Pence outlines plan for new Space Force by 2020
Source: APNews
WASHINGTON (AP) Vice President Mike Pence has announced plans for a new, separate U.S. Space Force as sixth military service by 2020
Pence says its needed to ensure Americas dominance in space amid heightened competition and threats from China and Russia. He says that while space was once peaceful and uncontested, it is now crowded and adversarial.
President Donald Trump has called for a separate but equal space force. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has endorsed plans to reorganize the militarys space warfighting forces and create a new command, but has previously opposed launching an expensive separate new service.
Read more: https://apnews.com/4df1085b19d54e9b864e857012fecbb6/Pence-outlines-plan-for-new-Space-Force-by-2020
And this response by the president:
Link to tweet
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)The orbits that are useful for satellites are very finite and are full of both satellites and junk.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Most often, A and B are objective measures.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)What does that have to do with the fact that key satellites are frequently breaking because they bump into crap?
Note, I am not defending Trump or his new bureaucracy, but the simple fact is, yes, usable space is crowded and yes, bad actors like our buddy Putin have weapon designed to "de-orbit" critical infrastructure satellites.
The problems are real. It just that this solution is stupid.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)but these dummies are not talking about a clean up force.
Stuart G
(38,453 posts)Do you like that new word I just made up???? onionish...??.......
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)And manage to get away with it.
riversedge
(70,351 posts)notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)How do you think you will build a space force without technical know how? I know someone who has spent years working on rockfuel that would resign before working for nefarious purposes.
hibbing
(10,110 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)that President Eisenhower warned us about has just become bat shit crazy.
SpankMe
(2,970 posts)The USAF Space Command is doing a great job at military space, and it works well with the other branches. This "Space Force" farce will just add another bureaucracy to the Pentagon and make it harder to do business between the branches.
Frankly, if I was a new POTUS wanting to invent a new branch of the military that was really necessary to fulfill an urgent need, I'd create a US Cyber Force to cover the amazingly perilous future of cyber war. Believe me - it's the next real frontier of "armed" engagement between nations.
!@$cyber
rurallib
(62,465 posts)And it will become yet another giant black hole that will suck all our money.
Then there won't be any money for food stamps or health care or social security or vets or education or ....................
lamp_shade
(14,846 posts)I just can't.
turbinetree
(24,726 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)It says "We came in peace for all mankind".
PatSeg
(47,649 posts)I laughed out loud. Poor Mikey has to go out there and make a fool out of himself for the boss and Trump is probably laughing his ass off.
Srkdqltr
(6,341 posts)NASA? USAF? What a dumbass
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)This is just so incredibly stupid and dumb.
marble falls
(57,355 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,374 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)And rightly so. USAF Space Command has this covered. The idea of a separate branch for this is incredibly stupid.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,374 posts)... to create the USAF?
paleotn
(17,989 posts)But the Army Air Force's footprint was huge at the time. They were for all practical purposes a separate service during WWII. The USAF has Space Command and that's about it. Hell, NASA can't even get Americans into LEO anymore.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Trump can't start a new branch of the military.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Vox Media
Stuart G
(38,453 posts)(that is from a play.. Pajama Game, play from the 50s, I know you haven't heard of it..few have)........................................ok.here is the answer.................................................................
Yes ...let us have a Space Force...(.send Pence and Mr. Orange up as soon as possible..)...no training...and leave them up there to go around and around and around..sure...give em enough food to last a lifetime..up there going around and around and around and around........
lunasun
(21,646 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)Trump started talking about how big the ocean was when he was asked when help would get to Puerto Rico after the hurricane!!!!!
djacq
(1,634 posts)Once the House flips, what makes Orange Clown and Snow Top think that funding will be approved?
Delarage
(2,186 posts)[link:
|Bayard
(22,181 posts)No peaceful exploration.........to where no one has gone before.
jcgoldie
(11,655 posts)...and build a SPACE WALL!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,304 posts)The most anti-science administration in a long time wants this.
That actually is the scary part.
Hotler
(11,452 posts)the staggering numbness that this man got elected and now this shit.
bucolic_frolic
(43,364 posts)A Space Cash Cow is still a Cash Cow with plenty of tax incentives and without the competition of say, hotels, casinos, or golf courses
ProfessorGAC
(65,248 posts)Geez, what a dumb idea! Like Gomer to Barney in the Andy and Helen get engaged (not) episode "What a dumb trick! Barney don't you ever call me dumb again. What a dumb trick."
The cost of just sending a routine patrol would require disbanding the marines.
Saviolo
(3,283 posts)Link to tweet
@Mikel_Jollett
Medicare for all: Too expensive!
Infrastructure: Too expensive!
Good schools: Too expensive!
Job training: Too expensive!
A living wage: Too expensive!
A whole new branch of the military but set in space, where no one lives:
Oh yeah, we can afford that!
ProfessorGAC
(65,248 posts)bringthePaine
(1,733 posts)to put all of his Space Cadets! Miserable Assholes' Galactic Armada🚀💩
maxsolomon
(33,432 posts)Watch as Trump campaigns on this issue for the next 2 years, accusing Dems of not caring if we give space to our enemies.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)Once we undertake a brief, inexpensive research and development program, we can begin fielding the space targeting lasers, and smiting the Enemies of Democracy from Space as God has provided. We can start by scorching poppy and coca fields from the sky, eliminating funding sources for terrorists, and as precision targeting improves, hit cannabis growers from Maine to California, destroying the libtards will to resist in their own backyards, and clearing the field for Big Pharma to supply opioides for the proles. Triple win. At least.
Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)Plenty of Solar and Nuclear Energy to harness and use against the enemies of the Milky way galaxy.
And Trump and Pence can go and administer that one in person. Send Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, too. I'd say send Ted Cruz as well, but he already looks like he's melting.