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Archae

(46,337 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:50 PM Jun 2018

ABC announces "Roseanne" spinoff "The Conners"

Source: WBAY, ABC affiliate in Green Bay, WI

THE CONNERS CONTINUE

ABC Picks Up ‘The Conners’ (Working Title) Straight to Series to Premiere This Fall
John Goodman (‘Dan’), Laurie Metcalf (‘Jackie’), Sara Gilbert (‘Darlene’), Lecy Goranson (‘Becky’) and Michael Fishman (‘D.J.’) Are Set to Star as Their Iconic Conner Characters

“The Conners” (working title), a spinoff of the groundbreaking family comedy “Roseanne,” has been greenlit to series with an order of 10 episodes for fall 2018. After a sudden turn of events, the Conners are forced to face the daily struggles of life in Lanford in a way they never have before. This iconic family – Dan, Jackie, Darlene, Becky and D.J. – grapples with parenthood, dating, an unexpected pregnancy, financial pressures, aging and in-laws in working-class America. Through it all, the fights, the coupon cutting, the hand-me-downs, the breakdowns – with love, humor and perseverance, the family prevails.

Read more: http://www.wbay.com/content/news/ABC-announces-Roseanne-spinoff-The-Conners-486215371.html



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ABC announces "Roseanne" spinoff "The Conners" (Original Post) Archae Jun 2018 OP
I wonder if the Branch Trumpvidians will watch with their second favorite racist out of the picture? 47of74 Jun 2018 #1
Hence my "Hmmmm..." Archae Jun 2018 #4
Freepers are saying they won't watch. Kaleva Jun 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author AdamGG Jun 2018 #2
they couldn't just let it die... Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #3
Thar's gold in them thar hills! ret5hd Jun 2018 #8
The other people in it are good. Why should they be penalized? n/t pnwmom Jun 2018 #12
There were a LOT of people MurrayDelph Jun 2018 #35
They couldn't write or do hair on a completely different show? jmowreader Jun 2018 #61
That would MurrayDelph Jun 2018 #62
It was really a very good show PatSeg Jun 2018 #42
I disagree. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #47
I watched all the shows of the season PatSeg Jun 2018 #50
You watched one small segment of one show and judged the whole Raine Jun 2018 #51
It was worse Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2018 #52
Exactly. You only need to see part of one show to see what it was. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #60
Yes, Trump was mentioned. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #59
The Original Show RobinA Jun 2018 #56
Yes PatSeg Jun 2018 #57
as the 1st episode opens a van pulls away taking roseanne (not shown) "away" nt msongs Jun 2018 #5
To leave the possibility (probability?) open that Roseanne will return to the show... Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #48
With as I.C.E. logo on it. whistler162 Jun 2018 #53
After a sudden turn of events ToxMarz Jun 2018 #6
Just create a completely different show about working class rural overweight whites IronLionZion Jun 2018 #7
Um, that's what they're doing? ABC has been working to buy her out of it completely. DRoseDARs Jun 2018 #14
Good! IronLionZion Jun 2018 #26
As others have mentioned, showed bared her name but wasn't just her. Whole cast and crew. DRoseDARs Jun 2018 #29
That must've taken some moolah. It's my understanding it was her concept... Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #58
Fuck "Roseann" Fuck "The Conners" LuvLoogie Jun 2018 #9
ABC can go f*ck themselves with a spool of barbed wire. RockRaven Jun 2018 #10
Totally Agree tonekat Jun 2018 #19
My bet is they are not going to kill Barrs character off at all as that is predictable rather they cstanleytech Jun 2018 #11
She is elected to Congress and never at home. Marcuse Jun 2018 #15
The final episode of last season is her agreeing to go for surgery, even though she is afraid she Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #21
Way to perfect especially if they are looking to potentially bring her back in a year or two once cstanleytech Jun 2018 #24
That episode was filmed LONG before they fired her. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #36
Yes, I know that but they had no plans to kill her then and while they certainly could try to use cstanleytech Jun 2018 #38
Have her fall into a coma rpannier Jun 2018 #43
Have her overdose on Ambien riverwalker Jun 2018 #41
I anxiously await. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #16
Dan wakes up from a dream to find Roseanne got hit by a meteorite. PubliusEnigma Jun 2018 #17
Does it open with the funeral or the hospital scene or the wake? Decisions, decisions.... Hekate Jun 2018 #18
I vote, "Where's mom?" "She died." "Oh. So... when's the pizza getting here?" DRoseDARs Jun 2018 #31
She went to jail rpannier Jun 2018 #44
I don't think it would work... She was the key. keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #20
With Roseanne not in the picture, christx30 Jun 2018 #22
Love him. dewsgirl Jun 2018 #27
Goodman, Metcalf and Gilbert have the talent to carry the show. Kaleva Jun 2018 #23
Roseanne is gone due to an .... SCVDem Jun 2018 #25
Are they going to kill off Roseanne? Vinnie From Indy Jun 2018 #28
That's a good one! mountain grammy Jun 2018 #32
Where are we going to get the whiny sarcastic matriarch voice? underpants Jun 2018 #30
I never was a big watcher of the show...I think back in the Upthevibe Jun 2018 #33
2 and a Half Men lived on without Charlie Sheen TexasBushwhacker Jun 2018 #34
That show wasn't written, created, and named after him though oberliner Jun 2018 #54
The Andy Griffith Show did well without Andy Griffith Kaleva Jun 2018 #55
Let the show die... Just let it die. djacq Jun 2018 #37
I mean . . . why? TimeToGo Jun 2018 #39
I've got a better name for the show flotsam Jun 2018 #40
I'm sure Roseanne Barr will make appearances and probably eventually get a part time gig. C Moon Jun 2018 #45
Do you remember the 80s & 90s tv show Valerie? IrishEyes Jun 2018 #46
Will Roseanne die of a pain pill overdose? JohnnyRingo Jun 2018 #49
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
1. I wonder if the Branch Trumpvidians will watch with their second favorite racist out of the picture?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:51 PM
Jun 2018

