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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:32 AM Jun 2018

Hundreds of United Methodist Clergy file church charges against Jeff Sessions

Source: wwltv.com





Sessions is a member of Ashland Methodist Church in Mobile, Al.
Author: Suzanne Nuyen
Published: 8:58 AM CDT June 19, 2018


A group of more than 600 United Methodist clergy are bringing church law charges against U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions over a "zero tolerance" policy on U.S. immigration, which has resulted in the separation of families on the U.S.- Mexico border.

Sessions is a member of Ashland Methodist Church in Mobile, Al.

The group said in a June 18 statement that Sessions violated Paragraph 2702.3 of the denominations's Book of Discipline. Sessions is charged with child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination in separating children from their parents.

They also accused Sessions with "dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards and doctrine of the United Methodist Church," in reference to Sessions' quoting a bible verse to defend the "zero tolerance" policy.

The Rev. William Lawrence told the United Methodist News Service that anyone in the church can bring a charge against anyone else. While complaints against laypersons in the church are not uncommon, a formal complaint bringing charges is rare.



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John A. Hill
? @magicianary
13h13 hours ago

Replying to @dianabutlerbass

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Jeff Sessions doesn't care what the UMC thinks. He doesn't even care what the Bible actually says. Like his boss, he is only interested in the power the office provides.
13 replies 33 retweets 252 likes
Zane Tate
🌹
? @Zane_Tate
12h12 hours ago

No. This matters. Whether or not Sessions cares, it matters that our Methodist church is taking a stand. For immigrants. For children. For justice.
11 replies 37 retweets 929 likes
Jeanette Young
? @jhopchatt
2h2 hours ago

Exactly! Regardless of what Sessions thinks, it’s CRUCIAL that th Church speak up! So grateful for this!
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Kevin Aschenbrenner
? @kevwrites
13h13 hours ago

Replying to @dianabutlerbass

Well that is some good news. Do Methodists excommunicate? I think this qualifies.


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Hundreds of United Methodist Clergy file church charges against Jeff Sessions (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2018 OP
Good for the UMC. liberalmuse Jun 2018 #1
One of tweets said the website crashed. I have not tried it. riversedge Jun 2018 #6
A Methodist! Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #2
And the result? packman Jun 2018 #3
probably the result would be azureblue Jun 2018 #7
Yah, but I would feel better packman Jun 2018 #13
right on the money rurallib Jun 2018 #28
You are absolutely right! brer cat Jun 2018 #10
Well said..... Condemnation by his own church is a damned good start. groundloop Jun 2018 #17
Yes, it will get noticed. brer cat Jun 2018 #21
Maybe this will enable a few Alabama folks to wake up. Maybe. riversedge Jun 2018 #4
Deplorables will probably kick them out of the Iliyah Jun 2018 #5
I read this second tweet here this morning, and it brought me great joy!: Leghorn21 Jun 2018 #8
Wonder if he'll just switch to Southern Baptist? LeftInTX Jun 2018 #9
The Southern Baptist Convention is among the faith groups who have condemned his actions Hekate Jun 2018 #23
Thanks for the posting. TomSlick Jun 2018 #39
And Donald's church? - If he knows where it is. keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #11
SO TRUE!!!! bluestarone Jun 2018 #18
UMC is one denomination toward which I still hold some respect. hlthe2b Jun 2018 #12
Has Holy Roller Mike Pence said anything re Trump's border atrocities? n/t radhika Jun 2018 #14
Haven't seen hide nor hair of the guy...must have slithered back under his rock. RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2018 #22
The Catholic Bishops group is among those who have condemned ripping children from their mothers Hekate Jun 2018 #24
Summer is molting season for many reptiles that go in for that sort of thing. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #36
Good for them for calling him out on quoting Bible verses for the wrong reasons IronLionZion Jun 2018 #15
The only religion that sessions honors is the religion of racial hatred Gothmog Jun 2018 #16
Good people don't burn in Hell. safeinOhio Jun 2018 #19
"This matters." Yes it does. Rejoice, resisters. nt Hekate Jun 2018 #20
ALL CHURCHES CAN SPEAK OUT AND CONDEMN THIS HUMAN ABUSE OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #25
He has been an open racist for years and that didn't bother them. redstatebluegirl Jun 2018 #26
I would've thought he was a member of the awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #27
GOOD. Sugar Smack Jun 2018 #29
Good I hope they excommunicate him treestar Jun 2018 #30
Sessions doesn't care kimbutgar Jun 2018 #31
I was raised Methodist. Tho I'm not religious now, I couldn't be prouder of the church... Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #32
What a gift. lark Jun 2018 #33
This is good BUT zentrum Jun 2018 #34
theres church law? wtf is that? TalenaGor Jun 2018 #35
" Do Methodists excommunicate? " BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #37
K & R LAS14 Jun 2018 #38
Small Glimmer 2golddogs Jun 2018 #40
I sent it to one of my ministers. Ilsa Jun 2018 #41

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
1. Good for the UMC.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jun 2018

Who wants to bet they are now getting thousands of death threats from deplorables right now?

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. A Methodist!
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jun 2018

Man, isn't that a little too "hippie" a church for a christofascist theocrat like Sessions...

