Benzi: "Listen, Carter, I know you are on the take. I'm know your [note to grammar police; Beglian Malinois commonly make this grammatical mistake] a dirty cop. I'm turning you in."

Office Carter: "Bad Dog, bad dog."

Benzi: "Grrrrrrrrr."

Officer Carter: Blamm-blamm.

Something had to trigger that dog if he was acting up and then turned on his partner like that. A well trained, well treated dog doesn't just flip on his human for no reason at all.

Totally wrong. These are serious dogs bred for serious work. It is not unheard of for a mal or shepherd to "climb the leash" back on it's handler. Such dogs are called "handler hard". Fuck up with one or catch him on a bad day, and you can get this.

You don't understand if you have never worked one. Not every dog is a little pound puppy. These are dogs on the edge and are bred this way. In this case, the breeding was not good. This is genetic.

First time something like this happened in CPD.

Google some videos of mals doing police work in Belgium. You can see a few handlers fuck up and get bit.

They are nervous, twitchy dogs, a bit neurotic. Send them late, get in their way, or frustrate them and you may very well find yourself on the end of a transfer aggressive bite.

Not the dog's fault.

That's not normal. I am not sure what is there to even argue about.

Argue with those of us who do???

Go on any board that does real types of work with mals and you will see that handler aggressive dogs are not uncommon and is a genetic trait common in some lines.

Rule of thumb is if Mom or Dad we're handler aggressive, the pups areore likely to have that issue. It's in some German shepherds too, there is one popular stud whose offspring seem to express this.

You obviously don't know this. I have done this stuff for 30 years. Why are YOU arguing? I'm sorry it doesn't fit your view of HOW THE WORLD SHOULD BE, but it's the truth.

It's not normal, and if it were a normal regular occurrence, presumably it wouldn't be on the news.

“not normal” & it might not be in terms of the K9 Officer have to shoot the dog but I would be willing to bet a ton of money it wasn’t the first time a K9 at CPD turned or bit its trainer/officer. It even happens on accident.

if this happens to 1 or 2 or 5 out of 100 dogs that does this kind of work, that's statistically predictable. And if it happens once per department that wouldn't seem outside the norm.

Dog had no history of aggression.

"“This was a malicious attack; it’s unheard of,” Cartwright said."
http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180904/columbus-police-officer-tried-to-subdue-dog-before-shooting

Genetics are everything in every breed. You're always walking a fine line on the desired outcome, especially in working dogs.

Leave the bloodlines and breeding to the experts.

Never knew this, so I learned something new today.

Amazing how arrogant some people get when talking about shit they know nothing about.

the cops in the K9 unit say it's very unusual?

And I have trained professionally for 30 years.

Do you want me to tell you what bloodlines have a lot of it?

I get so fucking tired of the "all how you raise them" crowd

I have never seen Victoria Still well train a REAL working dog with high drives.

Dog for several years had no history of aggression, then a severe attack on his trainer. That isn't normal.

You win. There are NO handler aggressive dogs. Michael Ellis is being. Drahthaar dogs is wrong. Lisa is right.

Better?

This was a dog who showed no aggression for several years, then attacked his trainer. Dog was well behaved in the past, there are stories about him apprehending suspects with no issues. Then he viciously attacked his trainer, and that is very strange.

Who just hit his prime, was feeling his oays, and did not particularly like being reprimanded that day?

5? 10?

Yet I get my hands on over 30 dogs a year, yet you argue with me. Why?

Grab a beer.

Insist they are right when you damned well know better? It's insulting.

What do you think. Again, grab a beer. How important is this?

They cannot give their "informed consent" about the risks of the job.

It's pure exploitation.

So are you arguing that we shouldn't have pets?

I actually support dogs doing rescue work, even though that has its hazards as well.

My problem with police work is that it is inherently aggressive in nature, which results in aggressive dogs.
Ultimately, training a dog to be aggressive is EXTREMELY hazardous to the dog. That crosses a moral line for me.

The training merely shapes the innate behavior. That bullshit "it's all in how you raise them" is just that... bullshit.

That said, moat of the dogs that com from these breeding's are indeed unsuitable as Peta.

It is morally reprehensible for us to make an animal vicious.

They live in very peaceful, cooperative groups.

a "peaceful, cooperative group" then I can agree with your statement.

The weakest member(s) of the pack, are often forced to leave and become lone wolves.

very rarely engage in random violence.

If we have bred them to do that, then that is on us and a perversion of their nature.

Wolf society is harsh, sure. All wild animals have to survive in a harsh world.
My point was that they have evolved to cooperate with each other under their leaders and form incredibly strong bonds.

he said they have to periodically assert their dominance over the dog. He sometimes had to do this while on patrol. He would get the dog in the back seat and lay on top of him - probably saying something. They need to be reminded routinely who is boss. Maybe this dog needed some reminders.

Sweetest dog I ever met (as long as he wasn't given "that command" ... kinda LOL but not really) although he was about the size of a bear.

My friend became a volunteer fireman & his doggie was right there with him, at every fire.

Very dicey to teach a dog to be aggressive and attack specific targets, and then expect the dog to cool off instantly. Most people can't do that. Why do we expect dogs will?

It all comes down to the trainer and handler-are they macho shirts on a power trip, or are they consistent in their demeanor? In the sport of schutzhund, that consistency is the key. My GSDs are trusted members of the family who could watch over the kids as well as any adult.

I have my doubts about the k9 officer in this story.

When they changed it from a breeding worthiness tests the Germans use to a sport, the dogs changed.

Most breeders who breed a litter for police work don't offer those pups to the general public.

Most schutzhund dogs are not capable of coming off the sleeve. To them, it's a game where they are fighting the sleeve, not the man. Serious protection dogs are rare and many suck a bit at schutzhund because they are not just sleeve oriented.

Even animals know ACAB.

If you fuck up the training, they WILL fuck you up.

The cop should have sucked it up, the big baby.He would have had no problem letting a "suspect" get the living shit bit out of his arms. The dog was doing what the dog was trained to do, be aggressive. Plus at 3&1/2 years old, that dog is still half puppy, was probably playing too hard and "Boo-Hoo Badgie" got mad and blasted the poor thing.

Even if the cop didn't shoot him, presumably dog would have to be euthanized. Obviously he can't be a police dog and he wouldn't be adoptable either, due to his aggressive behavior.

We all know animals do NOT attack the ones they know. An animal that is ABUSED will attack to protect themselves. This idiot cop went to far with his KILLER pet. I am not surprised about this situation. Giving someone a badge does NOT mean the person is GOOD. This is sad but true that some cops are MURDERS.

See above.

Sorry - not trying to be a jerk, but your assumption is incorrect. Certain breeds are more dangerous than others, and can turn on their owners (or anyone in the vicinity) in a second.

We like to humanize dogs, but they’re still animals at the end of the day. They still have animal instincts. Sometimes this is by no fault of the owner - certain breeds are prone to being set off, and require strong owners. Sometimes, it’s not by being abusive, but being too passive that owners create dangerous situations with certain breeds. I’m not saying that’s what happened here - I just wanted to point out the incorrect assumption that the dog must have been abused.

I have rescued beagles my whole life. Beagles can be babied. I would never rescue any variety of dog used as a police dog, as they would walk all over me, possibly creating a dangerous dynamic where I am no longer the owner. This can happen in an instant, where you are least expecting it. Beagles, on the other hand, will lick you to death, only figuratively!