Archae

(46,337 posts)
4. Hence my "Hmmmm..."
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:54 PM
Jun 2018

Might even be a better show!

(Hell, it sure will be a better show without that whiny nasal voice of Roseanne's.)

Response to Archae (Original post)

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
35. There were a LOT of people
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:43 PM
Jun 2018

Crew, carpenters, writers, caterers, drivers, technical support

all good union people who had been promised work for next year and had made plans accordingly, who had NOTHING to do with the evil bile Roseanne had spewed.

Why should they have been punished?

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
61. They couldn't write or do hair on a completely different show?
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jun 2018

It might have been better to integrate the on-screen talent into other shows’ companies and to use the off-screen people as the crew on a completely different show.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
62. That would
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jun 2018

require basically starting over, which means the people who had been promised jobs would have to re-apply.

And, as my wife pointed out as I read this to her, THOSE shows already have staff. Staffing season has already passed.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
42. It was really a very good show
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:55 PM
Jun 2018

They handled a lot of controversial issues with great sensitivity. I am no fan of Roseanne the person, but the original show was cutting edge and the reboot was very promising. The ensemble cast is top notch and they deserve a second chance. I hope they find a way to keep this talented cast together.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. I disagree.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 02:20 AM
Jun 2018

I watched part of one show, then changed the channel. It was Trump propaganda.

Jackie shows up for dinner as the crazy wacko sister wearing a pink p*sy hat, talking loudly and goofy about politics, while Roseanne is seated and speaking with a calm voice, to appear as the sane one. Jackie makes wild gestures while standing, wild face expressions, while Roseanne is feeding a child with her hands, no goofy expression.

It was very clear. Message received. Trumpers are the sensible ones in a world gone mad, while liberals are running around like loony tunes spouting off at the mouth about things they know nothing about...and wearing stupid pink knit hats.

The show was intended to be, and was, propaganda.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
50. I watched all the shows of the season
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:10 AM
Jun 2018

and the small part you saw did not come close to representing the entire show, which overall had a much more liberal tone. One of the best episodes was about their Muslim neighbors who were living in fear and persecution. It was covered in a way I haven't seen on television before. If Trump's wacko base was watching it, they would have gotten a powerful lesson about tolerance and inclusion.

They also covered the high cost of medical care and it was pointed out to Roseanne's character that it had only gotten worse under the Trump administration. For the most part however the show barely talked about politics. It did cover the very real problems that working people face every day.

I can assure you that if you had watched more of the program, you would have seen that it hardly portrayed Trumpers as sensible or liberals as loony tunes. Unfortunately the main character was played by a woman who has no self control and has a long history of mental illness. That should have been taken into consideration when ABC and the producers decided to make a reboot.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
51. You watched one small segment of one show and judged the whole
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:26 AM
Jun 2018

season that which in no way was representive of the season. I don't believe Trump was even mentioned in any of the following shows.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
52. It was worse
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 03:36 AM
Jun 2018

Roseanne promoted an episode on Twitter, boasting "Watch how I show my liberal granddaughter!"

