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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:51 AM Aug 2018

Ohio Dem Danny O'Connor Takes on Pelosi As Race Too Close to Call: We Need 'New Generation...

Source: Mediate



Ohio Dem Danny O’Connor Takes on Pelosi As Race Too Close to Call: We Need ‘New Generation of Leadership’

by Ken Meyer | Aug 8th, 2018, 8:14 am

Democratic Ohio congressional candidate Danny O’Connor gave an interview to CNN on Wednesday, during which he took the opportunity to take shots at Republican opponent Troy Balderson along with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Even though Balderson most likely defeated O’Conner last night in their battle for the right-leaning district, election officials are still sorting through the ballots after the race was deemed to close to call right away. During his conversation with John Berman, O’Conner went into detail about his campaign’s outreach strategy and his thoughts about what the election could say about the rest of the country.

Since O’Connor has been clear about his aversion to Pelosi in the past, he was asked whether supporting her is too politically “toxic” now for Democrats trying to attract new voters. O’Connor answered that people clearly want “a new generation of leadership” in Washington, therefore they’re intrigued by those who present themselves as independents focused on the issues.

“We can do better than we’re doing right now. We need to have the backs of working folks. Folks ask me why I’m running for office and it’s because there are families who get up every day, they get their kids on the school bus, they clock into work, they come home, they help their kids with home work, and they do everything right but no one is fighting for them in Washington.”


Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ohios-danny-oconnor-speaks-out-on-balderson-and-pelosi-as-tight-race-still-too-close-to-call/
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Ohio Dem Danny O'Connor Takes on Pelosi As Race Too Close to Call: We Need 'New Generation... (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
I heard him say that this morning. Funtatlaguy Aug 2018 #1
He needs to stay quiet on those topics, its all food fo republicans Perseus Aug 2018 #5
yeap, in the least he needs to get his feet wet in Congress before he starts to onetexan Aug 2018 #14
He is talking to specific voters he needs on his side in Ohio: the so-called Reagan Democrats beastie boy Aug 2018 #19
He said it on Morning Joe also.......Mediate published both it seems.......... riversedge Aug 2018 #28
Can't disagree with anything he says. Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #2
Heard that crap and changed the channel. nt DURHAM D Aug 2018 #3
+1 MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #8
Remember, Diebold, Ohio, Florida and Bush vs Gore? saidsimplesimon Aug 2018 #4
So the voting machines were rigged when... brooklynite Aug 2018 #16
Yes! Count ALL the votes! Iwasthere Aug 2018 #18
Ugggg. MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #6
To be fair, he didn't mention her name. Funtatlaguy Aug 2018 #10
I completely agree Freddie Aug 2018 #12
I was rooting for him but that's not smart, especially WHEN HE LOST. brush Aug 2018 #21
Nancy Pelosi is the person who consistently raises money for Democrats & the Democratic Party Hestia Aug 2018 #24
Agree for all her accomplishments AND flaws we need her onetexan Aug 2018 #30
Saying the the Party needs younger leadership is now "bashing". Good to know..... brooklynite Aug 2018 #17
Change for the sake of change is not always a change for the better. Snellius Aug 2018 #7
I tend to agree. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #9
And that's fine... Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #11
Took shots at Pelosi? Nice try, Mr. Twisted Writer...anything to stir things up...who needs Putin? Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #13
O'Conner should try talking about the rampant grifting and DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #15
And just think he is getting confirmation hearings on judges and the US Supreme Court turbinetree Aug 2018 #20
Well, if he gets elected and can convince a bunch of actual congresspersons ehrnst Aug 2018 #22
Want O'Connor to win, but he needs to cease and desist with trying to bring down Pelosi. iluvtennis Aug 2018 #23
I agree with Danny. The Republicans are HORRIBLE people and we should be kicking their WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2018 #25
Nancy Pelosi is a National Treasure . stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #26
WE NEED A NEW GENERATION OF DEMOCRATIC LEADERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kwassa Aug 2018 #27
Yes, we do. It's always been a complaint since the Democratic Party was in charge starting in the Hestia Aug 2018 #31
I'm glad O'Connor is not taking any bait from Republicans or the "concerned" media. lapucelle Aug 2018 #29

Funtatlaguy

(10,885 posts)
1. I heard him say that this morning.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:53 AM
Aug 2018

He didn’t say anything negative about Nancy unless you consider it age discrimination for him to say we need new and younger leadership.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
5. He needs to stay quiet on those topics, its all food fo republicans
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:05 AM
Aug 2018

Once in a while some thoughts need to stay inside the head, at this point in the history of the USA it is best to stay united and not create division because it only feeds the right. How easy it is now to say "not even democrats want Pelosi", there you go, you have given them a slogan for their base...

Why do the idiot base of the republican party stays united? because they see a consistent message, republican politicians never act according to their principles (there is no proof they have any but...), they follow the leaders without question, that unity that single-mindedness appeals to their base.

