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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:19 PM Jun 2018

UPDATED: New DACA bill protects dreamers, builds wall, ends family separation

Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Axios



Stef W. Kight40 mins ago

The Republican compromise immigration bill in the House would prevent children from being separated from their parents at the border, provide legal status for DACA recipients and authorize funding for a border wall, according to the bill's summary.

Why it matters: This is a complex bill that touches on border security, DACA, family migration and employment-based green cards. It's uncertain whether the bill has the votes to pass the House, but Rep. Steve Scalise's office announced that Republicans will start whipping votes tomorrow ahead of next week's vote.

What to know:

DACA: The bill provides special legal status for DACA recipients who have been in the U.S. at least 10 years, were under 16 years of age when they arrived and are enrolled in school or have a high school diploma. The protection is renewable every 6 years — not a special path to citizenship.

Child immigrants: The bill would outlaw separating children from their parents when caught crossing the border illegally — a practice recently initiated by the Trump administration, but calls for those children to be kept in detention centers. The bill also limits the Special Immigrant Juvenile visa to children who can not be reunited with either of their parents because of abuse. Before, a child with even one abusive parents was eligible.



Read more: https://www.axios.com/between-the-lines-what-the-new-republican-immigration-bill-does-1529007045-c7234600-2d16-4e89-a0cb-b5b8bf2d901b.html



UPDATE:

Few voice support after House GOP releases 293-page DACA bill

BY MIKE LILLIS, RAFAEL BERNAL, SCOTT WONG AND JULIE GRACE BRUFKE - 06/14/18 05:47 PM EDT

House GOP leaders sent a 293-page immigration bill to their members on Thursday designed to bridge the substantial divide between the centrist reformers and conservative immigration hawks in their conference.

Early reactions suggest the bill is unlikely to do so, with members of both the far-right Freedom Caucus and conservative Republican Study Committee telling The Hill they planned to vote no on the compromise.

Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va.), a Freedom member and immigration hard-liner facing a competitive reelection battle, described the compromise effort as “hasty political maneuvers pasted together at the last minute.” “We gotta go back and talk to our constituents. When they hear about this deal, it'll be a no. They won't be happy,” Brat told The Hill.

Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a reform-minded Florida Republican who’s been at the center of the GOP negotiations, said he’ll seek changes.

“We're still reviewing it and there are some areas where we're looking to make some changes, so not ready to make a final decision yet,” Curbelo said.

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Igel

(35,320 posts)
14. It's more likely he's separating them because he wants to prosecute the parents.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:25 PM
Jun 2018

After a certain number of days in detention, by case law, the children must be separated.

The alternative is additional family detention centers, something not funded since at least 2014; or "catch and release". While most of those undocumented scheduled for hearings appear for their hearings (the percentage is in the high 80s or low 90s, I forget the number) this deceives as much as it informs: Many of those who appear need to appear multiple times, while each non-appearance is a separate person or family. It also presupposes that each person released has a set court date, as opposed to a date with some counselor, attorney, etc., prior to the actual setting of the court day.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
2. Republicans trying to put themselves in the best situation
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jun 2018

If Democrats go with it, they get the wall. If not, Trump and Republicans go into midterms yelling that they offered a compromise that included DACA and preventing separation of parents from child, and Democrats turned it down.

global1

(25,253 posts)
5. This Is The Real Reason For This Latest Bill Offering By The Repugs.....
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jun 2018

and that is to make the Dems look bad before November. I really don't know if they (the Repugs) want this to pass. The Dems should fool them and vote for this. I don't think that much of a Wall could be built before Nov. If the Blue Wave is real and we take back the House and maybe the Senate - the Dems could reverse this vote on the Wall.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
15. The President signs bills into law
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:46 PM
Jun 2018

So we wouldn't be able to just reverse the vote on this wall. he would just veto it.

We need to Reject this bill.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
17. Exactly
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:05 PM
Jun 2018

Vote for it and then strip the wall funding out when we have taken back Congress.

Call their bluff

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
3. What social programs will be cut for Trump's vanity wall?
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jun 2018

I want it in the legislation that no social programs will be cut to pay for the wall. It will be paid by increasing taxes on those that can afford it...or corporations/groups can sponsor sections of it. And gaps in the wall will not be preferentially given to conservative ranchers, oil and natural research extractors, golf course owners, Republican donors, etc.

Even then, the wall will do absolutely nothing but waste money, make some contractors richer, pollute the landscape, and do environmental damage. Insane. Extortion.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
7. NO WAY! NO WALL! Period, full stop. The wall has been the absolute stupidest idea to
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jun 2018

waste billions of tax dollars since the day Trump extracted it from his anal sphincter. The GOP 's linking it to DACA is just more proof of their craven inhumanity.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
8. No money for a wall
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jun 2018

The DACA protections have to be renewed and are subject to the vagaries of any racist a**hole that can get themselves elected to Congress. These people deserve citizenship...now.

The child detention issue is one entirely of their own making. As sad as it is, they need to to own this.

No matter...this isn't even going to make it out of the House.

This is just an attempt to shed responsibility before they go away for the holiday.

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
10. I've said that they were USING the cruel separation of families to COERCE Americans into paying
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jun 2018

for the WALL.

THAT, people, is why they adapted this "rip the kids from parents" tactic. PURE CRUELTY. And their evil plan was to tell Democrats and the American people this:

"Well if you want the cruel family separation to end -- YOU HAVE TO AGREE TO PAY FOR THE WALL"

The Republicans are LITERALLY using these kids as BARGAINING CHIPS to force the American taxpayers to pay for the goddamned US/Mexico wall.

Know who pointed that out to me? My 90-year old Mom. That woman is NO DUMMY. She knows this evil bastards backwards and forwards.

MOM was RIGHT.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
11. The wall is not the main issue
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:11 PM
Jun 2018

The issue is that these bills punish the dreamers. No citizenship? But it's ok to give more worker visas with a pathway to citizenship to people who have not contributed to our society yet and have not been vetted as much as dreamers who have had to undergo FBI/DHS background checks every two years.

This bill proposal is as bad as I thought it would be.



MichMan

(11,938 posts)
12. What compromises are Pelosi & Schumer willing to accept ?
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:17 PM
Jun 2018

Look, it's easy to say that nothing but citizenship for DACA recepients will be allowed, or no funding of any kind for a wall, but unless there is some type of compromise with Republican's, nothing will be passed.

What compromises are Pelosi & Schumer willing to accept to stop the deportations of the dreamers?

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
16. At a Sensenbrenner town hall last fall
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jun 2018

he said the the two parties will have to compromise to get enough votes to get anything passed. The Democrats want protection for the Dreamers, the Republicans want the wall.

Takket

(21,578 posts)
18. This is a hostage situation. Literally
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jun 2018

They are holding children hostage to try and get the wall. How about they just outlaw it because it is the right thing to do.

Or better yet I would 100% support a bill that authorizes the building of the wall AS SOON AS drumpf obtains the funding from Mexico. Hell, if he can get $1 from the Mexican government I will support it! Good luck dotard!!!

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