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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:17 PM Sep 2018

NY Times publishes anonymous op-ed from Trump official working to 'thwart' his 'worst inclinations'

Source: The Hill

The New York Times on Wednesday published an anonymous op-ed written by an author who claimed to be one of a number of Trump administration officials working to “thwart” President Trump’s “worst inclinations.”

In the piece, titled, “I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration,” the author says that while officials “want the administration to succeed,” they have had to work against Trump’s “misguided impulses” and parts of his agenda.

"To be clear, ours is not the popular 'resistance' of the left," the piece reads. "We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous."

“But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic,” the unidentified official wrote.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/405226-ny-times-publishes-op-ed-claiming-to-be-written-by-senior-trump-official




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NY Times publishes anonymous op-ed from Trump official working to 'thwart' his 'worst inclinations' (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2018 OP
Typical Nazis Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #1
Exactly, since this is likely Pence and his agenda involves the imprisonment, deportation Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #51
This is bad. irisblue Sep 2018 #2
OMG. n/t pnwmom Sep 2018 #3
Fucking self serving cowards! redwitch Sep 2018 #4
Uh...his policies are horrible for the country n/t hibbing Sep 2018 #5
Who? "senior official" Mattis? Mnuchin? Snellius Sep 2018 #6
I can guess, I've read some quotes that sound a lot like that op-ed... haele Sep 2018 #10
They're looking to replace Mattis. Snellius Sep 2018 #18
I suspect Pence. Granny M Sep 2018 #17
Can Pence construct a coherent sentence? Snellius Sep 2018 #19
He's probably capable of writing that article. Granny M Sep 2018 #31
Pence was my first suspect. He's duplicitous and slimy enough. mulsh Sep 2018 #36
Should be on-line betting on who...my money on who would most benefit from Shitler falling? Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #63
My money's on Pompeo DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #39
Sounds like a good guess PatSeg Sep 2018 #47
I'm betting Dan Coats. vsrazdem Sep 2018 #56
Oh yes PatSeg Sep 2018 #57
It is very short. No examples given, just claims he/she is trying to do good. Almost a tease. riversedge Sep 2018 #7
It wasn't that short BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #13
my computer has been refusing to close down ads. I will go back and see what I missed. riversedge Sep 2018 #15
I don't know if it's because I'm a subscriber BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #23
lucky you. I get beat up with ads. Anyway, I am going to read a few of the comments. thanks riversedge Sep 2018 #29
You are right. I missed quite a bit--I put it into a reader. Thanks. More informative than I thought riversedge Sep 2018 #16
If it lets you look at the comments to the editorial BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #24
Twitter Historians posting irisblue Sep 2018 #8
Well, a lot of people thought Rommel was the "Good Nazi". But he was still a Nazi. haele Sep 2018 #14
excellent response!!! handmade34 Sep 2018 #30
Another Twitter Historian irisblue Sep 2018 #43
Oh, to be a fly on the wall... llmart Sep 2018 #9
I saw a breaking news on this earlier this afternoon BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #11
duty to the country, huh? Astraea Sep 2018 #12
What a crock of shit maxrandb Sep 2018 #22
The shit lillypaddle Sep 2018 #20
It's a Witch Hunt for an internal Witch Hunt now bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #21
Reader comments are better than the original article. nt wiggs Sep 2018 #25
I posted about that too BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #32
Rachel's show should be good tonight. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #26
Could be a false flag LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #27
Yes - they fancy themselves the "wranglers" in a rodeo trying to keep a wild stallion in bounds BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #35
I tend to agree. It's a pro-republican party statement and they are keeping Trump around to push chowder66 Sep 2018 #42
Sounds like a new Republican trick to get votes in the mid-terms. chowder66 Sep 2018 #28
Ah..ah..ahchoo! Solly Mack Sep 2018 #33
"There are bright spots... handmade34 Sep 2018 #34
I can agree with this tweet irisblue Sep 2018 #37
An excellent find DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #45
Who will be the FIRST.... SayItLoud Sep 2018 #38
Here's the money quote DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #40
Unelected assholes. Corgigal Sep 2018 #44
Yep irisblue Sep 2018 #55
BING! tenderfoot Sep 2018 #60
Duty to our country? EarthFirst Sep 2018 #41
The timing is interesting NastyRiffraff Sep 2018 #46
I'm glad others are seeing this for the bullcrap it is The Liberal Lion Sep 2018 #48
"But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner randr Sep 2018 #49
There must be 50 ways to be a traitor. dchill Sep 2018 #50
"Don't vote for Democrats. We can handle him!" dalton99a Sep 2018 #52
Wish this OP Ed was published in the WSJ first vs NYT. SayItLoud Sep 2018 #53
It's Jared OKNancy Sep 2018 #54
Sorry, don't buy it. aquamarina Sep 2018 #58
How do they prove it came from someone in the WH? treestar Sep 2018 #59
The N.Y. Times wrote that the author is known to them as a senior White House official Auggie Sep 2018 #61
A lot of trust is involved I guess. The anonymous official could give this letter out, let wiggs Sep 2018 #64
Oh well. I feel so much better now. n/t gldstwmn Sep 2018 #62
DU IS RIGHT. FUCK THIS GUY. ancianita Sep 2018 #65
Good Twitter response to tRump's firey reactions... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #66

