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riversedge

(70,270 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:08 PM Aug 2018

Trump officials open door to fracking in California

Source: the hill



By Miranda Green - 08/08/18 02:28 PM EDT


The Trump administration is starting the process of opening up large swaths of land in California to hydraulic fracturing.


In a notice issued to the Federal Register Wednesday, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) said it intends to analyze the impact of hydraulic fracturing, known as fracking, on publicly owned land throughout the state.

The area in question spans 400,000 acres of public land and 1.2 million acres of federal mineral estates throughout a number of California counties including Fresno, San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara.

The notice of intent says BLM will begin the scoping process for a supplemental Environmental Impact Statement, which will determine the effects of fracking on the environment. Fracking is a technology used to release oil and gas from land. The administration's intent is to eventually open up public land to new lease sales.

The announcement follows a 2017 lawsuit brought by the Center for Biological Diversity. That lawsuit challenged a 2015 attempt by the federal government to finalize a resource management plan that acknowledged fracking. In its settlement BLM promised that it would first provide an environmental impact statement before considering fracking.
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Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/400939-trump-administration-opens-door-to-fracking-in-california



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https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/08/08/2018-16957/notice-of-intent-for-potential-amendment-to-the-resource-management-plan-for-the-bakersfield-field


The Daily Journal of the United States Government
Notice

Notice of Intent for Potential Amendment to the Resource Management Plan for the Bakersfield Field Office, California, and To Prepare an Associated Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement

A Notice by the Land Management Bureau on 08/08/2018

This document has a comment period that ends in 30 days. (09/07/2018)
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Trump officials open door to fracking in California (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2018 OP
Attacking and selling off our public lands to the highest bidders Docreed2003 Aug 2018 #1
Every day there's another offense to nature 2naSalit Aug 2018 #2
What could go wrong, dingosatemyusername Aug 2018 #3
This won't be well received by Gov Brown and LuckyLib Aug 2018 #4
Ask Oklahoma how that works.... Toorich Aug 2018 #5
Trump would be happy to have California fall into the ocean. Lonestarblue Aug 2018 #11
Hell yes it will workinclasszero Aug 2018 #17
good luck with that, assface.... dhill926 Aug 2018 #6
Press release and another Federal Register link: mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #7
We need a fracking lease right near Mira lago. Then there should be an oil drilling right off water notdarkyet Aug 2018 #8
We need more Earthquakes MattP Aug 2018 #9
Trump admin expects atmopsheric CO2 to be 790 ppm by 2100 (apparently just some number to them) progree Aug 2018 #10
Yeah, let's crack the crust of the earth louis-t Aug 2018 #12
Mildly related MosheFeingold Aug 2018 #13
Chumash Super Glue Brother Buzz Aug 2018 #14
Pretty cool really MosheFeingold Aug 2018 #15
I understood pitch was just basically plucked from tree trunks early on Brother Buzz Aug 2018 #19
Fracking plus the San Andreas fault workinclasszero Aug 2018 #16
Don Quixote Trump is tilting at windmills to connect with his base SkatmanRoth Aug 2018 #18
Hey trump -- Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #20

Docreed2003

(16,869 posts)
1. Attacking and selling off our public lands to the highest bidders
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:14 PM
Aug 2018

These lands weren't set aside for a rainy day, they weren't meant to be used as a candy store to the fossil fuel industry....this is an atrocity and an outrage. The plus for Trump is this move also hurst California.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
4. This won't be well received by Gov Brown and
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:24 PM
Aug 2018

the majority of Californians. Wrong state to play Trumpian environment games.

Toorich

(391 posts)
5. Ask Oklahoma how that works....
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:27 PM
Aug 2018

when earthquakes go from a few dozen undetectables to 1000's of hard hitters.
San Andreas will probably unzip all the way to Portland.

Lonestarblue

(10,038 posts)
11. Trump would be happy to have California fall into the ocean.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:59 PM
Aug 2018

All those Democratic voters who helped Clinton win the popular vote need to be punished. And he doesn’t care one iota about about undermining an already sensitive earthquake-prone area because he doesn’t care what happens to people. It’s all about revenge and making money—or should I say taking money.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
17. Hell yes it will
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:25 PM
Aug 2018

And Putin’s puppet will laugh his ass off as the biggest blue state in the nation suffers!

dhill926

(16,351 posts)
6. good luck with that, assface....
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:27 PM
Aug 2018

there would be major protests....and maybe just a little monkeywrenching...