Having someone who has and can fight republicans, like Pelosi can, is not a bad thing.

onetexan

(13,056 posts)
14. yeap, in the least he needs to get his feet wet in Congress before he starts to
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:49 AM
Aug 2018

lob criticism at others who've been in before. Doing it when you're a neophyte discredits you, not to mention someone whose accomplished alot during her years as a House member as Pelosi.

beastie boy

(9,393 posts)
19. He is talking to specific voters he needs on his side in Ohio: the so-called Reagan Democrats
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:34 AM
Aug 2018

He knows full well he can do nothing about Pelosi in the short term, and I have no doubt he will support Pelosi 100% once he gets elected. In the long term, it's a given that we need and will have a new generation of Democratic leaders. I also suspect that Pelosi herself will facilitate the transition once she achieves her goal of taking over the House.

What I hear is O'Connor articulating a multi-faceted long term course of action and, arguably, positioning himself to work in concert with the current Democratic leaders. It is to his credit that he can put it in terms that appeal to the voters he needs to win in November.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
2. Can't disagree with anything he says.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:57 AM
Aug 2018

Congress is generally whiter, older, and more male than the population at-large. We need to see that remedied.

While Nancy Pelosi should continue to be listened to and consulted, the leadership torch needs to be passed to someone like Schiff or Lieu.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
4. Remember, Diebold, Ohio, Florida and Bush vs Gore?
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:04 AM
Aug 2018

It is astonishing that Democrats, some Republicans and the O'Conner team pulled off this upset in Ohio. It is my hope that they will insist on participating in a recount. Do not concede until there is a fair and unbiased count of all those votes, including those forced to vote provisional ballots.

It is not "most likely" that O'Connor was defeated and I don't subscribe to this reporter's characterization.

Even though Balderson most likely defeated O’Conner last night

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
16. So the voting machines were rigged when...
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:19 AM
Aug 2018

Sherrod Brown won in 2006 and 2012?
Ted Strickland won in 2006?
Barack Obama won in 2008 and 2012?

Pretty crappy technology if you ask me.....

I know the current and former Party Chairs; I've asked them about this; they say it didn't happen.

Republicans steal elections the old fashioned way.

Funtatlaguy

(10,885 posts)
10. To be fair, he didn't mention her name.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:19 AM
Aug 2018

Many in our party just think it’s time for newer blood.
Admittedly, That can be stated more artfully than some have done by giving Pelosi and Other older leaders in our party their well deserved praise and respect.
Nancy is a great Dem and a great American.

But, as an old person myself, I’d love to see a mandatory retirement age in Congress.
Nancy is currently 78. I’d like to see it be mandatory that you can’t run again once you will reach 80 while in office.

If that makes me an ageist, so be it. We have a minimum age to be in Congress, why not a max age, as well. If this won’t fly, then just set term limits at 15 two year terms in the House (that’s 30 years - more than enuf to be in power).

Freddie

(9,272 posts)
12. I completely agree
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:35 AM
Aug 2018

POTUS too. We need new young faces! I'm old myself (61) and have no problem settling an upper age limit to these things.

brush

(53,815 posts)
21. I was rooting for him but that's not smart, especially WHEN HE LOST.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 11:15 AM
Aug 2018

Get elected first for God's sake.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
24. Nancy Pelosi is the person who consistently raises money for Democrats & the Democratic Party
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:50 PM
Aug 2018

by large margins. Younger voters do not "believe" in party, so as a result, the DNC bank account has really been raided and there isn't much there, because, you know, party.

I do not get why it is okay to crap all over Nancy Pelosi but every other woman needs to be fluffed and coddled. She is a tuff broad and can take care of herself, but this crapping all over her before even stepping foot in the Capitol, needs to stop. They don't even know her.

Democrats need to quit answering "gotcha" questions - which include abortion, "welfare", et al - because all it does is allow the 'pugs stay on top of messaging and the media plays right into it, and puts the Democratic contender at a losing position trying to play into the 'pug narrative.

I waiver back and forth on age-restriction. Nancy knows where the bodies are buried along with other older Democratic congress & senators. When we get back in charge for once and all, then we can help them in retiring. Until then, we need them now.

onetexan

(13,056 posts)
30. Agree for all her accomplishments AND flaws we need her
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 05:31 PM
Aug 2018

For the time being. Everything u've said is absolutely true. Nancy has provided steady, strong leadership. The Repugs fear her, which is why they bash her the same way they bashed Hillary. The youngsters need to give the senior party leadership the respect due them and learn the ropes from them.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
17. Saying the the Party needs younger leadership is now "bashing". Good to know.....
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:20 AM
Aug 2018

FWIW, I'd say half the Democratic House candidates I've talked to have said the same thing.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
7. Change for the sake of change is not always a change for the better.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:07 AM
Aug 2018

Since Pelosi has been turned into a rhetorical punching bag by Trump, all the more reason to punch back and stand your ground. Dropping your guard is like admitting weakness and conceding defeat. Protect your own.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
9. I tend to agree.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:10 AM
Aug 2018

We must get younger leaders into the party.

