Before church crash, safety experts warned of 15-passenger van dangers for nearly two decades
Source: KSHB
In 2004, experts warned of low seatbelt use on the vans, finding more than three-quarters of the passengers killed were not wearing safety restraints.
According to the crash report, eight of the 13 people on the Faith Chapel van were not wearing seatbelts, including the three teens who died.
"People get in them, and they don't think they need to wear seatbelts in buses, and many buses don't have seatbelts anyway," Spagnoli said.
NHTSA even warned that fatal rollovers involving the vans were most likely to involve tire failures, which troopers say was the cause of the Faith Chapel crash.
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,857 posts)I am almost always the only one who does so.
ansible
(1,718 posts)Makes no goddamn sense, you get a ticket for driving without a seatbelt on in a car yet it's perfectly fine on a bus?
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)Without a dual wheel axle all of them should be banned. of course the church that that their faith would protect them. Good luck.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)being tax exempt
The Figment
(494 posts)A lot of people put passenger car tires on their Van which are not designed to handle the weight of a fully loaded 15 passenger vehicle, because their much cheaper than truck tires. I drive a Dodge 2500 extended van and the only tires that are ever put on this or any other van I have had are 10 ply top quality Truck tires.
Way more expensive, but my life and the life of others is well worth it.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)that our school bus didnt have seatbelts. I would definitely wear one in a van.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Maintenance is often iffy with multiple drivers and no one makes sure everything is safe. And they are often driven by inexperienced people who don't enforce safety rules. Driver should be assisted by another adult who makes sure everyone is belted in before proceeding.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)and hotel shuttles
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)These type of vans crash regularly it seems like
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)I NEVER ride in one without fastening my seat belt, even if it only going a short distance.
Anyone who fails to fasten their seat belt in ANY vehicle that has them is a potential Darwin Award Winner.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)Get ready to duck!
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)I can tell you from installing carpet for 45 years what it feels like to have about 3,000 extra lbs in the back of a van. Luckily that load sets on the floor of the van so that helps. But...if loaded enough the front wheels get light to the touch because of all that weight back there. Most of the time it was just slow city driving but if out on the highway I knew to take it slow and start slowing for an exit ramp way,way before you got there.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to lobby for laws that they can insist on compliance to. That they apparently haven't yet suggests such accidents aren't common enough to make that desirable. Insurance companies are a big factor in both passage of and compliance with safety regulation.
30 years ago (!) I worked in property and casualty insurance, at one point for a brokerage specializing in church and private school clients. Who was allowed to drive was huge, and a few other things, but not wearing seat belts.
Clients were required to conform to risk management requirements, though. If we developed doubts and couldn't inspect, the company could and would fly someone out and either arrange for immediate compliance under supervision or cancel coverage on the spot. Ex-clients would then have to explain to new prospective insurers why coverage was cancelled, so compliance was the usual result.