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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:26 PM Jun 2018

McConnell Promises Fall Vote to Confirm Next Supreme Court Justice

Source: The New York Times



By Carl Hulse
June 27, 2018

WASHINGTON — Senator Mitch McConnell quickly promised on Wednesday a Senate vote on a new Supreme Court nominee by the fall, and Democrats will have little power to prevent confirmation of President Trump’s choice on their own.

“The Senate stands ready to fulfill its constitutional role by offering advice and consent on President Trump’s nominee to fill this vacancy,” Mr. McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, said after Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement. “We will vote to confirm Justice Kennedy’s successor this fall.”

The decision to move rapidly throws a volatile new issue into the already charged midterm campaigns and will provide new challenges for both Republican and Democratic candidates.

It also means that Mr. McConnell, who led the blockade against President Barack Obama’s choice in 2016, in the last year of his presidency, will have the opportunity to usher two Republican-nominated justices on to the Supreme Court in the first two years of Mr. Trump’s presidency.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/mcconnell-supreme-court-vote.html

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McConnell Promises Fall Vote to Confirm Next Supreme Court Justice (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
McConnell should be charged with grand larceny bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #1
We just have to admit it the ship has sailed and we are left at the shore. olegramps Jun 2018 #7
No. We don't have to surrender bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #15
This is going to be a battle... FarPoint Jun 2018 #25
Oh please. Blues Heron Jun 2018 #28
Any objection to any law can be challenged and eventually referred to the Supreme Court. olegramps Jun 2018 #30
As soon DownriverDem Jun 2018 #2
Oh NOW it's a "Constitutional role" underpants Jun 2018 #3
Some one or a group of people should go to the hearings turbinetree Jun 2018 #4
If it were against the law, the Democratic leadership or another org. would have sued. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #11
Why isn't he BillyBobBrilliant Jun 2018 #5
When Harry Reid eliminated the filibuster for federal judicial nominations below the level of totodeinhere Jun 2018 #6
5-4. OilemFirchen Jun 2018 #12
Thanks for the correction. Yes it will still be 5-4. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2018 #13
The ultra-right is hoping that it will soon be 6-3 if there is a death or retirement. olegramps Jun 2018 #31
no one should be surprised by this still_one Jun 2018 #8
Return all the children you stole first. Wwcd Jun 2018 #9
It'll go like this: Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #10
The exact same thing will happen on our side SkatmanRoth Jun 2018 #16
Uh-huh. Like November 2016. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #20
I am being positive in my thinking SkatmanRoth Jun 2018 #24
Doesn't hurt to try. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #29
This is exactly the strategy. joshcryer Jun 2018 #18
Turtleman can go to Hell... rickyhall Jun 2018 #14
FUCK McCONNELL,FUCK TRUMP,FUCK PUTIN olddad56 Jun 2018 #17
I never understood why Obama did not do a recess appointment when he could have. joanbarnes Jun 2018 #19
Because You Can't Recess Appointment a Supreme Court Justice... TomCADem Jun 2018 #21
Half right. A supreme court justice can be appointed via a recess appointment onenote Jun 2018 #23
Then we're here to inform you that Cha Jun 2018 #33
Sadly, this story will turn out to be correct DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #22
They want to use it MFM008 Jun 2018 #26
I can't accept duforsure Jun 2018 #27
I don't see that happening. totodeinhere Jul 2018 #34
turtlehead says a lot of things. God says this.. Cha Jun 2018 #32

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
7. We just have to admit it the ship has sailed and we are left at the shore.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:57 PM
Jun 2018

Short of a revolt there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. We had people within that helped to destroy Hilary Clinton and now the fascists are in full control. This is just the beginning. Maybe this is how our democracy will end it's rather short life span. Not with a bang but a pathetic whimper. Not with the clash of armies, but an agonizingly death rattle of an impotent victim of its own ineptitude. Maybe the epitaph will read they didn't care enough to even know they were drowning in a sea of apathy as they danced and rejoiced oblivious of their own demise.

bucolic_frolic

(43,258 posts)
15. No. We don't have to surrender
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jun 2018

We are not required to cooperate with our own demise.

Though I must admit, the Irish fleeing Ireland has a lot in common with the Quebec Diaspora and with European immigration 1840-1920. Elite business and political interests squeezed the citizenry who fled for better opportunity. So oppression has happened throughout history. The question is what to do about it. I think there are fewer options today.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
30. Any objection to any law can be challenged and eventually referred to the Supreme Court.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jun 2018

The decision will be totally preordained. End of story. That is how the game is played. The will of the people is totally subservient to the will of the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court. Matters not if it originated in state courts of the federal system if it has universal application such as the laws in respect to abortion which will be subject to new challenges and will be reversed. This will apply to the entirety of all laws that will be decided not in accordance with their constitutionality but solely on political terms. This will be he state of affairs for the foreseeable future and may in fact be solidified further if there is another retirement or death of a progressive judge during this tragic presidency. This why the legal community is extremely concerned and rightfully so. Clinton attempted to warn people what was in store and she was ignored by far to many who bought the demagoguery that Trump fed them.

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
2. As soon
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:34 PM
Jun 2018

as the new judge is seated, it's bye bye to Roe v Wade. I hope those who thought Hillary wasn't pure enough are happy. Like I said during the election, if the repubs win, the Supreme Court will be extreme right for decades.

turbinetree

(24,713 posts)
4. Some one or a group of people should go to the hearings
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:38 PM
Jun 2018

and ask where was the senate when it comes to Article 2 Section paragraph 2 since it was violated the last time we checked..........................fuck this shit, this enabling asshole should be in jail for breaking the rule of law along with Grassley................................

