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orangecrush

(19,573 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:50 PM Jun 2018

Democrats warn Trump on pardon powers: 'You are not a king'

Source: Politico

As President Donald Trump claims an "absolute right" to pardon himself, top Democratic lawmakers are countering with their own message: "You are not a king."

"The restoration of King George lll without his splendid education,morals,or grace," Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), a member of the House Judiciary Committee, tweeted, linking to Trump's post claiming unfettered power to pardon himself for any potential crimes.


Cohen's rejoinder followed a similar comparison by Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee. Nader noted that no president had ever tried to pardon himself and that the framers of the Constitution believed such a notion was "inherently corrupt."



A third Democrat on the committee also rejected Trump's argument for a similar reason: "Let me remind you of something, we don't live in a monarchy and you are not a king," said Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.).

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/06/04/trump-pardon-tweet-620658



Shot across the bow.
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Democrats warn Trump on pardon powers: 'You are not a king' (Original Post) orangecrush Jun 2018 OP
Dems need to remind him every day of how corrupt he and his family are. louis-t Jun 2018 #1
Daily orangecrush Jun 2018 #3
King of the Turds lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #2
The "King" orangecrush Jun 2018 #5
BOOM! There you go RUMP and G...in no uncertain words, this fact has been made clear! nt SWBTATTReg Jun 2018 #4
Let it sink in orangecrush Jun 2018 #6
Even monarchs these days don't have the powers that Spanky thinks he does. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2018 #7
He is claiming powers orangecrush Jun 2018 #10
It goes back at least to the Magna Carta of 1215. Dave Starsky Jun 2018 #12
Well put. orangecrush Jun 2018 #25
No, but dictators do. pangaia Jun 2018 #29
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #8
Thanks for the rec! orangecrush Jun 2018 #26
Down with the Stinking Draft-Dodging King (R) Achilleaze Jun 2018 #9
The silence of the Republicans is deafening Liberalagogo Jun 2018 #11
I've been stunned by the universality of their complicity and their silence. MBS Jun 2018 #15
it will be remembered orangecrush Jun 2018 #27
Waiting to hear Republican response ThoughtCriminal Jun 2018 #13
"just following orders" orangecrush Jun 2018 #24
He reminds me more of Henry VIII. Nt spooky3 Jun 2018 #14
Certainly the girth and the vulgarity fits. MBS Jun 2018 #16
Agree orangecrush Jun 2018 #23
He is closer to Stalin and Idi Amin. pangaia Jun 2018 #30
I'm afraid you're right. MBS Jun 2018 #31
And Trump would be doing what True Blue American Jun 2018 #18
And, like George III, Henry VIII also had a 'splendid education.' Aristus Jun 2018 #19
Not just Democrats True Blue American Jun 2018 #17
Something is going down orangecrush Jun 2018 #22
KnR. Even kings have checks on their powers. He is a wannabe dictator. nt Hekate Jun 2018 #20
AGREE 100% orangecrush Jun 2018 #21
they should paraphrase everything with "this republican president wants to be king" Javaman Jun 2018 #28
Over and over orangecrush Jun 2018 #32
+100 Duppers Jun 2018 #33
... orangecrush Jun 2018 #37
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #34
Thanks for reading! orangecrush Jun 2018 #35
.. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #36

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
1. Dems need to remind him every day of how corrupt he and his family are.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:53 PM
Jun 2018

Then stand back and watch the fireworks. Even deplorables will begin to question how much time he spends screaming at people and not doing much presidentin'.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. King of the Turds
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jun 2018

a legend in his own mind.

Humper-Dumper is about to take a great fall, which all the King's horses and all the king's men couldn't put back together again.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
7. Even monarchs these days don't have the powers that Spanky thinks he does.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jun 2018

Even they can't ride roughshod over their nations's constitutions.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
12. It goes back at least to the Magna Carta of 1215.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jun 2018

King John vs the barons of the time. Even the elite of the elite then were sick of their monarch's shit, and they let him know, under no uncertain terms, that he did not have ultimate authority over the law of the land.

Trump desperately wants to be a tinpot dictator who controls everything, like so many other tinpot dictators who have existed over time, the ones who have always been thrown on the ash heap of history in ignominy.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
9. Down with the Stinking Draft-Dodging King (R)
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:16 PM
Jun 2018

We are Americans. We don't want no stinking republican king.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
15. I've been stunned by the universality of their complicity and their silence.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:45 PM
Jun 2018

In Watergate, at least some Republicans stepped up to the plate.
Now the only ones are speaking up at all are those who aren't running for reelection, and even then, as others have said on this thread, it's pretty much empty words.

I agree that history won't be kind to them, but in the meantime, I don't want them to take the country down with them.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
13. Waiting to hear Republican response
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jun 2018

And there are - crickets chirping.

Oh sure, a couple may say something critical, but then... Do. Absolutely. Nothing.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
16. Certainly the girth and the vulgarity fits.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jun 2018

Though I think that even Henry the VIII had more redeeming features than Cadet Bone Spurs.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
31. I'm afraid you're right.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 06:49 PM
Jun 2018

Maybe especially Idi Amin. He sure does seem to see Putin, Kim Jon Unglanceable, Erdogan as kindred spirits.

Aristus

(66,393 posts)
19. And, like George III, Henry VIII also had a 'splendid education.'
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:58 PM
Jun 2018

We think of him as this bellowing buffoon, but Henry VIII is still, to this day, the best-educated king Great Britain has ever had.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
17. Not just Democrats
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jun 2018

Are warning him. Chuck Grassley said,” If an Attorney told him he could pardon himself he would be looking for a new Lawyer!”

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
28. they should paraphrase everything with "this republican president wants to be king"
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jun 2018

driving home that he's a repuke.

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