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
51. Exactly, since this is likely Pence and his agenda involves the imprisonment, deportation
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:13 PM
Sep 2018

or death of most non white humans, no str8t humans, etc.

irisblue

(32,996 posts)
2. This is bad.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:20 PM
Sep 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html



Definition of coup d'état. plural coups d'état or coups d'etat ˌkü-(ˌ dā-ˈtä, ˈkü-(ˌ dā-ˌtä, -də- : a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics; especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group. Merriam Webster.com

I am honestly godsmacked

redwitch

(14,945 posts)
4. Fucking self serving cowards!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:22 PM
Sep 2018

Do the right thing and work through legal channels to have him removed. This is absolutely crazy!

haele

(12,661 posts)
10. I can guess, I've read some quotes that sound a lot like that op-ed...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:31 PM
Sep 2018

However, it's still just a guess, and he's already in Woodward's book, so he's probably on the way out.

Haele

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
18. They're looking to replace Mattis.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:46 PM
Sep 2018

And the prime example given in op-ed concerned relations with Russia.

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
31. He's probably capable of writing that article.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:08 PM
Sep 2018

He's very ambitious, and is convinced that God wants him to be president. Christian Taliban, waiting in the wings. He's clever enough to hide his tracks, though.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
63. Should be on-line betting on who...my money on who would most benefit from Shitler falling?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 07:22 PM
Sep 2018

Pence and the scheming evangelicals popped up instantly.

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
47. Sounds like a good guess
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:46 PM
Sep 2018

Pompeo, Mattis, or Kelly. I don't think it would be Pence, as he could be part of the Mueller investigation.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
56. I'm betting Dan Coats.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:34 PM
Sep 2018

I just keep picturing that interview he was giving when they told him Trump invited Russia to the White House, and his reaction.

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
57. Oh yes
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:37 PM
Sep 2018

I'd forgotten about him. He seemed seriously disturbed about Trump's attitude towards Putin and Russia.

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
7. It is very short. No examples given, just claims he/she is trying to do good. Almost a tease.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:29 PM
Sep 2018

I am not impressed.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
23. I don't know if it's because I'm a subscriber
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:56 PM
Sep 2018

but the space where the ad would be just says "Advertisement" in white blocks between sections of the editorial. And I have both ublock Origin and Ghostery off!

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
16. You are right. I missed quite a bit--I put it into a reader. Thanks. More informative than I thought
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:40 PM
Sep 2018

edit to add:


This person needs to make her/him self known. Her job will be gone but maybe it will give some courage to others to speak up.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
24. If it lets you look at the comments to the editorial
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:57 PM
Sep 2018

they are pretty fascinating (in a good way - at least the last time I checked)!

irisblue

(32,996 posts)
8. Twitter Historians posting
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:30 PM
Sep 2018

Kevin Gannon (@TheTattooedProf) Tweeted:
This person is still a collaborator, not some heroic figure on the inside. They can try to ease their conscience with an anonymous platitude-filled essay, but they are still complicit in everything this administration has wrought. (1/3) https://t.co/numdaCti2s



Kevin Gannon (@TheTattooedProf) Tweeted:
If they wanted to, they and others like them could have Trump out tomorrow. They could go to Mueller, do an interview, take the lid off the whole pot. If it's as bad so they say, then anonymous half-measures are no remedy at all. They just let the problem fester (2/3)

Kevin Gannon (@TheTattooedProf) Tweeted:
They, and the rest of the GOP, have traded our democracy for the power to pack the courts and gut the New Deal. This is no principled stand by some heroic, selfless stalwart. It's the pitiful, post-hoc rationale of a sniveling coward who knows their time is almost done. (3/3)








haele

(12,661 posts)
14. Well, a lot of people thought Rommel was the "Good Nazi". But he was still a Nazi.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018

and not just because he was in the military, either. He stayed on, played along with Nazi party politics, and rose through the ranks. More than a few respectable career German officers left Germany - or held true to their beliefs and got violently purged in the mid/early 30's when the long knives started coming out - rather than sign on to Hitler's loyal corps.

