The US Government Is Updating Its Nuclear Disaster Plans And They Are Truly Terrifying
Source: Buzzfeed News
Amid concerns over North Korea, federal emergency managers are updating disaster plans to account for large nuclear detonations over the 60 largest US cities, according to a US Federal Emergency Management Agency official.
The North Koreans have really changed the calculus, Cham Dallas of the Institute for Disaster Management at the University of Georgia told workshop participants. We really have to look at thermonuclear now.
... last year North Korea tested an apparent thermonuclear bomb with a surprisingly large estimated blast size of 250 kilotons, a city buster much bigger than past test blasts and nearly the size of current US intercontinental ballistic missile warheads. The test blast kicked off a new era of nuclear anxiety in the US.
The new FEMA plan will also have to consider modern contingencies such as cyberweapons striking power plants and cell phone signals before a blast, or a nuclear blackmail scenario where a single bomb is detonated followed by threats to set off more unless demands are met.
Read more: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/north-korea-nuclear-bomb-fema-plans
keithbvadu2
(36,806 posts)But, but, but didn't Dotard say NK was no longer such a big threat?
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Especially since Trump is 72 yrs old and in serious trouble...
Why the fuck should he care..
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"Trump's meeting with Kim has given us world peace"
Chemisse
(30,811 posts)Even Fox must have conceded that the N Korea summit didn't make any real difference.
NickB79
(19,243 posts)Due to nuclear winter's effects on crops alone: https://gizmodo.com/limited-nuclear-strikes-could-still-wreak-climate-hav-1796931266
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)What would more likely to cause mass starvation though is not nuclear winter but simply the disruption in trade and of the shipping of food.
Countries like China and India would feel the effects first followed by the others depending on how dependent each country is on importing food.
NickB79
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The resulting oxidation of carbonaceous materials (e.g., soils, biomass, fossil fuels, asphalt, plastics) was estimated to disperse >5 million metric tons (5 Tg C) of black carbon smoke particles into the stratosphere.77 Black carbon is the radiation-absorbing components of soot, which are elemental carbon and some condensed organics; V. Ramanathan and G. Carmichael, Global and Regional Climate Changes due to Black Carbon, Nature Geoscience 1, no. 4 (2008), 22127.
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Most previous nuclear explosions have not produced significant black carbon emissions because they occurred in the U.S. Southwest desert, on small tropical islands, at high altitudes, or underground.88 K. Schaul, Eight Countries. 2,056 Nuclear Tests. 71 YearsMapped, The Washington Post, 9 September 2016; SIPRI Yearbook 2014: Armaments, Disarmament, and International Security (Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, 2014), 350.
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As a consequence of 5 Tg of black carbon being lofted into the stratosphere, solar radiation on land, atmospheric surface temperature, and rainfall would decrease globally and would likely result in a dramatic decrease in global agricultural production. Agricultural growing seasons could be reduced by 10 to 40 days per year for at least 5 years; global temperatures could be below normal for as long as 25 years; and immediate short-term temperatures could be colder than have occurred in the last 1,000 years.99 Toon et al., note 2.
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Precipitation could decrease by as much as 20% to 80% in the Asian monsoon region.1010 Black carbon emissions from fossil fuel and biomass burning have already been shown to decrease regional tropical rainfall from 1950 to 2002; Ramanathan and Carmichael, note 7.
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Large reductions in rainfall would occur in South America and southern Africa, and the American Southwest and Western Australia could be 20% to 60% drier. Climatic changes due to nuclear explosions on developed land could essentially produce a global nuclear drought, and the resulting famines could kill up to a billion people from starvation, which would probably most affect those communities that are already in food-insecure environments in the developing world, particularly in Sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia, and the Middle East.1111 Robock and Toon, note 2; J. D. Sachs, The Age of Sustainable Development (New York, NY: Columbia University Press, 2015).
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Significant changes in precipitation would probably also increase conflict in developing regions, although global temperature reductions may reduce social violence in the United States and other developed countries.12
And that's 100, 15 KT warheads, hitting urban areas, not the 60 warheads of 50+ KT that NK is believed to have.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)If someone used say 30 neutron bombs (no one officially has any but you never know for sure) they could disrupt trade worldwide by hitting the major shipping ports and it would not probably cause a nuclear winter but it could cause starvation because of the trade disruption.
Takket
(21,568 posts)Did they hear the pResident??? His brilliant leadership led to an agreement for NK to give up their nukes!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let freedom ring!!!!!!!!!!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)being the only country to detonate nuclear weapons over people. Had Iraq actually had nukes, we would not have invaded them.
Maybe if we hadnt bullied the world all these years, we wouldnt be in this situation.
Warmonger trump has made it worse. Any government not seeking similar weapons nowadays to protect themselves is failing their people.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)If Trump becomes a war-time President, I think I might look for a way out of here.
hlthe2b
(102,276 posts)shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)This kind of crap is used time and again to divert our tax funds into more ridiculous war expenditures. North Korea isn't going to nuke anybody - it's all about posturing and ensuring we don't invade. What a bunch of fools Americans are to fall for this crap and the media is front and center on these scare tactics. I do not lose a wink of sleep over being nuked by North Korea. I do fear our exceptional United States bombing the hell out of some poor country that poses zero threat to us. Just ask the Yemeni people how that whole spreading democracy is working out for them?
soryang
(3,299 posts)This story is nonsense.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)by Robert Scheer
"What "T.K."* meant was that, with a shovel, anyone can dig a fallout shelter--a simple hole in the ground with a door over the top and three feet of earth on top of that. "It's the dirt that does it," he said.
"It's the dirt that does it," he said ... "It's the dirt that does it," ... typical Republican "thinking" ...
*T. K. Jones, current (during Reagan's reign) Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering, Strategic and Theater Nuclear Forces, and a former Boeing manager.
meadowlander
(4,395 posts)Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)our children will be safe under their school desks.
mia
(8,360 posts)Trump is "Truly Terrifying".
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)bend over and kiss my butt goodbye.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)or sleeping with one eye open. They can have it.
NotASurfer
(2,150 posts)Nuking the 60 largest US cities might, in their alt-fact minds, qualify as an "improvement"
And a chance to score prime real estate at a discount