Guidance counselor may lose job after Catholic school learns she has a wife
Source: MSN
A guidance counselor at an Indianapolis Catholic school has been placed on administrative leave after school officials discovered she was married to woman.
Shelley Fitzgerald has worked at Roncalli High School, which is run by the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Indianapolis, for 15 years and has been with her now-wife for 22 years.
Fitzgerald said school administrators gave her an ultimatum: resign or "dissolve" her marriage. "I have no intention of resigning, I have no intention of being quiet, and I didn't need the counsel that they were offering from the priest," she told WTHR.
Fitzgerald confirmed to NBC News that she has hired an attorney. However, she told WTHR that she hopes a dialogue with the diocese and the school will avoid a discrimination lawsuit.
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iluvtennis
(19,858 posts)that says one needs to be of a certain sexual persuasion, race, religion, etc. She's been a guidance counselor for 15 years at this school so she must be doing a heck of a job or else she would have been let go long ago.
Hope she gets a good employment discrimination lawyer and gets a huge settlement.
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,446 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Surprisingly, every go-round of this common trope seems to surprise someone.
Catholic schools regularly fire people for unwed pregnancies, same-sex relationships, and a host of other things that you'd pretty much expect Catholic schools to fire people over.
No, a mosque is not required to hire a baptist minister if one shows up for a job interview for spiritual leader, but I gather some folks don't quite get that.
pstokely
(10,528 posts)on their own time
dembotoz
(16,804 posts)always been that way
always will
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,857 posts)Oh, and I believe religious organizations can discriminate this way. They shouldn't be able to, but they've been getting away with it forever.
iluvtennis
(19,858 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If a mosque is looking for a new imam, and a baptist minister shows up, then they should not be allowed to say, "Sorry, we are only going to hire a Muslim for this position?" They should not be allowed to discriminate on the basis of religion or religious practice?
Don't you think that might make things a little awkward?
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I am not knowledgeable as to the qualifications of an Iman. Are they ordained as in Christian sects? Do they graduate from an approved seminary like protestant and Catholic ministers? Just wondering. Guess I better get educated. What little I do know is somewhat confusing. It seems that the important qualification is acceptance of their Six Articles of Faith. One of which is predestination. That would leave me out. Also, I may have misinterpreted but the Holy Books are without error and must be regarded as holy. I don't think they have a set education, but honor knowledge as an important virtue. Like I said it is a bit confusing.
In early Christianity there wasn't a set education either and this only developed latter with the establishment of seminaries around the time of the Reformation. A relatively late development and was in answer to the lack of training that some priests exhibited and the demand for uniformity.
Thanks.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)As one does not often run into too many Christians who are the spiritual leaders of mosques.
Likewise, one does not often find Catholics in charge of Baptist churches.
One might imagine that it would be somewhat awkward if the law required religious institutions to hire persons who did not share the beliefs or practices of the religious institution in question.
janterry
(4,429 posts)An Imam or Baptist preacher who changes their mind. At some point, if they no longer ascribe to their original faith - then the church has a right to let them go.
I feel bad for this woman, she sounds nice. But she did work for the church. She knows the teaching better than most.....
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Sgent
(5,857 posts)a friend of mine was living with his boyfriend, and his boyfriends employer forced them to separate. It wasn't that they were gay, it was that his boyfriend is an Episcopal minister and the Bishop required them to either separate or get married.
Married they are now
Submariner
(12,504 posts)eyeballs in child rape cover ups and payoffs, they need all the help they can get right now to stay afloat and be relevant in a changing society that accepts the LGBT community. So they should just STFU and let her continue doing her job.
keithbvadu2
(36,806 posts)After many decades of the CC protecting their pederast priests.
And moving them around to 'prey' on other children.
Maggiemayhem
(809 posts)In 2013, the Vatican bought an apartment block for 23 million to houses priests and church leaders that has as a tenant the latest gay spa in Europe.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)and should be encouraged. Then there are good Christians like Trump with his multiple wives and affairs.
Maggiemayhem
(809 posts)iluvtennis
(19,858 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)Now they find out about it? More likely they knew but someone with money complained.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)ROB-ROX
(767 posts)I hope she gets a very good lawyer and gets MILLIONS$$ Too pay for her pain and suffering. We are in the 22nd century not the 1st century. I do not think her contract required her to change her private life habits or being a Catholic for employment............I think the Bastards who caused this PROBLEM should be publicly punished.......... I believe the Catholic private school education does provide on OUTSTANDING education and the students will excel in college.....
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Religious entities' employment contracts ALWAYS include morality clauses that state your employment can be terminated for things like them finding out you're a practicing lesbian.
I think it's bullshit too, but they're allowed to do it.
AwakeAtLast
(14,125 posts)She just graduated. Ugh.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)Religious entities can do whatever they want to people in this country (Christian ones anyway), but it is not at all useless for people to speak out. I am glad the guidance counselor hired an attorney, they won't win, but they can perhaps embarrass the school administration some. Telling someone they can keep their job if they get a divorce is worse than a bigoted institution just firing someone with no discussion, humiliating that they offered her "counseling".
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Towards male homosexuality the Catholic Church's attitude is more or less "don't ask, don't tell." That includes the attitude of the clergy and the hierarchy, and Catholic communicants have more or less fallen in line. As long as it's not going on in front of their children, they can look the other way.
But when female homosexuality is discovered within the ranks, it's Katie-bar-the-door and get these sinners out of here.