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demmiblue

(36,893 posts) Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:05 AM Sep 2018

Hours before Kavanaugh nomination hearings, Bush lawyer releases 42,000 pages of documents to Judici

Source: WaPo

Hours before the start of hearings on Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, the lawyer for former president George W. Bush turned over 42,000 pages of documents from the nominee’s service in the Bush White House, angering Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer, who issued what is certain to be a futile call to delay the proceedings.

“Not a single senator will be able to review these records before tomorrow,” Schumer (D-N.Y.) tweeted Monday evening.

Taylor Foy, a spokesman for Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), responded that “our review team will be able to complete its examination of this latest batch in short order, before tomorrow’s hearing begins.” A few hours later, a tweet from the committee said that the “Majority staff has now completed its review of each and every one of these pages.”

The hearings are scheduled for 9:30 a.m. Tuesday, with opening statements by committee members. No information was released on the subject matter of the documents, and Bush’s lawyer asked that they be kept from the public, made available only to committee members and staff.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/03/hours-before-kavanaugh-nomination-hearings-bush-lawyer-releases-42000-pages-of-documents-to-judiciary-committee/?utm_term=.cee977ab33ad&tid=sm_tw&noredirect=on

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Hours before Kavanaugh nomination hearings, Bush lawyer releases 42,000 pages of documents to Judici (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2018 OP

This fraudulent conspiracy will last a long, long time and cast illegitimacy upon Kavanaugh as well bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #1

Doesn't matter. Once a justice is in, he's in. The country is changed forever, going forward. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #6

By current rules and the Constitution, yes bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #8

The American people have no say in the matter. It's the law. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #11

Justices can be impeached, and the process is identical to impeaching the President. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #15

Justices can be impeached, correct? forgotmylogin Sep 2018 #19

Pack the courts when democrats get power in 2020. 11 justices. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2018 #2

Yep DownriverDem Sep 2018 #4

Where does that end though? Jedi Guy Sep 2018 #12

The impact of packing decreases rapidly as size increases. Lucky Luciano Sep 2018 #21

Bet those suckers still smell like soap.... Maxheader Sep 2018 #3

Once Kavanaugh is seated .. ananda Sep 2018 #5

If the Dem politicians don't flood the media with appearances about the crooked activities.... Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #7

They won't, that's not what Democrats do bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #9

I will NOT be happy. I'll be disgusted, in fact. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #10

The dems haven't put up a real fight in over three decades. CrispyQ Sep 2018 #14

Unexpected? Roy Rolling Sep 2018 #13

Dem message needs to be "Kavanaugh is hiding dark, dirty secrets." lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #16

So, there are no procedural rules regarding a SC judicial appointment? world wide wally Sep 2018 #17

If he somehow gets seated, he needs to be impeached along with Gorsuch when we gain control. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #18

Ah - "Majority Staff has counted the pages and found they were all there". haele Sep 2018 #20

They need to send an intern out to break the air conditioner. MGKrebs Sep 2018 #22

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)

1. This fraudulent conspiracy will last a long, long time and cast illegitimacy upon Kavanaugh as well

Reply to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:42 AM

Sep 2018

as reverberate back on Gorsuch.

This theft must not stand over the long haul, and must not exonerate Trump from responsibility for his election activity in 2016.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

6. Doesn't matter. Once a justice is in, he's in. The country is changed forever, going forward. nt

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:42 AM

Sep 2018

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)

8. By current rules and the Constitution, yes

Reply to Honeycombe8 (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:50 AM

Sep 2018

what if a widespread fraudulent election and foreign influence corruption is proven?

Would the American people stand for it?

Would political parties find a way to root out the influence of the foreign government?

Would "forced" retirements send some packing?

Would some be removed?

You really have a dour outlook on many things, and you always quash much of what I post. Just saying

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

11. The American people have no say in the matter. It's the law.

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:58 AM

Sep 2018

There is probably a way to impeach a justice, but I don't see that happening, if the Justice hasn't committed one of the things required for impeachment.

Kavanaugh SHOULD be removed, now that we know Trump didn't really win, if that can be proved. But the government will NEVER tell us that, because they say it will create among the people a doubt about the results of our elections. And frankly, there's not really a way to prove that the election results are false.