The episode has the kid calling Roseanne "a hillbilly," (grr...those lib'ruls elites look down on the real 'murca), so Roseanne, the sensible parent, calls her "a bitch" and assaults her over the sink.

"She sure showed her! That snooty snowflake!"

Then, the kid is the one who had to grovel and make up with racist Pizzagating grandma.

The show was garbage.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
60. Exactly. You only need to see part of one show to see what it was.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:08 AM
Jun 2018

No "real" show would be about that. Notice how people make a big deal out of not mentioning Trump's name?

For one, I thought I heard the name mentioned, which is why they released notice later that they would no longer be mentioning his name. But more than that, the NAME isn't what's important. It's the PERSON and the FOLLOWERS.

The show was propaganda for Trump & Trumpers. That's precisely WHY Trump loved it & gave it a boost on Twitter & said he LOVED Roseanne!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
59. Yes, Trump was mentioned.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jun 2018

Not by name...but "he" was mentioned. Jackie wore the pink hat, "how could you vote for him?" etc.

Yes, it was propaganda. If you want to know what propaganda looks like, that's what it looks like.

It also looks like the govt released films of the "confiscated" kids.

That's why propaganda is so effective. It passes for real.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
56. The Original Show
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:45 AM
Jun 2018

was great. Aside from the economic situation it tackled a lot of aging Boomer issues hilariously and well. Your daughter on birth control, pot use now that you have responsibilities, the cool friend comes to town and mocks you because you aren’t cool anymore:

Roseanne: We used to be Dan and Roseanne, now we’re the Connors.

Dan: Well, I like being the Connors.”

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
57. Yes
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jun 2018

The show was very real and the Connors resembled a lot of working class people I knew, though the Connors were a lot funnier. Although the show was called "Roseanne", I always found her to be the weakest actor in the cast. It often felt like she was still doing a standup comedy routine, whereas the rest of the cast, especially Dan Goodman and Laurie Metcalf were consummate actors. They often carried the show. Even the child actors routinely delivered their lines more believably than Roseanne Barr.

The writing on the show was exceptional as well.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
48. To leave the possibility (probability?) open that Roseanne will return to the show...
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 02:22 AM
Jun 2018

when the anger dies down. Not HER anger, or the anger of reasonable Republicans. But THEIR anger. Those wacko "sensitive" snowflakes known as "them libruls."

Maybe not. But I think so.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
53. With as I.C.E. logo on it.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 05:53 AM
Jun 2018

Tuens out Rosanne's parents immigrated to Brazil from Europe and she was born in Sao Paulo. They then migrated without documentation to the US where Jackie was born. Since Rosanne is a illegal mugrant she is sent back to Brazil with no knowledge of Porteguese.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
6. After a sudden turn of events
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:57 PM
Jun 2018

Rosanne is carted off to a mental institution?

The rest of the Conner's get a restraining order?

Shoots herself cleaning her gun?

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
7. Just create a completely different show about working class rural overweight whites
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:57 PM
Jun 2018

and leave out Roseanne Barr. She ruins it for everyone. There's no need for her to be involved.



 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
14. Um, that's what they're doing? ABC has been working to buy her out of it completely.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:12 PM
Jun 2018

"Roseanne Barr will have no financial or creative involvement in the new series."

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
29. As others have mentioned, showed bared her name but wasn't just her. Whole cast and crew.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jun 2018

ABC made the right call on both counts. Cancel the show, spin off existing cast and crew minus Barr to new series.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
58. That must've taken some moolah. It's my understanding it was her concept...
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jun 2018

the original show. So she owns it creatively...but I may not have that right. Maybe that was just Roseanne spouting off years ago.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
10. ABC can go f*ck themselves with a spool of barbed wire.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jun 2018

An awkward reboot of an unnecessary revival of a once-popular-but-never-particularly-interesting sitcom. What a waste of human potential. And whether it succeeds or fails, the ratings will be turned into political propaganda one way or another. Joy.

tonekat

(1,816 posts)
19. Totally Agree
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:14 PM
Jun 2018

I could never watch it then or now.

