And those votes came from red counties. The SOB's are holding back.

I wonder how many seats we lost bc of garbage like this.

We gained 190 with just 588 so with 8000 we can do it!

33% of 8,000 would be over 2,500 and that would do the trick.

Scumbag Husted purged thousands of Dem voters from the rolls, requiring them to vote by provisional ballot.

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There are a total of 3435 provisionals. of which 1349 are from Franklin, which went heavily for O'Connor. But the remaining 2000 or so provisionals are from counties that went for Balderson, in some instances by large margins.

There also are over 5000 "outstanding" absentee ballots -- which is simply the number of applied-for absentee ballots that have not yet been received. Some of them, but not all, will arrive in the next week (they had to be mailed no later than the day before election day).

I think O'Connor still has a chance to surpass Cavanaugh. What is the point of assuming otherwise, onenote?

I am hopeful, but I also like to remain grounded in reality. I guarantee that if the gap between Barderson and O'Connor increases after the provisionals and absentees are counted there will be DUers claiming that something nefarious is going on. In reality, it may simply reflect where the votes were and who cast them. For example, absentee ballots had to be requested by Saturday August 4 and Balderson shot himself in the foot on Monday so his gaffe presumably had a negligible impact on absentee voting.

And presumably the absentee ballots not yet counted were ones sent in at the last minute. So those folks may indeed have been swayed by the gaffe, and O'Connor's surge in popularity.

I too am grounded in reality. I just pointed out facts that you seem to negate. Your concern that unspecified "people" will "claim that something nefarious is going on" should he still fall short of surpassing Cavanaugh does not warrant the doom and gloom prognostications. Besides, under Secretary of State Husted, Democratic voters were strategically purged from the rolls, so something nefarious has indeed gone on.

... explained that the 8,000 number is probably not how many votes they actually have to count.

They got that number from how many provisional ballots that were sent out a month ago. They never get them all back, and there was a deadline for the ballots to be mailed by. The deadline has already passed but they still need to wait to see if any more come in by snail mail. The actual number of uncounted votes will end up being around 1,000 or so. It still could make a big difference to O'Connor though.

Here's hoping!

5048 are "outstanding" absentee ballots. That is not the same as received but uncounted absentee ballots. In fact, absentee ballots that have been received are the first votes counted on election day. The "outstanding" number of absentee ballots is the number of absentee ballots sent out to voters but not yet received back. One reason that the votes won't be counted for more than a week is to allow for the fact that some absentee ballots may still be "in the mail" (they can be postmarked up until the day before election day, I believe). So it may well be that there aren't going to be many additional absentee ballots -- certainly not 5000 plus.

3435 are provisional ballots cast on election day but not yet counted. How many of them will actually be counted will depend on whether the voters who cast provisionals do what is required to establish their eligibility to vote -- something that not all voters casting provisionals will do.

I realize now that I'm confusing provisional ballot with absentee ballot, and they're actually two different things.

Gosh, golly, those lovely, honest midwestern red state election worker folks sure got all flustered on voting day. Purely unintentional errors though.