Haele

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
30. excellent response!!!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:07 PM
Sep 2018

this anonymous letter does not make me feel better... it makes me even more angry

irisblue

(32,996 posts)
43. Another Twitter Historian
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:31 PM
Sep 2018

Dr. L.D. Burnett (@LDBurnett) Tweeted:
This isn't "an important perspective"--this is a statement that administrators in the Executive Branch have staged a coup against the sitting President. If they find him unfit to lead, they need to invoke the 25th Amendment. They don't get to decide to be a shadow government https://t.co/xd8FdY6KEi





This gets worse& worse

llmart

(15,542 posts)
9. Oh, to be a fly on the wall...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:31 PM
Sep 2018

in the White House as trump runs around crazed looking for leakers and the leakers run amok trying to outdo one another to keep him under control.

Too bad our country and form of government and standing in the world is affected by all this.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
11. I saw a breaking news on this earlier this afternoon
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:32 PM
Sep 2018

but wasn't sure whether I could post news about it here.

Whoever wrote it wants to have it both ways and the comments that were left at the piece pretty much echo that thought.

Here's an excerpt -

Opinion
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader. It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall. The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. I would know. I am one of them.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making. Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright. In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more. But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous. But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic. That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

<...>

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html


In essence, they want their cake and eat it too and once they have everything - which includes the SCOTUS nominee - they will discard him. Thing is, he is messing up their trade deals at the moment and Congress seems completely frozen in place to act on correcting that mess.

Astraea

(468 posts)
12. duty to the country, huh?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:32 PM
Sep 2018

If you republican rats really gave a shit, this man would not be holding office today. You're all enablers.

maxrandb

(15,336 posts)
22. What a crock of shit
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:56 PM
Sep 2018

Dear anonymous source...go fuck yourself sideways with a First Edition hard cover copy of Atlas Shrugged you worthless piece of amphibian shit!

Just fuck you and your; "sure the president's a raving fucking amoral, cruel, petty evil prick but hey! how about that fucking 1.5 trillion dollars giveaway to the American oligarchs and the coal ash and arcenic in your drinking water"

"Hey! I helped save you fucking progs from nuclear winter, but have you fucking seen judge Kavanaugh? He's going to fuck over working people and women for 40 fucking years... you're welcome!"

Fuck this anonymous jackass and his gaslighting bullshit.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
26. Rachel's show should be good tonight.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sep 2018

She was on Nicole Wallace's show on the phone and she was shocked by this.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
27. Could be a false flag
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sep 2018

Put out in order for Trump to go full def con on all White House staff using "national security" as his excuse.

What tips me off is there was no need to say:

"There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more."

"effective deregulation"? How?
"historic tax reform"? For who?
"a more robust military" Why the need?

Its like they wanted their cake and eat it too. Use this false flag to implement mass firings and hiring of Trump cultists, but still get a little advertisement in there as well. Mix in a little pro-Trump 2020 talking points. Just to make them seem even nuttier. ie....that Trump is doing a great job on multiple fronts, but this nut wants to sabotage the whole thing for his own personal grudges he has overblown in his head.

Put out to cement the narrative of the terrible and dare I say treasonous behaviour of a LEAKER for his deplorables to get more angry about, and defend their poor betrayed and persecuted Dear Leader.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
35. Yes - they fancy themselves the "wranglers" in a rodeo trying to keep a wild stallion in bounds
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:16 PM
Sep 2018

while signalling to their "crowd" to just hang in there because "they got this" and their show will go on.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
42. I tend to agree. It's a pro-republican party statement and they are keeping Trump around to push
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:29 PM
Sep 2018

their agenda through and garner votes in the midterms. They may not like some of the stuff he does but they
aren't stopping him from destroying our reputation around the world.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
28. Sounds like a new Republican trick to get votes in the mid-terms.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:04 PM
Sep 2018

..effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military


There will be those that think... Oh, these republicans are protecting us.
Then there will be those that think.... these republicans are the deep state and undermining the Potus.