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
3. And the result?
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jun 2018

Condemnation/excommunication/stoning/rendering of the garments? Religious silliness - get out of your pews and vote for politicians that have some moral character. Sessions was and still is a bigot and how can his actions now be considered over-the-top. He is a poster child of all that is wrong in politics.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
7. probably the result would be
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jun 2018

Sessions and his family would be thrown out of the church and the Methodist faith. If his adult kids go to that church, they will be affected too, and the South is very big on "the sins of the father". They will be tarred with the same brush, and they will probably choose to leave the church. In the deep south, this is very serious - it will echo all across town, and cause the Sessions family to be "talked about", even in the schools. They will probably wind up going to a baptist church, and baptists are true fundies down there - that's where the klanners and racists go.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. Yah, but I would feel better
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jun 2018

seeing the church do something with a bucket of hot tar, feathers and a rail

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
28. right on the money
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:22 PM
Jun 2018

all this religious foofaraw won't amount to anything to Sessions. Doubt it will even put a tiny nick in his ego.

I think there is a sneaky secret among wealthy Republicans - they have never believed any of that religious stuff. They just wear it around work and town for show.

brer cat

(24,577 posts)
10. You are absolutely right!
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jun 2018

They should do nothing; after all, silence is the very best way to counter evil and cruelty. The evangelicals are in charge, so why should anyone else stand up and say "Not all Christians" or better yet, "That's not Christian?" Even more silliness: " All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Edmund Burke

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
17. Well said..... Condemnation by his own church is a damned good start.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jun 2018

All of us here on DU talking amongst ourselves about Sessions and Spankys evil policies will have very little effect, other than inciting a few of us to contact our Congress Critters demanding action. Sessions being condemned by his own Church WILL get noticed.

brer cat

(24,577 posts)
21. Yes, it will get noticed.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jun 2018

It's not called the Bible Belt for nothing. His family will be shamed, friends and relatives will be emboldened to speak up. This is not something UM take lightly...it is a slap upside the head and he will feel it.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Deplorables will probably kick them out of the
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jun 2018

Christian faith because their GAWD is the ultimate racist and hater, and we all know gawd only speaks to them. Just ask Pence.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
8. I read this second tweet here this morning, and it brought me great joy!:
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jun 2018

@Peaceful_411

Legacies are being ruined by these decisions by members of the Trump Admin and Congress. They CANNOT want to go down like this. But yet they still stay & either do overt acts of evil OR nothing at all.

It's time we start asking them what they are being blackmailed with.


@YDanasmithdutra

Agreed. But for Mobile to stand up to Jeff Sessions like this is a REALLY BIG DEAL. This is Sessions home turf. They LOVE that he was standing up to immigration. Remember, Alabama passed the toughest immigrants laws which backfired on our farmers, BADLY, than any other state.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
23. The Southern Baptist Convention is among the faith groups who have condemned his actions
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jun 2018

Nobody likes this child separation and imprisonment schtick.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
39. Thanks for the posting.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:53 PM
Jun 2018

The SBC resolution is surprisingly strong. Systematic child abuse is simply too much to ignore.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
22. Haven't seen hide nor hair of the guy...must have slithered back under his rock.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Tue Jun 19, 2018, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)

I'd like to know what catholic church is doing to censor "so called Catholics" ryan, conway, Ingram and melanie ...their only response should be to trump...STOP youf policy now! Re-unite families now!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
36. Summer is molting season for many reptiles that go in for that sort of thing.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jun 2018

Look for him to have a nice, sanctimonious glow emanating from his scaly but rejuvenated skin, when next you are unfortunate enough to see him.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
15. Good for them for calling him out on quoting Bible verses for the wrong reasons
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:18 PM
Jun 2018

far too many terrible people have tried to use the Bible to justify doing terrible things.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
16. The only religion that sessions honors is the religion of racial hatred
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jun 2018

Sessions will not care if real persons of G-d condemn him

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
26. He has been an open racist for years and that didn't bother them.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jun 2018

At least this has gotten their attention that he is not a Christian man.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
27. I would've thought he was a member of the
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jun 2018

Westboro baptist church??

If not, then that's probably his next stop.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
31. Sessions doesn't care
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:42 PM
Jun 2018

This is his lifelong dream to make America white again. He’s a lifelong racist and will not stop at Hispanics.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. I was raised Methodist. Tho I'm not religious now, I couldn't be prouder of the church...
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jun 2018

that I was raised in.



Maybe I ought to go to church this weekend for the first time in...well, I hate to think how long it's been.

lark

(23,105 posts)
33. What a gift.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jun 2018

The ads just write themselves. Russia is going to be greatly challenged to engineer another theft of our elections in the mid-terms with this going on.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
34. This is good BUT
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jun 2018

……if they were to have any clout with him at all, it further promotes the idea that government and religion can should merge.

It really shouldn't matter what the Bible, or a church have to say about any governmental employee —let alone someone in law enforcement and the judicial system.

The form is still dangerous as hell, even though the content for once, is actually ethical.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
37. " Do Methodists excommunicate? "
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jun 2018

Yes, but I believe it takes one verbal. and two written warnings first.

Churches work kinda like HR, don't they?

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