color, creed, or sexual orientation.

My campaign was told by J.J. Koch that he had this information months ago, presumably from Bill, and was going to use it in the campaign, which he has done at the most politically opportune time for him. J.J. even chased my daughter out of a forum she was leaving just last week, and got in her face and bragged this was coming. This should smack to everyone as political opportunism of the worst kind. All Republicans should question the timing of this exposé. Win at all costs, destroy everyone in your path just to win, is how J.J. Koch and his consultant Matt Langston have run their campaign.

I hope you will stand with me in this election. I am far from perfect, I ask that you forgive my faults, see the good, and fight back against the politics of personal destruction by my opponent."
 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
18. "Even his own mom calls him a bigot,"
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:35 PM
May 2018
" but former judge Vickers Cunningham insists his opposition to interracial and same-sex marriage didn’t affect his rulings"

Snip:

"Bill Cunningham says his brother has threatened him — which Vickers Cunningham denies ― and also provided a recorded conversation to The Dallas Morning News in which their mother, Mina Cunningham, reportedly said, “All I can do is apologize for Vic and this way that he thinks. He’s so bigoted and so forth as we all know.”

A number of people also told the outlet that Vickers Cunningham often uses the racial slur n****r, which he denied.

The GOP political hopeful is running to be commissioner in Dallas County, where black and Latino people make up the majority of the population. That was also the case when he worked as criminal district judge in the county for nearly a decade.

Cunningham insisted to the newspaper that his opposition to interracial, same-sex marriages for his own children “never translated to unfairness on the bench or discrimination in any way.”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vickers-cunningham-pays-kids-for-marrying-white_us_5aff9cfee4b0a046186baa8d
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