Both are reasons to vote.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
34. "There are bright spots...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:13 PM
Sep 2018

….that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more..."


fuck you anonymous source... these are not bright spots for the majority of U.S. Americans... you are just complicit is making our Nation worse off... you are merely trying to justify your exploitation of a failed election to get your dangerous agenda passed

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
38. Who will be the FIRST....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:17 PM
Sep 2018

Member of the administration to put country before party and policy and go ON THE RECORD with an OP ED, or interview?

That person will be believed and denials from the Oral Office will hold little value or validity. She or he will also become a national hero.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
40. Here's the money quote
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:24 PM
Sep 2018
To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.


Translation: We love right wing conservative policies. We thought we had a compliant president, but we have a crazy person instead. Please help us get rid of him so we can have Mike Pence sign all our wet dreams legislation.

tenderfoot

(8,437 posts)
60. BING!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:42 PM
Sep 2018

There's another dumbass quote:

"Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more."



This is bullshit.

EarthFirst

(2,901 posts)
41. Duty to our country?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:25 PM
Sep 2018

Is that how we ended up with Kavanaugh?

The ‘resistance’?

Gee; thanks for your service!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
46. The timing is interesting
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:42 PM
Sep 2018

This is published less than a week before Bob Woodward's book Fear comes out, and a day after several excerpts from that book are published. It tells me that a) the author is one of Woodward's sources, and b) it makes it more likely than ever that the damning interviews and comments in Fear are authentic.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
48. I'm glad others are seeing this for the bullcrap it is
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:49 PM
Sep 2018

When I read this in the NYT I almost puked in my mouth when I saw they DARED to apply the term "Resistance" to themselves. I saw this anonymous confession for what it is: a undignified attempt to sanitize the GOP from the responsibility it has bringing what they themselves call a "amoral" monster into the White House. The worse part about it, THEY KNOW trump HAD RUSSIAN ASSISTANCE IN "WINNING". I used all caps because the Op-Ed made me that pissed.

That all being said, this is certainly a scathing indictment of that orange moron.

randr

(12,412 posts)
49. "But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:50 PM
Sep 2018

that is detrimental to the health of our republic,”
If this were true they have a responsibility to remove the treat to our nation.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
54. It's Jared
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:25 PM
Sep 2018

LOL someone higher up, someone who wants to protect their reputation down the line. Yep it’s Jared. Oh and precipitated by McCain’s funeral.

 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
58. Sorry, don't buy it.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:37 PM
Sep 2018

After reading this oped, it strikes me that this is a continuation of the republican policy of party before country. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful that there are actual adults in the White House who have kept T from starting WWIII. However, none of these people are elected officials and therefore all of them are acting outside of the Constitution.

As for the oped, I found these lines particularly insulting,

"The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump had done to the predicency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility."

What a load of hogwash. Republicans and Trump supporters have done this to our country. Elected democrats and and other Trump opponetns have been sounding the alarm for years. However, as republicans hold all the levers of power, only they have the ability to stop him. And as far as I can tell have done NOTHING to do so. The most obvious thing they could do now is to put a halt to any Supreme Court appointment until Mueller has completed his report but they won't even do that. So cry me a river. If the adults in the West Wing actually REALLY cared for the well being of the USA they would all come forward and if the adults in Congress really cared for the well being the the USA, they would hold hearings and put a stop to it. Since they haven't and won't, then this clusterfuck is theirs and theirs alone.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
64. A lot of trust is involved I guess. The anonymous official could give this letter out, let
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 09:24 PM
Sep 2018

the NYT publish, then deny in an effort to discredit the NYT and the 'fake news' in general. I've thought for a long time that journalists have to be super careful because we know there is no bottom to how low the WH will go...forgeries, fake op eds, lying press secretaries, lies about statistics....they will do whatever it takes to get over. (the previous gop WH did this too...but not to this level).

I hope the NYT was careful.



KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
66. Good Twitter response to tRump's firey reactions...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:31 AM
Sep 2018


Kile Griffin:
Trump reacted to the NYT column with "volcanic" anger and was "absolutely livid" over what he considered a treasonous act of disloyalty, WaPo reports.

He told confidants he suspects the official works on national security issues or in the Justice Dept.https://www.

safe@second:
Can relate. I too exploded in volcanic anger & overwhelming need to find culprit when read in NYT about children separated from parents at border, "good people on both sides" of white supremacist murder in Charlottesville and what POTUS thinks is god-given right to grab my pussy


Someone else asked what color Trump turns when he's livid and the response was "PLAID"........
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