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
7. Press release and another Federal Register link:
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:28 PM
Aug 2018

The Federal Register article in the .pdf version:

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2018-08-08/pdf/2018-16957.pdf

Center of Biological Diversity press release:

For Immediate Release, August 8, 2018

Contacts: Clare Lakewood, Center for Biological Diversity, (415) 316-8615, clakewood@biologicaldiversity.org
Greg Loarie, Earthjustice, (415) 217-2000, gloarie@earthjustice.org

Trump Administration Moves to Reopen California Public Lands to Oil Leasing

Process Could End 5-year Moratorium on Leasing Federal Land to Oil Companies


BAKERSFIELD, Calif.— The Trump administration today took the first step in a process that could open more than a million acres of public land and mineral estate in central California to oil drilling and fracking. The move could end a five-year-old moratorium on leasing federal public land in the state to oil companies.

Today’s notice from the Bureau of Land Management seeks comments on the potential harms of fracking in 400,000 acres of public land and an additional 1.2 million acres of federal mineral estate in Fresno, Kern, Kings, Madera, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Tulare and Ventura counties.

“This step toward opening our beautiful public lands to fracking and drilling is part of the Trump administration’s war on California,” said Clare Lakewood, a senior attorney at the Center for Biological Diversity. “We desperately need to keep these dirty fossil fuels in the ground. But Trump is hell-bent on sacrificing our health, wildlife and climate to profit big polluters.”

In 2015 the Center for Biological Diversity and Los Padres ForestWatch, represented by Earthjustice, successfully sued the BLM for approving a resource management plan allowing oil and gas drilling and fracking on vast stretches of California’s public lands without adequately analyzing and disclosing the impacts of fracking on air quality, water and wildlife.

As a result of the groups’ legal victory, the BLM agreed to complete a new analysis of the pollution risks of fracking before deciding whether to allow drilling and fracking on public land across California’s Central Valley, the southern Sierra Nevada and in Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo and Ventura counties.

The BLM has not held a single lease sale in California since 2013 when a federal judge first ruled that the agency had violated the National Environmental Policy Act by issuing oil leases in Monterey County without considering the environmental dangers of fracking.

Fracking is an extreme oil-extraction process that blasts toxic chemicals mixed with water underground to crack rocks. The public lands at stake encompass “numerous groundwater systems that contribute to the annual water supply used by neighboring areas for agricultural and urban purposes,” a federal judge noted in 2016.

A 2015 report from the California Council on Science and Technology concluded that fracking in California happens at unusually shallow depths, dangerously close to underground drinking water supplies, with unusually high concentrations of chemicals, including substances dangerous to human health and the environment.

Today’s announcement comes after San Luis Obispo residents, concerned about the harms fracking poses to their county, placed a voter initiative on the November election ballot. If passed, Measure G will ban fracking and new oil and gas wells in San Luis Obispo County.

“It’s great that BLM is finally going to look at this problem,” said Greg Loarie, an attorney at Earthjustice. “But analyzing the impacts of fracking is like analyzing the impacts of smoking cigarettes: there’s really no question that more fracking would be terrible for California.”

The BLM’s 30-day comment period for the proposal begins today.

The Center for Biological Diversity is a national, nonprofit conservation organization with more than 1.6 million members and online activists dedicated to the protection of endangered species and wild places.


notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
8. We need a fracking lease right near Mira lago. Then there should be an oil drilling right off water
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:52 PM
Aug 2018

Smack in trump view. I wonder how he would like it. I don’t think he would allow it.

progree

(10,911 posts)
10. Trump admin expects atmopsheric CO2 to be 790 ppm by 2100 (apparently just some number to them)
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127119016
Ultimate source: https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060092895

Although the White House has avoided addressing climate change, it made a rare acknowledgement that its proposal to weaken vehicle fuel efficiency standards would contribute to a warmer planet. Its prediction for what the atmosphere will look like in 2100 startled climate scientists — a carbon dioxide concentration of 789.76 parts per million.

