143-mph 'fire tornado' that left a path of destruction in Redding is an ominous sign
Source: The Los Angeles Times
By RONG-GONG LIN II , JOSEPH SERNA and LOUIS SAHAGUN AUG 03, 2018 | 4:00 AM| REDDING
As authorities sifted the rubble from the fire that burned more than 1,000 residences in Shasta County, they were startled by what they encountered.
A soaring transmission tower was tipped over. Tiles were torn off the roofs of homes. Massive trees were uprooted. Vehicles were moved. In one spot, a fence post was bent around a tree, with the bark on one side sheared off.
This was not typical wildfire damage. Rather, it was strong evidence of a giant, powerful spinning vortex that accompanied the Carr fire on July 26. The tornado-like condition, lasting an hour and a half and fueled by extreme heat and intensely dry brush as California heats up to record levels, was captured in dramatic videos that have come to symbolize the destructive power of what is now Californias sixth-most destructive fire.
It may take years before scientists come to a consensus on what to exactly call this vortex a fire whirl, as named by the National Weather Service, or a fire tornado. Whatever its called, its exceptionally rare to see a well-documented fire-fueled vortex leap out of a wildfire and enter a populated area with such size, power and duration.
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ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Cell service is down in many spots. Last I heard was a week ago. I have other family in the area as well.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)And I hope all the news is good.
sdfernando
(4,935 posts)Hope all is well with your brother and family.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)that shows the fire producing a waterspout...actually a firespout, on a river, I think it is the Sacramento river,you can see the fire ON the river, ash falling from it as it moves along.
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)And at the end of the day the scientists will probably determine it didn't rise to the magnitude to be called a firetornado. I'm guessing that waterspout was short lived as it was fueled by the fire and it ran out of fuel when it hit the river. Nevertheless they coexisted for that short magical moment.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I can imagine what was going thru the minds of people in that boat that buzzed past.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I can imagine what was going thru the minds of people in that boat that buzzed past.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)includes using the rising seas to our advantage to bring water into the interior states. water that evaporates is FRESH WATER & rains down as fresh water.
currently vast expanses of our public lands have few grazing wildlife and are over grazed cattle/sheep scorched earth.
only a couple hundred years ago vast herds of wildlife roamed North America and the lands were renewed constantly by the vast herds (spreading seeds & manure) and pristine with grasses & trees. and water.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)I had no idea the impact of grazing until I read that chapter.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)including wild horses (horses evolved in North America & are excellent grazing species at renewing lands) removing grazing wildlife hurts the land.
Native horses died out maybe 10k years ago, so what we think of as "untainted" resulted from a long-term adjustment to their absence. "Nature" got along fine without them.
These horses are cute but not native, and have different habits and a different effect on the environment. These are an intrusive species and, apart from cuteness and contrarianism, should go away and let the native species do their work.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)300 years ago when millions of wild horses spread grass seed along with natural fertilizer far & wide.
over 54 million years of evolution started in North America, the horse is responsible for Americas great American grasslands. They can heal the lands they live on.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Because of bizarre 100 year flooding that nearly took out the damn one year back. As beautiful and awesome as nature is, it is also getting freakish.
sdfernando
(4,935 posts)Al Gore desperately tried to get something done. Rethugs are scum! didn't lift a finger and now want to make things worse.
I believe we have already past the tipping point. You think the government is going to be honest about that? Hell no they won't for fear of the consequences. It is going to get really ugly in the next 20 to 50 years.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)and Texas does nothing to collect, divert, plan for or use the next "extreme rain". State government just lets it flood everyone.
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)..... purposes and exert his domain over it's natural species and resources for his benefits alone.
Be fruitful and multiply, rape and pillage because God said it was okie dokie in the good book.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)shitty lands & crappy schools are for peons, your Realtors & insurance agents are happy to help.
Igel
(35,320 posts)Aral Sea.
Beijing air.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Saharan Dust From Africa
The Weather Channel
New Hampshire Man
(36 posts)Sharks...were there any sharks?
dubyadiprecession
(5,716 posts)So the women and children were safe.
elmac
(4,642 posts)the fire storm wiped out a town, killing between 1500-2500. It happened on the exact same day as the great Chicago fire and a huge fire that devastated Northern MI.
Coventina
(27,121 posts)The sooner the earth is trashed the better, according to them.
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Sunlei
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(18,264 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)I don't even have words for how terrifying those descriptions are.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)People seem to forget Nature Bats Last every single time.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Anyone near any danger please get to safety.
Pepsidog
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(7,800 posts)DeminPennswoods
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about the 1910 fire that spanned Washington, Montana and Idaho with very similar characteristics. The 1910 fire was so violent, it burned an area the size of Connecticut in 1 weekend.
NutmegYankee
(16,200 posts)The single greatest loss of life was caused by a fire tornado that engulfed the Rikugun Honjo Hifukusho (formerly the Army Clothing Depot) in downtown Tokyo, where about 38,000 people were incinerated after taking shelter there following the earthquake.
Basically people had gone to this location to escape the flames, but the violent wind drafts whipped up a fire tornado and it swirled over the crowd killing almost everyone. If you decide to search for photos, be warned. It's bodies as far as the eye can see.