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appalachiablue

(41,171 posts)
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 07:49 PM Aug 2018

A Man Thought Female Drivers Are 'Incompetent'-- So He Shot Them, Police Say

Source: Washington Post

Nicholas Dagostino hated female drivers, authorities say, so much so that he shot them while they were driving.

Police in Texas linked Dagostino to two recent shootings in which women said they were shot in the arm. Both incidents happened in broad daylight, within a few miles of each other in the Katy area of Harris County, west of Houston. And both involved a suspect — Dagostino — who claimed he shot the women in self-defense, according to criminal complaints.

But social media ramblings indicate that Dagostino “held a very dim view of women,” believed female drivers are “incompetent,” and that their sole purpose “is to give birth to male children,” investigators wrote in court documents.

Dagostino, 29, is facing two felony charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. His defense attorney, Kenneth Mingledorff, said that statements police made about Dagostino’s hatred of women are merely assumptions.

“There’s a lot being said. Nobody knows that for a fact,” Mingledorff told The Washington Post on Saturday. “I’ve seen no evidence of that at all. A lot of assumptions are being made, and we’ll work through all that.”...More...



Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-man-thought-female-drivers-are-%e2%80%98incompetent%e2%80%99-%e2%80%94-so-he-shot-them-police-say/ar-BBMqrM1?ocid=HPCOMMDHP15



The defense attorney added that his client needs psychological help, though he did not elaborate. “We’re very sorry for the people involved,” Mingledorff said, referring to the injured women. “[Dagostino’s] family wants them to know that they’re concerned about them and we’re going to do what we can to make sure that this never happens again.”

July 10 was the most recent shooting, at a carwash in Katy, Texas. The victim told police that she was pulling into the carwash when she heard a noise and saw that her driver’s-side window was cracked. She assumed it had been hit by a rock, but she later saw blood dripping down her arm, court records say.
Surveillance footage showed a green Ford Explorer next to the woman’s car when she was shot. Police later found the vehicle’s owner, Dagostino who told police that he shot the woman because she swerved into his lane, and that he did so in self-defense, court records say.

Dagostino also admitted shooting at vehicles five other times in the past.



Nicholas Dagostino, Harris County Sheriff's Dept.
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A Man Thought Female Drivers Are 'Incompetent'-- So He Shot Them, Police Say (Original Post) appalachiablue Aug 2018 OP
The face of Trumpism. sandensea Aug 2018 #1
yay. guns. KG Aug 2018 #2
Why are mentally unstable people allowed to drive around with guns? oberliner Aug 2018 #3
another Incel loser JI7 Aug 2018 #4
He seems nice... uberblonde Aug 2018 #5
Thanks for the info., appalachiablue. Judi Lynn Aug 2018 #6
Thanks for more info. on this story Judi Lynn. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #12
We don't see a lot of stories like this one, thank god. Be thankful he hasn't killed anyone, yet. Judi Lynn Aug 2018 #24
Must be an illegal oswaldactedalone Aug 2018 #7
And he illegally voted for Hillary Takket Aug 2018 #21
This is a hate crime against women. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #8
He got $400,000 bail total, $200,000 per each victim. LisaL Aug 2018 #16
He shot at 7 women, and Huffpost says his bail was only $250k. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #25
Read the OP article. LisaL Aug 2018 #29
Read my link. Even if the OP's $400k bail figure is correct, it is ridiculous. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #31
Did I say he should be on a street? LisaL Aug 2018 #36
Do you think a $400k bail (if that is what it was) is appropriate here? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #38
Can you imagine if a woman had done this and held these views? appalachiablue Aug 2018 #23
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Aug 2018 #9
Your suggestions for people control is gun control. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #32
Not really... Sancho Aug 2018 #33
Yes, really. Gun control IS people control. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #35
You know, on the Alt-right, they think there is a conspiracy not to sleep with them... sfwriter Aug 2018 #10
That 1950s attitude is alive and well bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #11
If Trump had a son... edbermac Aug 2018 #13
He admitted he shot other times in the past...? Grins Aug 2018 #14
They had to catch him first. LisaL Aug 2018 #15
and that their sole purpose "is to give birth to male children," keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #17
The car was coming right at him.... McCamy Taylor Aug 2018 #18
But what's his immigration/citizenship status? dflprincess Aug 2018 #19
Don't call me "Surely!" dchill Aug 2018 #22
I'll bet he's popular around town. He sounds like an asshole incel loser. catbyte Aug 2018 #20
drumpfian unstable "genius". democratisphere Aug 2018 #26
You all do realize that when trump Doreen Aug 2018 #27
Is that wrong.. NOMOGOP Aug 2018 #28
Why, yes....he should have been charged with attempted murder. Lars39 Aug 2018 #30
Hopefully they will upgrade the charges. LisaL Aug 2018 #37
Absolutely, attempted murder and a hate crime at that. smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #39
Misogyny is alive and well. Stats show that women are better drivers, actually. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #34

Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
6. Thanks for the info., appalachiablue.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:24 PM
Aug 2018




Nicholas Dagostino, looking for a new woman to shoot.



Someone could get hurt, all right.



Man accused of shooting Katy mom has shot at other vehicles before, prosecutors say

. . .

That's when she realized she had been shot. The woman was hit by a single bullet through her upper arm. Doctors say it stopped millimeters from her heart.

. . .

The victim still has the bullet lodged in her chest. Doctors are expected to remove it in another few months.

In an interview with Eyewitness News, the young mother says she's in pain. Her 10-year-old daughter has to help her change bandages and put on deodorant.