Nancy Pelosi and other party elders won't be around forever.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. And that's fine...
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:28 AM
Aug 2018

I just don't understand how anyone ever thought "I hate Nancy Pelosi" was something smart to run on... I thought we were all supposed to be fighting Trump?

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
15. O'Conner should try talking about the rampant grifting and
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:02 AM
Aug 2018

corruption of Trump, congressional Rs and the GOP in general. Maybe the residents of OH-12 won't like it when they learn of their hard-earned tax dollars are paying salaries and benefits to the likes of Chris Collins. Maybe they won't like it that 3 unelected Trump pals are secretly running the VA.

These are 2 of many better issues on which to campaign.

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
20. And just think he is getting confirmation hearings on judges and the US Supreme Court
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 11:11 AM
Aug 2018

that are so full of the Federalist Society, that just maybe this should be the topic of discussion, putting "people" on the bench, that hate the Constitution, hate workers rights, hate health care for all, etc..... and just love the shit out of having foreign "people" send money into campaigns and think that it is just fine to turn a blind eye to corruption for starters

And to top it all off have someone(s) commit treason, you think that would be a priority .............................maybe its just me liking someone that wants to fight for my progressive bleeding heart causes, and when that human being had the gavel, she fought for me........................she made mistakes, but she damn near always had my back and the countries back, what do we have now........................enabling traitors that think party is more important than country, maybe that's were some should start that are running for office...........................

November 2018 cannot get here soon enough................vote

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. Well, if he gets elected and can convince a bunch of actual congresspersons
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 11:22 AM
Aug 2018

that she's not the best person to actually do the job they've been electing her to do for years, that would be a big accomplishment for a newbie.

And not a likely one.

As for Nancy:

Pelosi’s message to Dems who criticize her while campaigning: ‘Just win, baby’

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/08/nancy-pelosi-democrats-criticize-response-573362

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
25. I agree with Danny. The Republicans are HORRIBLE people and we should be kicking their
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:53 PM
Aug 2018

butts every election. We're just not smart about so many friggin issues. Just have half a brain and the rest will take care of itself.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
27. WE NEED A NEW GENERATION OF DEMOCRATIC LEADERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 05:01 PM
Aug 2018

Speaking as an older white male. We boomers need to step aside, and look for strong younger leadership.

Pelosi is good, but won't let go, neither will Fienstein.

A new path needs to be forged. I don't know where it is coming from, and I sure as hell don't see it now.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
31. Yes, we do. It's always been a complaint since the Democratic Party was in charge starting in the
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 01:56 PM
Aug 2018

1960's, which is really what the GOP fights against -- and why they fight tooth and nail to stay in control of the narrative. The last time they stood down is when the Women's Movement, the Peace Movement, Equality for All Movement, Ecology Movement, et al. Which is what the GOP then starting tearing down, nail by nail, board by board, when they came in power; and part of the problem is that nobody stood up for all the movements, which gets us to today. History is important, even political history.

BUT! saying change is need now! is not going to help the Democratic Party in the mid-terms. AFTER we are back in charge, then let's start looking at the next generation and start changing within, but not now before one of the most important elections we have stood up and voted for. All the infighting in public is what is losing us elections.

There is a time and place for everything and now it's time for a united front in spite of what the trolls are trying to do.

There is a really good quote by Adlai Stevenson: "Change in inevitable. Change for the good is a full time job."

lapucelle

(18,303 posts)
29. I'm glad O'Connor is not taking any bait from Republicans or the "concerned" media.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 05:04 PM
Aug 2018

Steve Kornacki (undoubtedly a bit tired and shell shocked from a rough night) tried to get Eric Swalwell to take similar bait at about 1:00 am. No dice.

Chris Matthews did his best last month to stir up the MSM/Republican manufactured "controversy":

After saying for months he would not back Nancy Pelosi as the Democrats’ leader in the House, congressional candidate Danny O’Connor told a national television audience Tuesday night he would back whichever candidate the Democrats put forth.

Questioned repeatedly by MSNBC Hardball host Chris Matthews if he would support Pelosi if a Democratic speakership depended on his vote, he finally said: “I would support whoever the Democrat Party put foward.”

Previously, O’Connor several times gave the answer he has rendered on the campaign trail and in TV ads: Both parties in the House need new leadership, and “the old ways aren’t working.”

Danny ain't playing. I'm not either. Joe Scarborough and others have a "Democrats divided", revenue-generating narrative that they're looking to sell. No thanks.

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180724/after-long-dissing-pelosi-oconnor-now-says-he-could-vote-for-her-as-speaker
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