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riversedge

(70,265 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 07:34 PM Aug 2018

Mueller Gets 'Firewall' for U.S.-Secrets Review in a Russia Case

Source: bloomberg.com




August 6, 2018, 1:26 PM CDT


The U.S. judge overseeing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal case against Russians accused of interfering in the 2016 election agreed to appoint an independent lawyer to review pretrial evidence for possible national security issues before giving it to a Kremlin-linked defendant.

U.S. District Judge Dabney Friedrich in Washington on Monday approved a request to appoint a so-called firewall counsel envisioned as part of an earlier ruling on Mueller’s concern about providing evidence to Yevgeny Prigozhin, a longtime associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Prigozhin’s firm, Concord Management and Consulting LLC, was also indicted.

Mueller’s team had argued that if Prigozhin gains access to “sensitive” evidence, he could use it to thwart U.S. efforts to “prevent his continuing criminal activity in Russia and elsewhere” outside the U.S. Prigozhin, who provides food services to the Kremlin, is known as Putin’s chef. He and his company are among three firms and 13 people accused of producing propaganda at a Russian troll factory to whip up political strife in the U.S.

The U.S. said last month that the sensitive material includes information describing the government’s investigative techniques, identities of people and companies that are cooperating, and personal identifying information on individuals in the U.S. who were victims of identity theft................................

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-06/mueller-secures-firewall-counsel-over-evidence-in-russia-case?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=bd&utm_campaign=headline&cmpId=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo



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Mueller Gets 'Firewall' for U.S.-Secrets Review in a Russia Case (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2018 OP
Very good news. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #1
K & R Wwcd Aug 2018 #2
Bob is crossing his t's and dotting his i's Botany Aug 2018 #3
It's why this kind of case is fairly rare. Igel Aug 2018 #4
Thanks for this important post, river - and FUCK YOU, PRIGOZHIN Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #5
This is not at all unusual. This is how terrorists, spies and traitors are always treated in court. McCamy Taylor Aug 2018 #6
A American that swore to defend and protect the Country and the Constitution.............. turbinetree Aug 2018 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #8
One step ahead Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #9
Hell yes! orangecrush Aug 2018 #10

Igel

(35,332 posts)
4. It's why this kind of case is fairly rare.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 07:48 PM
Aug 2018

The more sensitive the information, the harder for the defendant to mount a good defense. Does the defendant even get to see all the evidence the jury sees? Does the judge put his thumb on the scales of justice or merely produce summaries--"this is the evidence as I see it" sort of thing? Counterintelligence cases are most often dealt with using other tools, since very often the people involved aren't citizens, aren't entitled to be in the US, and can easily be punished by mere expulsion and penalties if they return to the US. That's how we've done things for many a generation. Until now, when all things are legal, apparently, or should be.


Easier to have this kind of defendant when they're tried in absentia. But then there's no defense at all and the issue of "fairness" is as far from the trial as Smolensk is from Kolyma. Criminal cases aren't tried this way, but in the absence of a trial the perception of winning seems to be on the accuser, i.e., the prosecutor. Hence the "Mueller's onto something, look at all the indictments." In other words, "Look at all the claims of guilt." Yeah, and Linus Pauling was onto something, so is Trump, look at all the claims. If wishes were fishes ... Now, if if the domestic domestic and the case would certainly go to trial, people are a bit more savvy than if they're international and a trial isn't likely.

Leghorn21

(13,525 posts)
5. Thanks for this important post, river - and FUCK YOU, PRIGOZHIN
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 07:56 PM
Aug 2018

He’s a very very bad man

HANG TOUGH, MR. MUELLER

turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
7. A American that swore to defend and protect the Country and the Constitution..............
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:29 PM
Aug 2018

from traitors..................from within and out.........Bob Mueller.....

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