Maybe "The Connors" can say the Roseanne character is trump's new press secretary.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
11. My bet is they are not going to kill Barrs character off at all as that is predictable rather they
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:59 PM
Jun 2018

will probably do some stupid storyline of her either becoming a best selling author and having to travel around the globe or they will have her just suddenly leave the family high and dry and divorce Dan.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
21. The final episode of last season is her agreeing to go for surgery, even though she is afraid she
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jun 2018

won't make it through. It's the perfect setup...

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
24. Way to perfect especially if they are looking to potentially bring her back in a year or two once
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:17 PM
Jun 2018

the heat has died down for what she said.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
38. Yes, I know that but they had no plans to kill her then and while they certainly could try to use
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jun 2018

that to kick off the new show I doubt they will both because its to cliche and because they probably want to keep the option of bringing her back if the show should start to falter.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
43. Have her fall into a coma
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:12 AM
Jun 2018

Then they can wait for the moment for her to recover
The only problem I see with her coming back, is what actors/actresses that won't work with her ever again?

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
16. I anxiously await.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jun 2018

The Roseanne reboot was Sarah Gilbert's baby to begin with. I thought it was done well. I can't wait to see what she does with The Conners.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
18. Does it open with the funeral or the hospital scene or the wake? Decisions, decisions....
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jun 2018

I'll give it a try.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
31. I vote, "Where's mom?" "She died." "Oh. So... when's the pizza getting here?"
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:30 PM
Jun 2018

And they never speak of her again. Make it the opposite of schmultzy.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
44. She went to jail
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:13 AM
Jun 2018

She went to a pizza place in DC demanding to see the children locked away in the basement
She was shot (and killed by police) (or she shot herself trying to look tough with the gun)

christx30

(6,241 posts)
22. With Roseanne not in the picture,
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jun 2018

this will, hopefully, give Dan more to do. John Goodman is one of my favorite actors. I might actually watch the show now.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
23. Goodman, Metcalf and Gilbert have the talent to carry the show.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jun 2018

Goranson and Fishman are fine in a supporting role.

There are shows in the past where the supporting cast was so good that the show may have survived without the main character.

The Andy Griffith Show which later did transition into the successful Mayberry RFD series. The Mary Tyler Moore Show and MASH could have done well without Mary Tyler Moore and Alan Alda respectively.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
25. Roseanne is gone due to an ....
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:17 PM
Jun 2018

opiod addiction.

Real and believeable.



"dot, dot, dot, dot" Colbert

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
28. Are they going to kill off Roseanne?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jun 2018

I would have have her character's story end by telling the story of her going full on Trump and getting run over by the presidential motorcade as he arrives in whatever shit hole place the story is set in.

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
33. I never was a big watcher of the show...I think back in the
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:35 PM
Jun 2018

day when it was first aired, I'd catch it if it happened to be on and it made me chuckle a little (but it was never "must see T.V." to me like Seinfeld and Friends were). Having said that, I've always enjoyed John Goodman, Sara Gilbert and Laurie Metcalf. I'm glad that they're moving forward with this for a couple of reasons. For one, a lot of people completely lost their jobs through absolute no fault of their own (and I definitely include folks in the crew such as hair, makeup, etc). I live in California, and I have friends whose jobs are industry related. It's such a roller coaster ride so when you're on a hit show, believe me, it's a big deal. Also, I think the core group (minus Roseanne) are well-liked and talented. I will for sure watch The Conners when they premier in September....

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
55. The Andy Griffith Show did well without Andy Griffith
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jun 2018

Mayberry R.F.D. was ranked 4th in the Nielsen ratings in the first two years of its run and was only cancelled as part of CBS's "rural purge".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayberry_R.F.D.

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
39. I mean . . . why?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:08 PM
Jun 2018

It's not as if it is a funny show -- it never was. Any show will be better without her, but still I don't get it.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
45. I'm sure Roseanne Barr will make appearances and probably eventually get a part time gig.
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jun 2018

This is typical of corporations:
When the iron is hot, they strike.
When it cools down, they go back to the way it was—it's all about money.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
46. Do you remember the 80s & 90s tv show Valerie?
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 01:55 AM
Jun 2018

Valerie Harper left the show after two seasons so they renamed the show "Valerie's Family" and then "The Hogans". They brought on Sandy Duncan to play the recently divorced aunt who comes to live with the family after the death of Valerie Harper's character. The show lasted another four seasons after Valerie Harper left.

If Roseanne's character is completely killed off then maybe I will try watching the show. I don't want there to be any chance that she will come back to the show at all. I felt bad for the other actors, writers and crew losing their jobs because of this nutcase. The other actors can carry the show.

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