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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Wed May 23, 2018, 12:04 PM May 2018

Scientists plan DNA hunt for Loch Ness monster next month

Source: Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - A global team of scientists plans to scour the icy depths of Loch Ness next month using environmental DNA (eDNA) in an experiment that may discover whether Scotland’s fabled monster really does, or did, exist.

The use of eDNA sampling is already well established as a tool for monitoring marine life like whales and sharks.

Whenever a creature moves through its environment, it leaves behind tiny fragments of DNA from skin, scales, feathers, fur, faeces and urine.

“This DNA can be captured, sequenced and then used to identify that creature by comparing the sequence obtained to large databases of known genetic sequences from hundreds of thousands of different organisms,” said team spokesman Professor Neil Gemmell of the University of Otago in New Zealand.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-scotland-monster/scientists-plan-dna-hunt-for-loch-ness-monster-next-month-idUSKCN1IO1A5



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SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
1. There is no Loch Ness "Monster"
Wed May 23, 2018, 12:19 PM
May 2018

But it would be interesting to see the results, even though they wouldn't have any DNA from any distinct "Monster" on file I'd think.

A nationally known marine artist and researcher said it best years ago that if there were any unkown marine life in the Loch "It would be seen regularly swimming on the surface and feeding and being a part of the environment every day"

Just like every other air breathing animal in the Seas, think about that for a moment, if it was in the Loch everybody would see it, all the time.

And as for DNA?, I would think the DNA of thousands of people are already in those waters due to people living around the loch along with numerous aquatic creatures.

Good luck.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. There will probably be a lot to learn
Wed May 23, 2018, 02:07 PM
May 2018

about microorganisms, pollutants, and so on.

The study is interesting enough even if that's all they get.

Oneironaut

(5,495 posts)
2. That would be pretty funny if, after all this, there really was a Loch Ness monster.
Wed May 23, 2018, 12:38 PM
May 2018

Of course, if it were found, it would be killed by a poacher in a matter of days.

I’m not a believer, though. Don’t think we’ll need to worry about it.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
3. The Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist. I wish it did, but it doesn't.
Wed May 23, 2018, 12:51 PM
May 2018

Certainly the monster in the photo exists only as a sculpture perched atop a toy submarine and then photographed.

It would be so cool if what most people suspect, that the 'monster' is a superannuated pleisiosaur cut off from the ocean when the Loch formed at the end of the last ice age, is true. But there is absolutely no evidence of it.

In fact, the only 'monster' we know of for sure to be in loch is a prop monster which sank in the loch during the filming of The Private Life Of Sherlock Holmes.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
7. Might be a chance for a little fishing and I'll have to check the local pubs for local knowledge too
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:21 PM
May 2018


Hey, I even have a 2.3 in biology from Ohio U.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. What a fucking waste of resources!
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:19 PM
May 2018

Little boys diddling with their toys.

No scientists are in on this, I hope. Only true blue Loch Ness believers.

The funny thing is that if they find nothing, it won't make any difference. They'll be yet another expedition next year, and the next, and the next.

At least the Scottish tourist trade will get some benefit.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
14. " A global team of scientists" - the hunt for DNA is real
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:01 PM
May 2018

Scientists to Hunt for Loch Ness Monster DNA

An international group of researchers will soon collect this environmental DNA for the first time in Loch Ness. They will take around 300 samples of water from three different depths. They will then extract DNA fragments from the water, sequence the fragments and compare them to databases of animal DNA that are already known to see if there are any matches — or not.

https://www.livescience.com/62646-hunt-for-loch-ness-monster-dna.html

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. You should tell the scientific community they're doing it wrong.
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:30 PM
May 2018

You should tell the scientific community they're doing it wrong.

Make sure to support your work with peer-reviewed, objective petulance. They'll most certainly allow you all the credibility you in fact, warrant.

longship

(40,416 posts)
16. I give it all the credibility it deserves.
Wed May 23, 2018, 05:39 PM
May 2018

I.E., None whatsoever.

I stand by my claim that there are very few scientists involved with this lunacy, only Loch Ness Monster true believers.

Anyway, what the fuck is DNA going to tell them? The entire thing makes no damned sense whatsoever.

The surgeon's photograph has always been a fraud. Pop culture took over from there.

There is no Loch Ness monster. Never was.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
17. ....
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:43 PM
May 2018


All kidding aside, limnologists determined that it would have to be a detritovore to live in that lake - not enough productivity for a even a small population of piscivores.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
8. Which right wing group is putting up the funds for this?
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:45 PM
May 2018

Got to remember that right-wingers think that the Loch Ness proves there is no evolution, and the Earth is thousands of years old. They think Loch Ness is real.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
12. I hope Prof Gemmell has thought through how he'll defend throwing his reputation in the shitter
Wed May 23, 2018, 02:33 PM
May 2018

He better be pretty confident the "other results" can justify the expense. Every scientist knows there's no population of Loch Ness Monsters - you can't hide a viable number of large air-breathing animals in a confined space like that.

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