More:
https://abc13.com/road-rage-man-confesses-he-opened-fire-on-at-least-6-drivers/3793019/

Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
24. We don't see a lot of stories like this one, thank god. Be thankful he hasn't killed anyone, yet.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:56 AM
Aug 2018

Last edited Sun Aug 26, 2018, 02:00 AM - Edit history (1)

That's probably because he's a lousey shot.

He has proven he's not fit to be back out on the street, although for sure, he probably will be, and soon.

SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
8. This is a hate crime against women.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:33 PM
Aug 2018

I can't believe they set his bail at only $250,000 bail after he shot all those women!






SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
25. He shot at 7 women, and Huffpost says his bail was only $250k.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 02:47 AM
Aug 2018
On March 7, D’Agostino allegedly shot a woman who was turning out of a gas station onto a feeder road. The unnamed woman said she only heard a loud noise and felt a pain in her arm; it wasn’t until later that she realized she had been shot. 

D’Agostino told local affiliate ABC 13 that his response was “self-defense,” alleging that the woman was swerving toward him, and did not apologize.

A July 10 incident was more serious. Another unnamed woman was driving to a car wash when D’Agostino allegedly shot her. The bullet from his .45-caliber handgun reportedly coming within millimeters of her heart.   

When he was arrested for that incident on July 20, authorities say he confessed to five other instances of road-rage shooting, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported. The March victim came forward after seeing reports of the arrest.

D’Agostino’s bail is now set at $250,000.

The Harris County Sheriff’s Office did not immediately return a request for comment Saturday.


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b81c408e4b07295151372ee

SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
31. Read my link. Even if the OP's $400k bail figure is correct, it is ridiculous.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:28 AM
Aug 2018

Even at $400k, he could make bail if he has property.

He shot at and almost killed at least 7 women by his own admission.

Dude should not be out on the streets. He is a mass shooter and terrorist.

appalachiablue

(41,171 posts)
23. Can you imagine if a woman had done this and held these views?
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:36 AM
Aug 2018

The part about only 'having female babies' would have put her away forever.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
9. People Control, Not Gun Control
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:35 PM
Aug 2018

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
33. Not really...
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 11:59 AM
Aug 2018

If there is also gun control that's ok with me, but "gun control" does not prevent dangerous people from possession of guns.

I consider gun control laws that specify or restrict certain designs like "automatic, or handguns".
I consider gun control restrictions of magazines or certain types of ammunition.
I consider gun control point-of-sale databases of guns by serial number or similar identification.
I consider gun control allowing (not restricting) lawsuits based on perceived flaws or dangerous products.

You get the idea...my suggestions license the person without any database of guns or mention of a particular design. You might require special training to possess a 50 cal machine gun, but the license only prevents the unqualified from ANY weapon.

Gun designs will always evolve (like the 3D plastic guns). The idea is to prevent dangerous people from EASY ACCESS to purchase and possession of guns of any type.

If you also want to require gun control alongside people control (serious licensing), then I say, "go for it"! A combination of both would reduce gun deaths significantly.

SunSeeker

(51,705 posts)
35. Yes, really. Gun control IS people control.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:12 PM
Aug 2018

The NRA has made "gun control" dirty words that people are afraid to utter, let alone admit to favoring. But gun control is just any measure that promotes gun safety, regardless of what you "consider" it to be, Sancho.

Your suggestion for licensing is definitely gun control, and I am all for it. If you want to call it people control, fine with me, if it will help us get such measures implemented.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
10. You know, on the Alt-right, they think there is a conspiracy not to sleep with them...
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:47 PM
Aug 2018

..when in reality, their unfuckability is manifest in their behavior and attitudes.

bucolic_frolic

(43,291 posts)
11. That 1950s attitude is alive and well
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:55 PM
Aug 2018

I knew a guy that had an expression that he used often to describe women who didn't know their place. It's dropped out of the lexicon, thankfully. But I can still hear it!

"Bitch on wheels!"

Originally said of women drivers, because, you know, they shouldn't drive!

Grins

(7,231 posts)
14. He admitted he shot other times in the past...?
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:06 PM
Aug 2018

Like FIVE times! And he wasn’t in prison?

Is this a Texas thing?

keithbvadu2

(36,914 posts)
17. and that their sole purpose "is to give birth to male children,"
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:36 PM
Aug 2018

and that their sole purpose "is to give birth to male children,"

Not much of a forward thinker for the perpetuation of the human race.

dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
19. But what's his immigration/citizenship status?
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 11:09 PM
Aug 2018

Surely an all-American guy like this wouldn't commit acts of violence against women!

catbyte

(34,453 posts)
20. I'll bet he's popular around town. He sounds like an asshole incel loser.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 11:28 PM
Aug 2018

The only date he can get is with his right hand, but blames women instead of his despicable, neanderthal attitudes towards women. Ugh.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
27. You all do realize that when trump
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:49 AM
Aug 2018

hears of this he will pardon him and give him a job with some title like "American women's affairs."

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
39. Absolutely, attempted murder and a hate crime at that.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 03:12 PM
Aug 2018

He was targeting women and was shooting to kill. The fact that he didn't was very fortunate for him and his victims.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Misogyny is alive and well. Stats show that women are better drivers, actually.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:03 PM
Aug 2018

But when you're looking at who makes mistakes when driving, I think that if you are looking for validation, you will see it.

If you see a bad driver, I think you notice and remember, if it's one of those you think as a group don't drive well. Blacks, women, whatever. If it's a white male, you don't notice his race or gender so much, and certainly don't remember it. You automatically chalk it up to the occasional mistake that all people make. You are inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. But if it's a black or a woman, you may think, "Oh...it's one of those. They can't drive worth a damn."

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