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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:07 AM Jun 2018

Maine again backs ranked-choice voting

Source: Bangor Daily News

Maine voters again endorsed ranked-choice voting, passing a ballot question that keeps alive the first-in-the-nation election system.

The Bangor Daily News and Decision Desk HQ called the race just after midnight Wednesday. With a majority of key precincts reporting, the “yes” vote held a solid lead with 55 percent of the total vote.

Ranked-choice voting has been on a roller coaster ever since being enacted by referendum in November 2016. Opposition was fueled in May 2017 when an advisory opinion from the Maine Supreme Judicial Court said the system was partially unconstitutional because of language in the Maine Constitution that calls for general elections in Maine to be decided by pluralities.

Opposition began to mount in the Legislature, where the issue turned partisan, with Democrats generally supportive of the voting method and Republicans opposed. Neither side was able to achieve a supermajority for either starting the process of amending the constitution or scrapping the concept altogether, resulting in the October 2017 passage of a bill that called for either a constitutional amendment by December 2021 or for ranked-choice voting to cease for good.

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Read more: https://bangordailynews.com/2018/06/13/politics/early-returns-show-evenly-split-electorate-on-ranked-choice-voting/

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Maine again backs ranked-choice voting (Original Post) jpak Jun 2018 OP
Idiotic system of elections where a single politician gets to "certify" the results, or not. Fred Sanders Jun 2018 #1
I found the ranked-choice ballot easy to use mainer Jun 2018 #2
Yes, I read it doesn't matter if he certifies Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 2018 #6
Not a fan of all the voting gimmicks that have sprung up over the last few years... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #3
You should do some research. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #4
Same as doing run off elections Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 2018 #7
exactly Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #8
Go Maine! Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 2018 #5
We have it in Australia in all elections canetoad Jun 2018 #9

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Idiotic system of elections where a single politician gets to "certify" the results, or not.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jun 2018

What if, say, Putin lost an election and he could just not certify it...only the judicial branch stands n the way of this not correct way to do things...correct way is an independent election commission.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
2. I found the ranked-choice ballot easy to use
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:20 AM
Jun 2018

it was very clear, and I was happy to be able to put my first three choices for governor.

I think this is a positive development.

As for LePage refusing to certify the results -- I don't think he has that power.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
6. Yes, I read it doesn't matter if he certifies
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jun 2018

The election is still binding. Kind of like all those bills he refused to sign that became laws anyhow.

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
3. Not a fan of all the voting gimmicks that have sprung up over the last few years...
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:47 AM
Jun 2018

but, whatever ballot that lands in front of me, you can be sure that no Repub will be on the top of the one I return.

Voltaire2

(13,109 posts)
4. You should do some research.
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:58 AM
Jun 2018

Ranked choice is not a gimmick. It is used in other countries quite successfully. It eliminates the farce of “first past the poll” plurality elections where a candidate can get elected with less than 50% of the vote.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
5. Go Maine!
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jun 2018

Now we just need them to fix this so we can use it in the general election for governor, state senator, and state representative. For those who don't get why Mainers want this, we pretty always have independents that run, which results in splitting the votes 3 or more ways. LePage is a very unpopular governor, but he got elected twice with less than 50% of the vote each time. Plurality voting gives us unpopular and sometimes even extremist elected officials. Ranked choice gives us instant run off elections when no one has at least 50% of the vote.

canetoad

(17,175 posts)
9. We have it in Australia in all elections
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jun 2018

And call it Preferential Voting. Here's an explanation of how it works.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/explainer-what-is-preferential-voting

HOW IT WORKS

On a ballot paper, placing a number one against a candidate is considered the first preference or primary vote.

If no candidate secures an absolute majority of primary votes, the candidate with the fewest votes is then eliminated from the count.

The votes for this eliminated candidate are then redistributed among the remaining candidates according to the number two preference indicated on the original ballot.

This process of elimination based on preferences continues until a candidate secures an absolute majority.

Such a process enables a two-party system to ultimately emerge, whereby all votes are effectively divided between two major parties – in this case, the Labor and Liberal parties.

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