... The concentration of atmospheric CO2 has risen more than 35 percent since before the Industrial Revolution, when it was estimated to be 280 ppm, according to Scripps. When scientists first started recording CO2 about 60 years ago, it was 320 ppm. This year, that number hit 410.31, a record high in modern history and a sharp increase since 2013, when CO2 levels surpassed 400 ppm for the first time, according to Scripps.

... The number used by the Trump administration assumes that fossil fuel consumption will continue to rise every year, said Ralph Keeling, head of the CO2 program at the University of California, San Diego's Scripps Institution of Oceanography. It does not account for competition from renewable energy, emissions reduction policies or the assumption that the market can support that rate of growth, he said. It also doesn't account for a significant global effort to curb emissions, such as the Paris climate agreement.


My math says an increase from 280 to 410.31 is 46.5%, not 35%. We're like just 3 or so years away from 420 ppm, which is the 50% increase point. (Remember 350.org? )

This is insane - we'd be back to the climate of like 45 million years ago (no ice anywhere). Well, the ice isn't all going to melt in 82 years, but if it continued at a near 1000 CO2 ppm, per past climate history, it will all be eventually gone.

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
12. Yeah, let's crack the crust of the earth
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 05:07 PM
Aug 2018

and inject millions of gallons of toxic chemicals into the ground in a state full of fault lines. What could possibly go wrong?

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
13. Mildly related
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 05:12 PM
Aug 2018

But after WWII, I explored the USA briefly and was shocked to see oil on the beaches on my one and only trip to California.

I assumed it was refuse from ships sunk during the war, but apparently the cause is the Monterey Formation (the shale oil formation from where the oil comes from) rises up to the sea floor in a number of places and naturally leaks oil into the water.

It's the essentially the same phenomena that created the La Brea tar pits, but the pits have become more like asphalt as the lighter hydrocarbons are eaten by bacteria or evaporate into the atmosphere.

Anyway, I was very surprised to learn "oil seeps" were a thing, although I suppose that's how they knew to drill oil wells there in the first place.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
15. Pretty cool really
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 06:56 PM
Aug 2018

They used the tar to seal boats.

It's essentially the same as pitch, which is usually made from tree sap and fat, but pitch has to be made, instead of just gathered up.

In my ancestral home (Israel and really everyone around, especially in Saudi), there are tar deposits, which the proto-Semitic peoples until now used to seal boats, as well. It was a big part of why Alexander and later Romans were so interested in the area. In fact, it's mentioned in the Torah in a number of places (e.g., Genesis 14:10 "Now the Valley of Siddim was full of tar pits,&quot

(I guess we've been fighting over oil reserves for a long time.)

Brother Buzz

(36,453 posts)
19. I understood pitch was just basically plucked from tree trunks early on
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:55 PM
Aug 2018

Nifty stuff for affixing points to shafts, albeit brittle.

California Indians had all the pitch they needed, but discovered oil tar (asphaltum) was far superior.

For hundreds and hundreds of years there was a brisk commerce, trading coastal asphaltum (think hot glue) and Sierra obsidian. That is, until the Spanish arrived and decided to glom on to all of the tar for their own uses.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
16. Fracking plus the San Andreas fault
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:23 PM
Aug 2018

Do Californians realize that Trump is trying to kill you with fire, heat and now manmade earthquakes?

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
18. Don Quixote Trump is tilting at windmills to connect with his base
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:44 PM
Aug 2018

We knew years ago fracking in California was a non-starter.

U.S. officials cut estimate of recoverable Monterey Shale oil by 96%

The underground geology of California is not suitable for fracking.

The problem lies with the geology of the Monterey Shale, a 1,750-mile formation running down the center of California roughly from Sacramento to the Los Angeles basin and including some coastal regions.

Unlike heavily fracked shale deposits in North Dakota and Texas, which are relatively even and layered like a cake, Monterey Shale has been folded and shattered by seismic activity, with the oil found at deeper strata.

Compared with oil production from the Bakken Shale in North Dakota and the Eagle Ford Shale in Texas, "the Monterey formation is stagnant," Staub said. He added that the potential for recovering the oil could rise if new technology is developed.


This is just Trump's version of "drill baby drill". It fits his rhetoric of 'energy independence' and will be lapped up by his supporters, but the energy companies will not be perusing new oil leases.


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