Female doctors should be paid less because they 'do not work as hard,' male doctor says
Source: Washington Post
BY TAYLOR TELFORD
The Washington Post
September 02, 2018 05:38 PM
Updated 1 hour 52 minutes ago
A Plano, Texas, doctor sparked outrage after he told a medical publication that female physicians make less than men because they dont do not work as hard and prioritize something else ... family, social, whatever.
Medical professionals have since taken Gary Tigges to task on social media for views they say are discriminatory and disproved by most research. Some have criticized the Dallas Medical Journal for highlighting the remarks; others have praised the monthly magazine for exposing them.
The quote appeared in the Big and Bright Ideas section of the September edition of the Dallas Medical Journal as part of a feature asking industry professionals to share their thoughts and potential solutions to the gender pay gap in medicine.
Tigges contribution: Female physicians do not work as hard and do not see as many patients as male physicians ... This is because they choose to, or they simply dont want to be rushed, or they dont want to work the long hours.
Read more: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article217745045.html
Himself.
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)Women doctors should be paid more because they are more careful and spend more time with each patient.
Raw statistics are sometimes useless in adding to our enlightenment.
uberblonde
(1,215 posts)You got it!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)Some are just not into churn em and burn em medicine. And...gee whiz!...sometimes they may actually be able to diagnose correctly in those circumstances where one size doesn't fit all. Whodathunk?! With the added benefit of not viewing their patients as walking dollar signs.
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)I've ever had. She is married with two very young children, works as long as 72 hour shifts, and still finds time to ask questions, listen to patients, and give them her undivided attention. She is really smart and very thorough.
I've had doctors like this jerk. Someone else referred to him as a "churn and burn" doctor. They treat patients like they are on an assembly line, never actually seeing a person there. Their fast pace is often careless and dangerous, not particularly healing.
I hope this idiot's name and face are spread all over the Internet.
Chrysanthemum
(188 posts)...in family medicine who quit her original position in a "churn and burn' practice, because they objected to the amount of time she spent with patients.
She had the last laugh, though. She was hired by a Mayo Clinic Family Medicine practice and then also taught Family Medicine in the Mayo Clinic system.
I loved her so much and I was lucky that she was my doctor for many, many years. I still miss her a lot now that she finally retired.
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)are run like a Firestone dealership. Not only do they encourage doctors to see as many patients as possible in a given period of time, they also are expected to increase the bottom line with lots of add-ons, in the form of additional tests and procedures.
One newbie doctor charged me $7 to put a oximeter on my finger during an office visit. I had an oximeter in my purse! No one had ever charged me for that before or since, it is like charging you individually to take your temperature or weigh you. Too often they treat patients like consumers.
Good for your former doctor. Some people really go into medicine to be healers, not highly educated sales people.
I just rewatched an old movie from the nineties with William Hurt called The Doctor and it is as timely today as it was back then. Also I hadn't realized it was based on a true story.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)Poor men trying to keep up with the girls, and just can't manage as well.
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)... does this doctor have a brain ?
Is he a gynecologist ?
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)magicarpet
(14,155 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)volstork
(5,402 posts)What are you implying?
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..every single one of my health care providers are women. My dentist fixed a broken crown for me on a Sat morning and brought both her infant and toddler with her. Hubby entertained toddler and infant in carrier in the room with us. Lets see big mouth dr tiggs do that!
irisblue
(32,980 posts)dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Dr. Gary Tigges was born and raised in Bancroft, Iowa. He earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Exercise Physiology from the University of Iowa in 1988 and a Medical Degree from the University of Iowa College of Medicine in 1992. Dr. Tigges completed his internal medicine residency at the University of Texas-Houston in 1995. He started his private practice at Presbyterian Hospital of Plano in 1995 and founded Plano Internal Medicine in 1996.
Dr. Tigges is board-certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine.
Dr. Tigges has been very active in the medical leadership at Presbyterian Hospital of Plano. He has served on the Medical Board since 1999 and was elected by his peers as President of the Medical Staff in 2006. He has also served as Chairman of the Department of Medicine, the Bioethics Committee, the Peer Review Committee and currently chairs the Credentials Committee.
Dr. Tigges has served on councils for the Texas Medical Association and is a member of the Dallas County Medical Society.
Dr. Tigges community involvement includes previous board memberships of the Wellness Center of Plano and DIFFA Dallas. He currently serves as a board member for the Patrons of the Arts in the Vatican Museums and serves on the benefit committee for amfAR (American Foundation for AIDS Research). He is a member of Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Dallas. He has traveled on medical relief missions to such places as Haiti, Ecuador, and Zimbabwe.
Dr. Tigges hobbies include fitness, photography and world travel.
mainer
(12,022 posts)And that's why he thinks he "works harder" than his female colleagues. Because half his work is done for him by a woman.
Must be nice.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)and the attitude to go with it.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)Perhaps it's time to give women a chance? Sure couldn't be any worse! And might be quite a bit better!! Won't know unless we try and see...
qwlauren35
(6,148 posts)My sister was a doctor who hated being forced to see more patients and spend less time with them. If this guy thinks taking more pains to do a good job is a reason to be paid less...
