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BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:21 AM May 2018

Prominent Southern Baptist leader removed as seminary president following controversial remarks

Source: Washington Post

FORT WORTH — Prominent Southern Baptist leader Paige Patterson was removed from his job as president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary amid an evangelical #MeToo moment: a massive backlash from women upset over comments he made in the past that are being newly perceived as sexist and demeaning. According to a brief statement early Wednesday, the seminary’s board of trustees made him president emeritus, “for the benefit of the future mission of the Seminary,” and he will receive compensation.

After 13 hours of closed-door sessions, the seminary’s trustees appointed D. Jeffrey Bingham, the seminary’s dean of the school of theology, as interim president. Bingham has worked for numerous evangelical institutions, including Criswell College, Dallas Theological Seminary and Wheaton College.

The seminary board’s decision, announced by its chairman, Kevin Ueckert, will likely come as a big relief to the thousands of women who had called for Patterson’s removal, said Karen Swallow Prior, an English professor at Liberty University who attends a Southern Baptist church. “Misogyny and disrespecting women has nothing to do with scriptural teaching,” Prior said.

A quorum of about 30 male trustees and three female trustees of the 1,200-student Texas seminary were present for a meeting that began Tuesday afternoon to discuss the fate of Patterson, a past president of the Southern Baptist Convention who has been revered as a giant for standing guard for decades against liberalizing changes.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/05/23/prominent-southern-baptist-leader-removed-as-seminary-president-following-controversial-remarks-about-abused-women/?utm_term=.40542b1e0f6b&wpisrc=al_news__alert-national&wpmk=1



Full headline: Prominent Southern Baptist leader removed as seminary president following controversial remarks about abused women

It's incredible how much these orgs have twisted into pretzels to uphold the behavior of the occupant of the WH.
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Prominent Southern Baptist leader removed as seminary president following controversial remarks (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2018 OP
But they still aren't firing him. Or disputing him. He's only apolgizing to some of those he... marble falls May 2018 #1
Not suprising Boomer May 2018 #2
They certainly have no problem forgiving themselves and applying a meaningless veneer of 'change'. marble falls May 2018 #3
Yes, the Southern Baptists are pretty much hopeless. LuvNewcastle May 2018 #4
I though I had gone all day without being called an asshole. TomSlick May 2018 #16
Thank you for your efforts Boomer May 2018 #17
Religious institutions change slowly and only from within. TomSlick May 2018 #18
The "baby steps" of women in that denomination finally opening an eyelid or two BumRushDaShow May 2018 #6
Removed - given a raise - replaced by someone who thinks just like him Runningdawg May 2018 #5
White Male Supremacy is Resilient dlk May 2018 #7
Since there isn't a synagogue withing 50 miles, Cold War Spook May 2018 #8
a Jewish synagogue? Mosby May 2018 #19
Is there any other kind? Cold War Spook May 2018 #20
huh. Mosby May 2018 #21
I read the story.... Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #9
Some punishment. A golden parachute sweetheart deal. catbyte May 2018 #10
PaulPressler, his fellow SBC leader, now indicted 4 molesting boys 4 decades. bobbieinok May 2018 #11
Is Paige still keynote speaker at SBC convention that's coming up? bobbieinok May 2018 #12
They still list him on the "meetings" portion of the program BumRushDaShow May 2018 #13
It is a no win situation for them. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #14
"the only way to remove misogyny from the Bible is to rewrite it" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #15

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
1. But they still aren't firing him. Or disputing him. He's only apolgizing to some of those he...
Wed May 23, 2018, 07:33 AM
May 2018

was so inappropriately judgemental towards. This is a superficial change not any sort of refutation of his terrible remarks.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
2. Not suprising
Wed May 23, 2018, 07:47 AM
May 2018

Southern Baptists are about as conservative as you can get. It's a wonder they let their women wear shoes and leave the kitchen.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
4. Yes, the Southern Baptists are pretty much hopeless.
Wed May 23, 2018, 07:54 AM
May 2018

You have to be an asshole to fit in with them.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
16. I though I had gone all day without being called an asshole.
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:32 PM
May 2018

There are still some of us working from within to teach basic Christian concepts to Southern Baptists.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
17. Thank you for your efforts
Wed May 23, 2018, 07:45 PM
May 2018

It's challenging to effect change from within institutions that are so divorced from the principles they claim to champion. I'm ambivalent about that tactic, about the implicit consent one gives by remaining within those institutions, but it's very much an individual choice to make.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
18. Religious institutions change slowly and only from within.
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:23 PM
May 2018

If people who have actually read the Gospels leave the Church only those who have not will remain.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
6. The "baby steps" of women in that denomination finally opening an eyelid or two
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:08 AM
May 2018

and actually expressing some "outrage" instead of doubling-down by accepting that type of heinous discourse (and insisting he remain in that position of power), is still a small crack in that edifice of male domination.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
8. Since there isn't a synagogue withing 50 miles,
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:16 AM
May 2018

I joined a First Baptist Church. I did not know there was such a difference between First and Southern. I mean we do talk about God and Jesus, but I think we talk more about food. I did make one mistake early on. One of the men asked our pastor why God stopped Abraham but not Jephthah. The pastor looked at me and I stood and said I would like to answer. We then discussed the next covered dish meal.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
20. Is there any other kind?
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:10 AM
May 2018

In Boston I went to a conservative temple but was taught and had my Bar Mitzvah at an Orthodox shul. Went to Unitarian services in San Francisco. In Florida it was back to Orthodox shul and sometime to a Catholic church. Never went to a mosque, don't know why since I was stationed in a Muslim country.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
12. Is Paige still keynote speaker at SBC convention that's coming up?
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:57 AM
May 2018

Some commenters at the blog - thewartburgwatch.com - have sarcastically wondered how meeting in the Kay Baily Hutchinson Center is compatible with SBC's view of female subordination!!

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
13. They still list him on the "meetings" portion of the program
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:14 AM
May 2018

On 6/13/18 (morning) giving an "Evangelical Report" (10 minutes) but he's not on the list of speakers for the "Pastor's Conference" portion.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. It is a no win situation for them.
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:39 AM
May 2018

I grew up Southern Baptist and they really can’t remove blatant misogyny from their teachings as it would absolutely destroy their entire interpretation of the Bible. Of course the only way to remove misogyny from the Bible is to rewrite it and give the entire thing new meaning.

It is a list of myths from a hierarchical, Iron Age society. Of course it is rooted in misogyny.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
15. "the only way to remove misogyny from the Bible is to rewrite it"
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:19 AM
May 2018

There are dozens and dozens of "versions" of "the Bible" ("old" testament, i.e., the Torah, plus "new" testament), depending on how it was translated from Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, and Latin, including what was considered "valid", and what was "removed" (e.g., what are known as the "apocrypha", including texts about women).

There was this event (afterwhich splits occurred between "eastern" and "western" ) and this event, that lead to all sorts of protestant ("protest" ) denominations with their own interpretations.

In general, the various "versions" of the texts evolved from whatever survived time, and were manipulated to create theologies designed to maintain and strengthen societies built around patriarchies.

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