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a legal scholar if they bit him in the ass. I also don't think he wrote that.

Both have publicly admitted to their client breaking the law.

From Prof. Tribe and others https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-trump-cant-pardon-himself-the-constitution-tells-us-so/2017/07/21/f3445d74-6e49-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html?utm_term=.a066d8b411f4

... then we'll all watch while SCOTUS slams the door in his face! It's going to be epic.

so this epic drama series should fill the lull. 😁

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Why would you go through the trouble of declaring (falsely, most likely) that you have the power to pardon yourself, if you've done nothing wrong?


NVM, I know the answer to that one.

if a president or anyone else could pardon themselves from all crimes. I think his so called legal scholars need some educating.

Not that he cares as long as the GOP is profiting off him.

Whatever. This is not how innocent people act or speak.

"[The President] shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

I hope New York enacts the law whereby it can prosecute Trump.

If only the FF had the gift of future peering of their established but evolving Constitution. Could they have ever imagined such a corrupt, treasonous, defiant President and Congress. I think not. With all their forethought why in heaven’s name would they empower an executive to pardon he and his partners crimes? How utterly foolish. Their horror at what they (FF) spawned would create a subterranean whirlwind of casket spinning enough to power a sun lasting beyond the universe demise.

Is that they were and had been patriotic gentlemen and scholars and assumed that anyone who held office would always be so. They were more suspicious of other corrupt figures who would try to railroad their honorable colleagues into jail under false pretenses.

Those were different times.

I think that so many of the problems we face as a country today can be traced back to the aftermath of the Civil War. We basically let the south come back in with little more than a show of groveling. We should have been much, much harder on them after the war. We did almost nothing to change southern culture after the Civil War and let their leadership get away with so much. Plus we put a fatal flaw into the 13th Amendment that allowed for legalized slavery as long as it was punishment for a crime. I think it set up the conditions that allowed people like Nixon and Trump to get in by playing to the racial hatred of their constituents.

to our and their shame. Introspection is the avoidance of thinking and nonthinking humanity.

“No man is allowed to be a judge in his own cause, because his interest would certainly bias his judgment, and, not improbably, corrupt his integrity.”
James Madison, The Federalist Papers #10

Next he'll claim that numerous religious scholars have testified he can rise from the dead.

I seem to recall it there or was it I or II Thessalonians? “That man of sin...” (and we could add any number of appropriate degradations of humanity) to the list. The mythic character type portrayed in the proposed prophesies can be easily applied.

He seems bent on fulfilling any and all the worst end time scenarios if the buybill flappers would only pay attention.

no Christ that’s for sure. That old “deceiver”, “roaring lion” “accuser of the brethern “ pulled right out of the crusty book used by the likes of F Graham, P Robertson, J Haggee. This is becoming so surreal.

This is our MAJOR problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have an OBSTRUCTING CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lunatic occupying the WH claims we have

and all bank accounts. This is theft, pure and simple, by any measure of political theory

I want to see this whole regime marched off in handcuffs sooner rather than later.

This is getting truly distressing. I keep picturing this Trump as Judge Dredd:

"I AM DA LAW!"

We are in the midst of a true constitutional crisis here (yes I know we HAVE been, but this is another stark reminder.) This Trump's latest series of tweets demonstrate he is getting more and more unhinged. However he finally leaves the White House, I do not see it happening without bloodshed, provoked by him.

his whole life, his family has pardoned him for his behavior, so naturally he thinks that's how he gets out of this job. My question is how in the hell has he skated on his act for all this time? Why hasn't he been convicted of any of his fraud, financial cheats, mob activity? How has he skated this long? That guy!?!

Following that logic, a candidate could hire a hit man to take out his/her opponents, winning by default. The hit man and everyone involved could then be pardoned.

Or... a candidate could steal billions, then use that money to buy his/her way into office. The crime of theft could be pardoned.

Preposterous. Self-pardon is straight up abuse of power.

I assume not all of them want a dictator ruling over them.

constitutional duty of impeachment and removal as they have zero choice in the manner...without huge political fallout for next election. Trump never had a civics class is so obviious

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Get Out of Jail FREE card.

Sort of like a Middle Ages' Plenary Indulgence for the earthly crowd.

Courts would laugh so he'd have to delineate the transgressions for which he pardons himself.

This is not jurisprudence. This is Narcissistic Drama Queen's Public Confessional.

Confess and Pardon. Isn't that the meaning of the word "trump"?

I wish we'd cease the "quote & rehash" method of declamation. The stream of BS is not only unworthy of repetition, it smply amplifies the echo effect. Blanket renunciation is more fitting
when addressing an unending barrage of lies, from a cadre of dominion seekers whose words
serve only their purpose of rending the republic. Make no mistake: they are traitors intent on dismantling the USA, who would rather rule myriad tiny Hells than reach toward a peaceful, fair,
United society.

I didn't do it, but if I had.....

Dotard.

"Over Twitter, President Donald Trump on Monday said he has the power to pardon himself".


What we must know and understand:

An honest and honorable man, needs no Pardon... and it is highly evident by the nature and virtues which led the minds and hearts of the framers of the United States Constitution who clearly understood this fact very well !!! within their works they as a collective of wise and thinking men, would 'NEVER" have conferred such an insidious power in the hands of any elected official and certainly not in the hands of any sitting President to Pardon Himself. That would be akin to establishing a basis for Dictatorship.


Let' not the wiles of evil men contort the systems of this United States, its Constitution and violate the virtures of its own Declaration of Independence.

The mere thought and claim of a President Pardoning himself, Insults and seeks to Usurp the very Declaration of Independence that Established this nation.


Such men who propose such commentary "as if any President can Pardon himself" is an aim to usurp the system and dignity of the Declarations of Independence which was established with firm conviction against any level or acts of Dictatorships, and anyone as being ones who commit such a claim of Absolute Power represents the most vile of Treasonous Acts and Subversive Conduct against America and All that America Stands For, and the penalty of the highest order should be given to them.

was to free ourselves from having a King?

"Absolute" is a dangerous word when it comes from a dictator wannabe. That is a word of monarchs and tyrants.

doesn't make it so.

That's rapidly getting to be the only question I have left to ask.

with Little Louie the Snake and everyone plotting how they're going to get away with it

Next he’ll claim he can hold his right elbow in his right hand. Be careful what you wish for.

They'd say he violated his oath to uphold the Constitution. And they'd be right.

But when Trump says he's above the law, the GOP stays silent....or agrees with him.

Sickening.

to go fuck himself

do you think everyone that was convicted of a federal crime should just come out and say that they can pardon themselves, that's basically what you are saying, that "you" are above the rule of law, your fucking not asshole...............and it does not say anything in the Constitution Rudi or the sexual predator that he may "pardon" himself, the president..............fucking November cannot get here fast enough for the end of this dog and pony show of bull shit.......................I hate fucking traitors and there enablers of bull shit of deflection...........................your a FUCKING HABITUAL LIAR......................end of story....................and then the country has the right wing enablers in Congress.............not saying a fucking thing.....................but going after the DOJ and the FBI....................what could possibly go wrong...................the failing of a republic going into a third rate state......................in the making..................

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L. Patrick Gray: I know I'm in there! If I don't come out with my hands up, I'm coming in after me!