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
6. When Harry Reid eliminated the filibuster for federal judicial nominations below the level of
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:51 PM
Jun 2018

the Supreme Court I said at the time that it was a mistake. Then it was a mere formality for the Repugs to extend it to the Supreme Court. So now we are looking at a 6-3 conservative majority. It's a dark day for our country.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
9. Return all the children you stole first.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:18 PM
Jun 2018

Account for every one of them.
Hand them back to their parents first.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. It'll go like this:
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jun 2018

Trump will pick his dream nominee. All the Repubs will jump on board. When the Dems fail to confirm immediately, this will rev up their base as they head into the November mid-terms. "Obstructionists!" they'll yell. The Repubs will be ticked and head for the voting booths, whereas before they might have been complacent.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
16. The exact same thing will happen on our side
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:07 PM
Jun 2018

Every Liberal, Progressive, and Democrat will be voting to retake the house and impeach the illegitimate turd that now occupies the White House. We can still fix Trump's wagon even if we are down by one on the Supreme Court.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Uh-huh. Like November 2016.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jun 2018

When all lefties rushed to the polls to create a landslide for the Democratic Party candidate.

BTW...impeach on what grounds? What grounds do you think the Republicans will think are legitimate right now? They are the ones in control. They will NEVER push Trump out of office until that nominee for the USCT is confirmed. He could shoot someone (as he likes to say), and they will still support him.

I'm sure we'll gain seats in November. But once that nominee gets seated in the S.Ct., that changes the country in ways that we can only guess. Four of the justices will be alt-right extremists, a fifth will be a traditional conservative. That's it. That's every decision from here to eternity. Every decision will be what is best for their Party.

Everything a Democratic President does, will be sued & appealed...and the 5 Republicans will decide every case. It won't matter what the others think or decide.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
24. I am being positive in my thinking
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 05:46 AM
Jun 2018

I believe we are going to win this.

I do not subscribe to the self-fulfilling prophecy of the Democrats losing to Trump (like you seem to be doing).

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. Doesn't hurt to try.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 09:35 AM
Jun 2018

But you might want to review the Senate's rules to see why the Democrats have no power to delay it.

This also isn't like 2016, in that a presidential election isn't coming up in the same year, like in 2016.

The ONLY thing that the Dems have a chance of doing is persuading one or two Republicans NOT to confirm. That is actually possible. Not likely, but possible.

True, I'm depressed at this turn of events. But it's also true that this is in reality very bad news and a turn of events that will turn the country to the far right for the rest of my lifetime. The far right justices decide based on their ideology, as we've seen.

I am also convinced this was planned between Republicans and Kennedy, and the GOP knew this was coming. Kennedy has connections with the Trump family. Kennedy knows exactly what he's doing...and is leaving so that he doesn't have to recuse himself, if a case hits the S.Ct. that involves Trump personally (as in the case of charges against Trump or an attempt to impeach). REmember how Trump said repeatedly, "If Sessions had told me he was going to recuse himself, I would have appointed someone else!" He kept saying that repeatedly. It made no sense...Sessions couldn't have known ahead of time that he would have to recuse himself.

Kennedy times this so as not to interfere with the mid-terms.

This also impacts the Mueller investigation, our intel agencies doing their job, and all the rest.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
18. This is exactly the strategy.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jun 2018

They need to yet again make everything the fault of Democrats as that will drive their base out.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
21. Because You Can't Recess Appointment a Supreme Court Justice...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 09:33 PM
Jun 2018

...particularly if the Senate does not take a recess.

onenote

(42,748 posts)
23. Half right. A supreme court justice can be appointed via a recess appointment
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:16 AM
Jun 2018

And, in fact, it has happened. For example, William Brennan was named to the Supreme Court by Eisenhower via the recess appointment route.

But there has to be a recess. And whether a recess is called is in the hands of the party that has a majority in the Senate, which was the Republicans.

Finally, a recess appointment only lasts until the end of the year after the year in which it is made. So if Obama had made a recess appointment in 2016, the seat would have become vacant again at the end of 2017. Or earlier, since a recess appointee can be replaced by having another person nominated and confirmed during the recess appointee's term. In other words, if Obama had been able to place Garland on the Court via a recess appointment in 2016, Trump could have nominated Gorsuch the day after Inauguration Day and as soon as the Republican senate confirmed him, Garland would be out and Gorsuch would have been in.

Cha

(297,569 posts)
33. Then we're here to inform you that
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jun 2018

the Senate Never took a Recess. So President Obama couldn't make a recess appointment.

Obama didn't have a decent senate to work with.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
22. Sadly, this story will turn out to be correct
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 09:52 PM
Jun 2018
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-risky-longshot-blocking-trumps-next-supreme-court-pick-214353853.html

In the end, Dems will be too timid to gum up the works by playing hardball. They won't be able to hold their caucus plus the Independents because Heitkamp, Donnelly and Manchin who are all up for re-election won't go along. Even if they do, no GOP senator will break with Trump to deny the GOP another rightwinger on the supreme court, not even those who call themselves pro-choice.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. I can't accept
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:01 AM
Jun 2018

There are not some in trump's party in the old gop that believe locking up babies in cages, supporting religious discrimination, accept neo nazi and white supremacy , and normalize sexually attacking women, and lying, corruption , and aligning with terrorist dictators around the world , or becoming pro russian and putin now is good or their beliefs. I think there are some real Americans left in their diminished gop party that will stand up against these types of people, and stand up for America over their forced loyalty to trump. Its just a matter of time before trump is attacking their party , and doing more to destroy them too. They should realize that , while they can, then do something to stop him now. Join the Democrat party forcing leadership over to them , and against trump.

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