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raptor_rider

(1,014 posts) Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:26 AM Aug 2018

NM Compound suspects could be released from jail as early as today

Source: KOBTV New Mexico

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – Four of the five adults arrested after a raid in northern New Mexico earlier this month could be released from jail as early as today.

Siraj Wahhaj would have to remain in jail because of a warrant out of Georgia, where he's accused of abducting his son.

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NM Compound suspects could be released from jail as early as today (Original Post) raptor_rider Aug 2018 OP

Fox and the RWNJs are going crazy with this! yallerdawg Aug 2018 #1

Bunch of abused children held in horrible christx30 Aug 2018 #2

All the judge had to do was read the same news reports you did. yallerdawg Aug 2018 #3

Or maybe not let these people out christx30 Aug 2018 #4

You think this sounds harmless? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #5

I think the judge determined there was no compelling reason... yallerdawg Aug 2018 #6

"No inordinate flight risk" from a group that kidnapped a child and crossed the continent? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #8

"We do these things not because they are easy but because they are hard." - JFK yallerdawg Aug 2018 #7

"far from ideal circumstances" - the death of one of the children in a bizarre ritual muriel_volestrangler Aug 2018 #9

Like I said... yallerdawg Aug 2018 #10

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

1. Fox and the RWNJs are going crazy with this!

Reply to raptor_rider (Original post)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:39 AM

Aug 2018

Love to see their snowflake minds being blown!

Well, you shouldn't have filled up all the border jails with minors, children and babies, dumbasses!

I guess 'rule of law' and 'constitutional protections' still prevail for some adults.

christx30

(6,241 posts)

2. Bunch of abused children held in horrible

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:05 AM

Aug 2018

conditions. One dead child, buried on property. Kids being trained to be mass murderers. Weapons all over the place. People get held pending trial all the time, for far less than these guys did.
Now, they’re out and about, having paid $0 bond, with only the promise to show up for trial. They know at this point, they’re looking at spending the rest few decades in prison. They have nothing to lose.
All because the idiotic prosecution can’t articulate why these guys might be dangerous to the community.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

3. All the judge had to do was read the same news reports you did.

Reply to christx30 (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:15 AM

Aug 2018

Then we could have skipped the trial.

christx30

(6,241 posts)

4. Or maybe not let these people out

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

Aug 2018

pending trial. Hell, people get treated more harshly for pot than this crap.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)

5. You think this sounds harmless?

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:26 PM

Aug 2018

State prosecutors outlined evidence suggesting that at least some of the suspects could have been planning some sort of attack. They said Siraj Wahhaj – who also faces child abduction charges from Georgia after allegedly taking his 3-year-old son – took several weapons classes before coming to New Mexico, and books found on the compound focused on how to build firearms at home.

Various weapons and ammo were found during the raid on August 3, and several more firearms were discovered in subsequent searches. The children were allegedly taught how to load and fire assault rifles.
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In addition, prosecutors described a letter sent to Siraj Wahhaj from his brother allegedly inviting him to come to New Mexico and die as a martyr.
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According to Taylor, the children were led to believe that the child, Abdul-Ghani Wahhaj, "would become Jesus" when his demons were exorcised. He added that once the child "became Jesus," he would instruct the others of the property or the family what corrupt institutions to get rid of."

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

6. I think the judge determined there was no compelling reason...

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:38 PM

Aug 2018

to keep "the accused" in jail until trial.

No inordinate flight risk, no danger to the community - this is how our legal system works, with the presumption of innocence as a fundamental human right.

I wouldn't argue for anything else.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)

8. "No inordinate flight risk" from a group that kidnapped a child and crossed the continent?

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:17 PM

Aug 2018

"No danger to the community" from people who collected arms and encouraged each other to die as martyrs, taking out bits of teh government?

Your rose-tinted spectacles are encrusted with dreams of unicorns.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

7. "We do these things not because they are easy but because they are hard." - JFK

Reply to raptor_rider (Original post)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:56 PM

Aug 2018

After four hours of testimony on Monday, a judge sided with the defense. She ruled that the suspects were not shown to be a threat and allowed them unsecured bond.

"What I've heard here today is troubling, definitely. Troubling facts about numerous children in far from ideal circumstances and individuals who are living in a very unconventional way -- although if you have lived in northern New Mexico for any period of time you are aware that many people here live in unconventional ways," Judge Sarah Backus said.

"If these were white people of a Christian faith who owned guns, that's not a big deal because there's a Second Amendment right to own firearms in this country. If these were white Christians, faith healing is of no consequence because we have freedom of religion in this country. But they look different and they worship differently from the rest of us," Thomas Clark said Monday.

"When black Muslims do it there seems to be something nefarious, something evil," he later said outside the courthouse.

http://www.kitv.com/story/38874006/new-mexico-compound-suspects-can-be-freed-on-bond-judge-says

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)

9. "far from ideal circumstances" - the death of one of the children in a bizarre ritual

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:20 PM

Aug 2018

that they wanted to follow with an attack on the USA.

That judge is a grade A idiot. She needs to retire.

If they were Christians, we 'd be saying "these fundamentalists are the real danger in this country".This wasn't "faith healing"; it was faith killing. Clark is a lying weasel. Yes, killing a child is "evil".

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

10. Like I said...

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:47 PM

Aug 2018

apparently she doesn't have the "reliable sources" that DUers have.

Why have a trial when all you have to do is read the paper, listen to the pundits, and believe the prosecution? - just a waste of time.

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