I'm at a loss. This guy is seeing the bottom line. More patients, more money, bigger salary. If he is a bean counter, which he seems to be, then he does not value patient care or patient relationships.
What would probably make him see the light is if a woman doctor had a bigger practice, more patients, and more referrals, because she took better care of her patients.
But otherwise, I don't think he'll be swayed.
mainer
(12,022 posts)So he can find out about the truly long hours women physicians work every day because their husbands refuse to pitch in.
I worked as a doctor, married to a doctor. And after working an equal number of hours every day in the hospital, guess who cooked dinner every night? It sure wasn't hubby.
Luckily things changed.
Raven123
(4,849 posts)Could he be saying that male physicians rush patients through to see as many as possible and make more money than female physicians who spend more time with individual patients, listen to their concerns and throughtfully address them - a trait not valued by our current reimbursement system? As far as working the long hours, how about an evidence-based opinion.
Pity his patients, or should I say clients.
Igel
(35,320 posts)But studies of the pay gap consistently find a number of factors that lead to lower wages. Think of them as pluses or minuses, doesn't matter, because they lead to more or less money and it's money we're talking about.
However, the studies also consistently find that even after accounting for all the factors in some principled statistical way, there's still a wage gap. How wide depends on specialty. In fact, there's at least one specialization which women make more.
Doodley
(9,093 posts)catrose
(5,068 posts)But does he cite any evidence besides his opinion?
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)without really listening to them.
Sounds like he may treat the symptons and not the person.
jxla
(201 posts)I have heard from several trusted female physician colleagues who disagree with and are deeply hurt and offended by the comments I made to the Dallas Medical Journal regarding pay equity among female and male physicians.
I want to thank them for reaching out to me and sharing their concerns. I now understand more clearly how intricate this issue is and that there are ways we can work together to resolve these disparities.
I have worked closely with numerous female physicians for nearly three decades and have witnessed nothing but compassion, diligence and professionalism.
I sincerely apologize to all female physicians for my comments and the pain they have caused.
I also need to apologize to my partners and the staff at Plano Internal Medicine Associates, where we have an open and supportive work environment and where we do not tolerate discrimination based on gender, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation or religion.
Gary Tigges, MD
yardwork
(61,650 posts)He runs his own practice. His quote strongly implies that he pays female employees less because of his personal bias. He's at risk for a federal lawsuit.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)get it off your shoe. FUCK YOU Gary!
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)If I had not had her as my doctor, I would have been dead 3 years ago. She was the doctor who helped confirm a diagnosis for a fatal autoimmune disease, put together a specialist team, coordinated that team, and keeps a close eye on my lab reports. I don't know any male doctor that could have done more. She still tells me that her job is to continue to give me a long and healthy (as possible) life. I trust her implicitly, and will keep her as long as I can.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)For most, only a small percentage of a physicians pay actually depends on quality, including how patients perceive them say by spending more time talking to patients.
Thus, if a man in the same specialty as a woman, spends a lot of time taking off for golf, kids, or whatever, hes likely to make less than a woman who works more. Dont really have a problem with that, although I wish quality of care had more to do with reimbursement.
Obviously, there are other factors including who started the medical group, how its grown, whether physician is straight salary or a partner, etc. But the check that comes from Medicare or a commercial insurer for seeing a patient for a similar service, is the same whether performed by a male or female. Often that goes into compensation for physicians based upon productivity.
Docreed2003
(16,863 posts)So sick of misogynists in my profession...
Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)I'm not sure there's anybody in the field who works harder than they do, and I know you couldn't pay me enough to do that job.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)I should know, the bulk of my job is billing charges for hospitalists. I have one doc who has four separate billing codes because she works in four different areas of the hospital. Not only does she put in the hours, she beats the other doctors in the quality of her documentation, makes the fewest errors in her billing orders, and still stands out among the other doctors in her department for her rapport with patients. This guy can stuff it.
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Rebl2
(13,523 posts)I saw a male rheumatologist. There were times I would go for an appointment and would be there for 2 or more hours. When I switched to a new female dr in the practice, boy did things change-for the better. She really listened to me, tweaked my treatment (my arthritis got better) got me in and out in about an hour. Im still seeing her after 29 years. I found out later the male doctor would sometimes go into his office and sit and read while he still had patients waiting to see him.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Its good to be king.
Turbineguy
(37,343 posts)3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)Is he an Elvis impersonator on the side?
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Maybe he made it himself.
iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)doctors and deserve income equality. Are the dark ages here again - gah.
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)We always expect her appointment will run later than scheduled because the Dr. always sits and talks with us in detail for at least 15 minutes and she is doing the same I imagine for all her other patients. I've never been to a doctor that will take the time she does.
Perhaps that's why this guy thinks female doctors don't work - in general, most female physicians I've run across *always* spend time getting to know the issue, where men (in general, not always) ask a couple of questions and then leave everything else to the assistants. Quality over quantity.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)What normal person not singing in Vegas wears a suit like that?
dgibby
(9,474 posts)Nurses are going to make him wish he'd never been born. As a retired RN, I know this for a fact.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,042 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Fuck this asshole.
This man is an absolute fool. Women and men in every profession just work differently. Viva la difference!!!