A flat tire started the deadly Carr Fire and days of devastation in California
Source: CNN
By Faith Karimi and Cheri Mossburg, CNN
Updated 7:50 AM ET, Sat August 4, 2018
(CNN)It happens countless times on roads across the United States: a vehicle gets a flat tire as it's driving along. But on this road near Redding, California, when a tire failed last month on a trailer and its rim scraped the asphalt, the result proved to be catastrophic for an entire region.
The sparks that shot out July 23 from that minor incident, California fire officials said, ignited what is now the sixth-most destructive wildfire in state history.
The Carr Fire blazed a fiery path along Highway 299, lighting up mile after mile of dry brush as it crept up on residential areas.
The blazed turned everything it touched into ash, mangled metal and black embers, and is still burning nearly two weeks later. It's killed six people, scorched nearly 134,000 acres -- an area larger than Denver -- and created its own weather system.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/04/us/carr-fire-week-wrap/index.html
underpants
(182,861 posts)A couple of kids actually flicking matches down by the railroad tracks.
NNadir
(33,538 posts)...dead in its tracks:
Unterschätzte Gefahr: Jeden Monat geraten zehn Windturbinen in Brand
Or maybe it, um, didn't stop climate change in its tracks, isn't stopping climate change in its tracks and won't stop climate change dead in its tracks.
groundloop
(11,521 posts)It's easy to nitpick one incident, such as this, and make a broad claim. Sorry, but your post sounds like something I'd expect to hear from one of the right wingers I'm forced to work with. The truth is that renewable energy, such as wind, is reducing greenhouse gasses (and therefore climate change).
hunter
(38,322 posts)...short-lived garbage littering the landscape, scarring the hillsides with not just turbines, but access roads too.
These machines are entirely dependent on dirty sources of energy, particularly fracked natural gas in the U.S.A., to maintain the illusion of sustainability.
Unlike NNadir, I'm not hostile toward rooftop or parking lot solar. Our local schools are installing solar panels over parking lots and portions of asphalt playgrounds and I don't think that's a bad thing. Teachers can park their cars in the shade, and children can eat their lunches and play outside in the shade.
But solar projects on undeveloped land, especially fragile desert environments, can go straight to hell.
NNadir
(33,538 posts)One can simply use google images to disabuse one of this notion.
The unsupportable belief that so called "renewable energy" is clean, sustainable or affordable is a great crime against future generations.
We just spent, in the last ten years alone on this fantasy, more than two trillion dollars, with the result that climate change is getting worse faster than ever; we have now, in this century, begun to see annual increases averaging 2.2. ppm.
UNEP Frankfurt School Report, issued each year: GLOBAL TRENDS IN RENEWABLE ENERGY INVESTMENT 2017
Two trillion dollars, on wind and solar alone and what do we have to show for it?
An atmosphere that hit 411 ppm, that's what.
The reason this is happening is because we continue to lie to ourselves. So called "renewable energy," didn't work; it isn't working, and it won't work.
The reason is physics.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Tikki
(14,559 posts)Tikki
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Sunlei
(22,651 posts)re-introduce native wildlife grazers especially on burn sites or the re-growth of tinder will again occur. Be another fire within a year or two.
vehicles driving off road also can start fires, off road should be banned from all public lands & state/national parks. especially if the land doesn't have a balanced ecology with enough wildlife grazers.
ROB-ROX
(767 posts)I live in California and it is DRY and HOT. There are people who do not think when they are doing something. People following the trailer should have made the driver aware. The driver should have been aware that the trailer was not responding (one tire flat the trailer would begin to travel differently) correctly. Personally I think the trailer driver should get the BILL and we the public should be informed WHO started the fire!!! Our money pays to prevent and STOP fires. I am glad California has extra money for a RAINY day. I live in a rural area and we cut grass 100 feet from our homes and animals eat the wild grass. I am not worried about a fire occurring nearby..........
Snellius
(6,881 posts)Northern California has an almost god-given natural irrigation system. With the humid ocean air, west to east, freezing in the Sierras, to supply two major rivers, one flowing from the north, the other from the south, for hundreds of miles, and both flowing into probably the best natural bay in the world.
When I was a kid, the biggest natural hazard in the Valley was what they called the "tule fog", like a white night, so thick you couldn't see your hand (or the car ahead) in front of your face. When I heard the fire had jumped the Sacramento River, I was shocked. Seemed impossible. Not unheard-of. The Indians used to do controlled burns to clear the brush and fertilize the soil. But it did not hurt the precious oak trees. Now, fire tornadoes. And those not familiar with the region, don't know that the smoke from those fires is suffused with poison oak. Which will blister your lungs. The new normal has come on so fast. Preventive measures, like controlled burns and spark suppressors, are really the only way to cope. But for Californians respect for their natural environment is almost a religion. Confident they will.
groundloop
(11,521 posts)Damn what a tragedy.
hunter
(38,322 posts)Yes, these huge hot fires are caused by humans, but it's not how they start that makes them catastrophic.
A safe forest pattern is a patchwork of many small burns that clear out the underbrush but don't kill the trees... well, it would be if global warming wasn't already severely stressing or killing the trees, leaving them in a state where they burn easily.
I suspect many of these fire ravaged forests are never coming back.
Collimator
(1,639 posts)And I think that what others are stressing is the re-allocating (and sometimes the virtual depletion) of natural resources are what lead to the imbalances that can take natural forces of destruction--leading to new creation--and crank them up to catastrophic levels.
Sooner or later, Nature shuffles and deals out a new hand of cards in the game of evolution. Our species keeps turning more and more biomass into human creatures. When the carrying capacity of the land is over-reached for a particular species, there is usually a crash in the population.
If any on the Right believe this on an inner level (instead of assuming Jesus will take over), then they want the poor and non-white to be the ones that crash, while they survive as apex predators.
MurrayDelph
(5,300 posts)"Flat Tire Causes Carr Fire."
Igel
(35,336 posts)And somebody slapped the, um, title down.
xor
(1,204 posts)Didn't some firefighters die fighting the fire? Watching video of the fires, it's frightening how quickly it moved and how violent these fires are. Isn't it pretty much accepted that our own fire management policies help breed these quickly moving fires?
When I was teenager my family used to go camping on Whiskeytown lake every summer. I always loved that area. I have some family who lives in the area too, but they didn't lose their homes or anything.