MAYBE if he's shown to have conspired with the Russians to win, MAYBE that's enough to declare his Presidency fraudulent. Maybe. We don't know.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)

15. Justices can be impeached, and the process is identical to impeaching the President.

Reply to Honeycombe8 (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:45 AM

Sep 2018

If we take a big enough majority (not before 2020), we could potentially impeach them on grounds of illegitimacy.

Pretty big leap though.

forgotmylogin

(7,531 posts)

19. Justices can be impeached, correct?

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:53 AM

Sep 2018

If enough is proven about how RedDon didn't actually win the election and Dems get enough power, they should impeach both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh (if he gets seated.)

Lucky Luciano

(11,260 posts)

2. Pack the courts when democrats get power in 2020. 11 justices. nt

Reply to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:18 AM

Sep 2018

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)

4. Yep

Reply to Lucky Luciano (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:28 AM

Sep 2018

That will be the answer to this hold on the majority by the minority.

Jedi Guy

(3,254 posts)

12. Where does that end though?

Reply to Lucky Luciano (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:15 AM

Sep 2018

Next time the GOP has the majority, they'll pack the court until they have the majority again at 13 Justices, or 15 Justices. Turn and turn about, until eventually the SCOTUS has to have an auditorium built to house them.

Lucky Luciano

(11,260 posts)

21. The impact of packing decreases rapidly as size increases.

Reply to Jedi Guy (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:28 AM

Sep 2018

If it ever got to 17, it would be much less meaningful.

Each retirement would be less critical etc.

There is no constitutional mechanism for removing appointees that are illegitimate due to an illegitimate president. Packing is the only viable solution.

We gotta stop bringing tuna casseroles to gun fights (hat tip to whoever mentioned that earlier today on DU).

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)

3. Bet those suckers still smell like soap....

Reply to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:19 AM

Sep 2018

Scrubbed well...

ananda

(28,876 posts)

5. Once Kavanaugh is seated ..

Reply to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:30 AM

Sep 2018

.. I don't know how I'll be able to handle life!

Well, I knew it was coming, but still ...

this is a huge blow!!!!!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

7. If the Dem politicians don't flood the media with appearances about the crooked activities....

Reply to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:47 AM

Sep 2018

regarding Kavanaugh, I will NOT be happy.

If Schumer doesn't take to the airwaves, blasting the Republicans about this, I will NOT be happy.

If there aren't Dem ads for the mid-terms about this, I will NOT be happy.

At first I thought the Dems shouldn't show up for the confirmation hearing at all. But if they don't, there won't be anyone to point out Kavanaugh's negatives (to the extent that anyone knows about this mysterious person).

I'm most surprised that it was BUSH'S lawyer who did this. Bush, who was just as McCain's funeral talking all mushy gushy about abuse of power, honor & decency. I suppose it's possible that Bush's lawyer had been told not to produce those documents, but finally did it, anyway (some of the documents), or kept insisting until he got permission.

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)

9. They won't, that's not what Democrats do

Reply to Honeycombe8 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:52 AM

Sep 2018

Democrats are demure. They acquiesce. They are reasonable. They believe in rule of law, precedent, and courts of law. So old school.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

10. I will NOT be happy. I'll be disgusted, in fact.

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:55 AM

Sep 2018

I expect a fight...and I don't mean showing up at the hearing complaining to the guilty ones about the doc dump. They are laughing. I expect them to take it to the people, some of whom will care, but won't know if the Democrats don't take to the airwaves about this.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)

14. The dems haven't put up a real fight in over three decades.

Reply to Honeycombe8 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:43 AM

Sep 2018

It's partly why were in this mess.

Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)

13. Unexpected?

Reply to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:37 AM

Sep 2018

Why should Democrats be surprised at anything anymore?

They should have a strategy that is immune to such predictable moves by Republicans. They should have a strategy that repels such Republican tricks like a military tank repels arrows.

Today should be the start of that predictable legislative battle. Being caught off-guard on day one would not be an auspicious omen. C'mon, Democrats, show them what you've got!